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Okay there's two things on lilwade that are worth mentioning within lilwade's very limited filter
1) This post:On August 29 2014 01:45 lilwade wrote:
HolyFlare I was in the midst of making a campaign but I decided I knew little about day one cell tactics so I decided against it. I wanted to see also how cells are chosen or educated guessing about the order. It looks like you need to get on board with womens right as well.
This one is a weak scumtell in my book. He says he was in the midst of making a campaign but decided against it once he reflected upon it. Now I do realize that it's possible for this to come from a townie but I'd say it's more likely to come from a mafia as townies tend to completly misinterpret their own situation/towniness.
A townie doesn't give a fuck in the world about how he looks, especially early on. Not because he doesn't give a fuck but because he thinks it's all fine and he's the beacon of towniness anyways and everyone in the game probably realized that already.
That's why we get so many convoluted, stupid plans that somehow are supposed to help but in reality just crash and burn sending town into a 24+hours discussion on wether the guy who thought of it is just stupid or trying to set a chaotic environment. Those things tend to come from townies in my experience BECAUSE those people actually think their plan might help because their self-assessment is completly off the mark, completly ignoring some super obvious flaw because + Show Spoiler +.
That in return comes down to people being confident to some degree and again to the thought that they're just fine because beacon of townieness yalaya.
Conclusion about above post and what I'm trying to tell you:
1) I don't think a townie would be this unselfconscious. I think a townie would be getting in here with confidence not being afraid of what he's posting.
2) Note that he said he was in the midst of making a campaign and realized that it would be stupid.
READ: after already putting in some effort he realized he has no idea what he's writing about. That's the wrong order of events...
He should be thinking of some grand idea and once he got an idea what he wants to achieve he THEN should continue to think about a campaign.
He was in the midst of making a campaign for the sake of making a campaign and nothing else.
As a comparison, you could say that I was having my fair share of fun for shitz and giggles in the first cycle as well but I really wanted to be in the last cycle and I honestly tried to achieve that.
2) These two posts in conjunction:
On August 31 2014 07:49 lilwade wrote:
@Amiko Im not sure now Blazing hand brought a case against 27ninja and if he was the mafia id be more inclined to think Apathy is scum. Also to note that Apathy voted on bat and not blazing. What about you? On September 01 2014 09:56 lilwade wrote:
This day is super easy I had scum read on 27 bunnies like 30 seconds into day 1
And so did apathy...
voting 27ninjabunnies.
The first quote by itself is no problem whatsoever. Right after the lynch he rethinks the situation and thinks about what it might mean. Completly reasonable to stop for a second and think "wait, if BH WAS mafia and he thought bunnies is mafia maybe bunnies isn't mafia after all". No problem here. Problem arrives with the second post that completly ignores that, he proceeds to say easiest day ever without a care in the world and wants to lynch bunnies like nothing happened.
I'm not putting those posts in the wrong order. They actually happened in that order. This guy needs lynching.
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I caught people slipping 30 days into day1, went afk because "duh, guy slipped, see you in 48 hours", ended up being correct and almost mislynched on d2 because noone believed me 
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*30 days into day1 = 30 seconds into day1, though really it was more like 2 hours
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On September 02 2014 02:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:Now to PA His filter is a bit longer. 6 pages to be exact. I commend you for your activity. Some things I have a problem with, why did he want our group to go last? He makes jokes about it, says it's because he creates a shitstorm and needs more time to defend himself (you can find that post here- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=15#286) but it actually seemed like he's been doing completely opposite this game. Townie points? I also want to know if the below is where he stands still On August 29 2014 07:50 Professor Apathy wrote:On August 29 2014 07:47 marvellosity wrote:
BH/HF/your mum/Amiko/lilwade best guess so far.
just so people can quiz me in a really annoying fashion later if/when i change my mind. I kind of agree A) BH B) Holy C) idk D) probably your mum but that's a gut read E) ninjabunnies As of now, reading through PA's filter, he seems the most town. He's active, questioning, and looking to try and figure out the game. The only thing that throws me off is how active he was about being mayor, and wanting our group to go last. Idc that he wanted us to go last, but his reasoning that "he would need more time to defend himself" is super scummy. I'm not going to vote yet, because I do want to hear responses to these thoughts
why? given what you've said, your vote should be on lilwade.
the reasoning wasn't "I need more time to defend myself". The reason was "I tend to ragequit when I'm annoyed and can get away with it. If I'm in last Cell I can't get away with it".
group A: I still think BH was mafia (now that I know bats wasn't)
group B: I don't think Holy is mafia. Not as certain on his towniness as on WoS but I would have pushed Holy had I thought he's mafia to make sure noone listens to him
group C: I'm actually still not sure about for various reasons I don't feel like going into
group D: damdred looks somewhat okay. Yeah I'd probably still go for your mum
group E: I'm obviously voting lilwade right now
@Marv/WoS
On August 28 2014 07:03 Professor Apathy wrote:
Fear not for I am town an will murder all of mafia.
Vote me and I will organize the groups in such a way that hilarity and entertainement will be guaranteed!
##vote Professor Apathy for mighty powers
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On September 02 2014 02:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Actually, please go into why you are not sure on group C.
mostly stupid set-up speculation that I can't not think about despite thinking Marv and HF are about equally likely to be town.
Marv gets the bonus of having wanted BH dead yesterday.
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On September 02 2014 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:On September 02 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote:it does? how come babe? because once you get modkilled from a game (and i know he was around and still got modkilled from newbie) you can focus on the other one. He's not posted any reason to afk, he just comes back in to settle the people against him with a vote and back to lurking again. I'd expect if he was town he'd just be like "sorry i was mafia in another game and more interested in winning there" and then post some kind of basic analysis or anything or say he's reading but the maintained lurk while present means he's literally just avoiding posting on purpose Sometimes I find that there is a massive disconnect with you between what you expect people to do and what actually happens in reality. I honestly don't really think I can come up with any particular narrative that makes sense to me realistically---half the time when people lurk and/or don't play the game it's for no particular reason at all and based on his earlier posting I feel like this is most likely the case. Non-alignment indicative.
agree. When HF posted the innitial statement I actually thought he meant mafia as in the game of mafia and not the alignment.
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On September 02 2014 02:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 02 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:On September 02 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote:it does? how come babe? because once you get modkilled from a game (and i know he was around and still got modkilled from newbie) you can focus on the other one. He's not posted any reason to afk, he just comes back in to settle the people against him with a vote and back to lurking again. I'd expect if he was town he'd just be like "sorry i was mafia in another game and more interested in winning there" and then post some kind of basic analysis or anything or say he's reading but the maintained lurk while present means he's literally just avoiding posting on purpose Sometimes I find that there is a massive disconnect with you between what you expect people to do and what actually happens in reality. I honestly don't really think I can come up with any particular narrative that makes sense to me realistically---half the time when people lurk and/or don't play the game it's for no particular reason at all and based on his earlier posting I feel like this is most likely the case. Non-alignment indicative. i really don't think so... let's say he's mafia in both games, in one game he puts all his effort into it but he lurks/posts some analysis because hes invested in that one but he clearly hasn't read this one at all so only comes back to appease people with nothingness and a vote to not get modkilled he is quite literally (and I know this for a fact) present a lot of the time but not posting here at all and didn't post in the newbie despite being here. Who does that? Mafia does that because they want to hide and not do anything. Now let's say he's town here and invested in one game as mafia but not the town one, why would he be present but still hiding? Why would he not just post anything about being busy or invested in the other game? Why hide everything and just return to stop yourself getting modkilled when your name is called out? He's dead in that game so at least he has no reason to hide here at all?
after being modkilled? embarrassment
before being modkilled? no talking about other games, he's a new guy if he's in a newb-game, right?
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Just as an example, you could easily use the same thing on lilwade and make an argument how it's more likely he's town for that reason:
Mafias tend to talk to each other during a game. As such the idea to abandon is a lot more personal towards the people on your team you're in a chat with. Abandoning a game you're playing in a team without knowing who your teammates are or being in direct contact with them on the other hand makes it easier to not feel bad about it.
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I'd feel a lot better about voting lilwade if there weren't so many shady people voting him
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On September 02 2014 03:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Where is fake holyflare?
His totality of D2 posting has been absolutely horrible, mostly basing his apparent current dump vote on bunnies on weird meta shit. Did no one else pick up on this?
I did when I just looked up the Cells when bunny asked me wether my reads changed and thought about the same...
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On September 01 2014 09:56 lilwade wrote:
This day is super easy I had scum read on 27 bunnies like 30 seconds into day 1
And so did apathy...
voting 27ninjabunnies.
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On September 02 2014 05:06 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:33 Professor Apathy wrote:
Just as an example, you could easily use the same thing on lilwade and make an argument how it's more likely he's town for that reason:
Mafias tend to talk to each other during a game. As such the idea to abandon is a lot more personal towards the people on your team you're in a chat with. Abandoning a game you're playing in a team without knowing who your teammates are or being in direct contact with them on the other hand makes it easier to not feel bad about it. not necessarily true at all toady.
I know, I'm just saying you could easily make an argument for it both ways depending on how you look at it without being able to tell which one it is.
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are you austin? Is austin still playing? I haven't played in a while
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or slam, but slam is banned as far as I know
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and he posts completly differently
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fuck this guy. I want to kill of bunnies just because that post and how I think this has got to be mysterymeat being mafia and setting himself up ....
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Here goes hoping I don't look like a fool posting this yelling "DAMN IT" in 5 minutes
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Half of those were formulated (the text, not the numbers) today because I was a lazy bum. Also I didn't indicate at what comment happened at what time, so for example when I had "gutread" on WoS he was only at +1 and not at +7
Changed dead people to something in the -1000's to not have to delete them while still have them seperated.
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