Here's my M/B/K and where I'm starting from d2.

To be declared a union under holy matrimony

Banks - The most espoused in town. His vote critical to the lynch. The only way he's mafia is if he's trying to solo the game. (Sure I wouldn't rule it out)

Make you breakfast

Teemu - 666's case on you makes no sense if you're mafia. Post some reads yourself instead of only arguing what others have posted.

Tolkien - Just another face in the crowd. I would lean town, but I feel it's too early. You've been bumped up for landing the hammer vote.

Just one dance

Jenny - I still feel pretty safe around you but not as much on before. I think your analysis is usually good but it was lacking at the end of d1. If you thought DC was scum you didn't try to argue it.

GB - I think you should be focusing on who's in your town circle before I put you in mine. You're playing a bit inconsistent and when you are serious it seems too serious and mafia contrived.

lilwade - I was a bit cautious on reading you d1. Also you were able to go under the radar for the most part. I think we should get to know each other a little better.

Leave you in a ditch

cya -

On August 01 2014 12:31 Seeyalater wrote:

Meatpudding- I'm going to stick to my guns on MP, mainly because I still don't like his push on Teemu last night. I feel like, he would almost have to be donkey mafia to continue to try to save his mafia partner even though Clockwork had basically dug his own grave and thrown himself in it, but at the same time, how could he not see the logic between the clockwork push? He was also one like Clockwork, who seemed to dissapear out of nowhere in the last few hours, unlike everyone else who always let everyone know when they will be heading off.

If there was logic behind the clockwork push, I didn't see it. You were there before I dropped off, so anyone had the chance to argue but you didn't. You pushed no case for Numbers Guy and then try and switch focus after the flip. Scum I say.

On July 31 2014 18:17 Seeyalater wrote:
Man, this vote is hard. I honestly can't say I'm a fan of either Clockwork or Meat, but who to hammer before bed.

meatpudding

Australia520 Posts

August 01 2014 13:24 GMT

#948

On August 01 2014 22:10 Teemursu wrote:
Also, Haru should be modkilled for editing a post.

Haru can;t be modelled, he's a cop.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

August 01 2014 13:27 GMT

#949

On August 01 2014 17:33 Teemursu wrote:
GB, I have a couple of questions for you.

You said that meatie had at least defended himself and 666 kinda left off after leaving his vote on meat, which was the reason you switched your vote from meat to 666.

1) How do you think meat defended himself? Well or badly? Which posts of his defense convinced you to change your vote?

2) Why didn't you vote on 666 earlier? The reasons you gave happened way before the very close of EOD (meaty started lurking again and THEN you give the reason of him "at least defending himself"), and yet you were flipfloppy about meaty/666 before Tolkien hammered 666, which you then followed up with your "hammer" vote.

What I'm suspicious of is that you actually voted on your mafia partner when it was still too late to get meaty miss lynched and that's why you kinda gave a weakish town read/flip-flop on meatypie.

1) badly, but at least he was defending himself. But badly.
2) I made my vote while going to my university to have an exam. You can check I've typed "I've only got 30 minutes" somewhere.

I thought I was hammering 666 and moreover I made unflipped associations (I DON'T CARE) that they both could be mafia. As I couldn't believe a scum partner would vote for a partner, instead on a townie, it made me believe that there was a better chance of 666 being mafia than meatpudding. That's why I changed votes.

Now I believe that 666 thought that changing to meatpudding would make he look town, as everybody thought meatpudding was set to be lynched. It backfired and now we have the only guy who refuses to vote for mafia. Instead, he kept trying to make you look scum and shift the vote. Why not killing him?

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

August 01 2014 13:31 GMT

#950

On August 01 2014 22:22 meatpudding wrote:
Here's my M/B/K and where I'm starting from d2.

To be declared a union under holy matrimony

Banks - The most espoused in town. His vote critical to the lynch. The only way he's mafia is if he's trying to solo the game. (Sure I wouldn't rule it out)

Make you breakfast

Teemu - 666's case on you makes no sense if you're mafia. Post some reads yourself instead of only arguing what others have posted.

Tolkien - Just another face in the crowd. I would lean town, but I feel it's too early. You've been bumped up for landing the hammer vote.

Just one dance

Jenny - I still feel pretty safe around you but not as much on before. I think your analysis is usually good but it was lacking at the end of d1. If you thought DC was scum you didn't try to argue it.

GB - I think you should be focusing on who's in your town circle before I put you in mine. You're playing a bit inconsistent and when you are serious it seems too serious and mafia contrived.

lilwade - I was a bit cautious on reading you d1. Also you were able to go under the radar for the most part. I think we should get to know each other a little better.

Leave you in a ditch

cya -

Show nested quote +

Check his reasoning on me. Does it look ok to you?
It looks like someone who is having his chance to call someone scum because people are confused about him.
I tried to look silly specially when poof started posting he had a plan. I thought his plan was to confuse mafia about my alignment and I played with it. That's because I thought I was the hammer.
I remember checking roles and there was no vigi. That's why a freely picked on it

Teemursu

Finland839 Posts

August 01 2014 13:38 GMT

#951

GB what do you think of his reads on other people?

Teemursu

Finland839 Posts

August 01 2014 13:39 GMT

#952

Anyways, I'm off to drafting some Magic, bb in a few hours.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

August 01 2014 13:47 GMT

#953

Random collection of thoughts:

I'm fairly certain DC was bussed. Given he had literally no defense of himself, either he gave up when the jig was up, so to speak, or was deliberately dying to advance mafia interests. Or perhaps abit of both, idk. But literally posting nothing but a vote change is about as white flag and suspicious as all hell, and leads me to conclude he was bussed.

Two possibilities: Either it's to deflect from meatpudding, who was a mafia power role and thus preferential to keep alive if both are up for lynch (but that assumes we lucked out on two mafia bandwagons D1: something I feel isn't very likely, and that mafia has a power role, which isnt confirmed and is thus speculation), or to cover for someone who is now currently on the DC train. I'm scrutinizing GB, but there seems little incentive to swap so late after the silence from DC was seriously deafening, or to be the "decisive vote" (how he was painted that I have no idea).

Assuming he was bussed then, either this was a pre-meditated part of mafia strategy (and mafia could've even started the wagon) since as a D1 mafia kill, this was too "easy", or spur of the moment. It significantly impacts who's under the microscope on the vote list, I think.

Or perhaps its super WIFOM and the mafia stayed on meat, but given how there was no defense of DC, it makes little/no sense.

I'm actually looking at TehPoofter again given the possibility of bussing here. But given a votelist analysis under the assumption of bussing, without ANY prior reads I'd say the following.

People who should be a D2 wagon:
Meatpudding (unless things change drastically, step it up)

People who are suspicious as all hell:
GB
Me (even tho confirmed town)

People who should be reviewed carefully:
Banks
Jenny
lilwade

People who are most likely stupid town (like srs, DC put up no defense whatsoever):
Teemu
Seeya

If you're mafia, fuck you. Everything's locked in. :D