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On July 30 2014 05:49 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 05:32 lilwade wrote:On July 30 2014 05:23 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 05:22 lilwade wrote:On July 30 2014 05:14 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 30 2014 04:14 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 04:09 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 30 2014 04:07 lilwade wrote:
Just gauging reactions m8, I like to get to know who I am playing with. I just thought it was funny you changed your vote just based on that. But hey, that might be your playstyle. I don't like this post. You might actually be mafia. Why do you think so? Apologetic to me seemed to be understanding of my style... bump that he doesn't know me maybe this is exactly how I play as mafia. Felt like he knew I was town and wanted to be sorta friendly not really start anything early. ##Unvote: tehpoofter Want to explain your vote a bit? Testing peoples actions and reactions, tehpoofter is the most town person in the game right now. Are you sure about that? He says he will come up with a list of his ideas on people, then posts mostly spam afterwards. Maybe he wasn't joking about mafia on mafia action? If time is the concern how about posting just the top 1 mafia/town tehpoofter? For me Glowingbear is easily the top town, between getting the town started working and keeping it on track. I would be interested to hear your opinions on people GB.Top Scum for me right now is tehpoofter, he spent the first half of his posts doing nothing, then says he will get to work and immediately returns to spam. ##Vote Tehpoofter
Since GlowingBear is your top town, could you give examples of GB trying to keep the town on track?
On July 30 2014 09:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Biggest problem for me is that the jokes and filler are permeating this entire thread. Makes filter-diving a bitch, pls be mo' srs gaiz (now I want to request a feature to delete posts in a filter, I could probably reduce most filters down to <5 posts each). And quote stuff you're responding to for meh.
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Anyways, quick skim through filters:
GlowingBear: Started the srs talk, but hasn't been very active past that. My experience in my second TL mafia game (fuck if I remember the number) is that moving the game out of the joke phase is an easy way for mafia to pick up extra brownie points, so I don't give any major points for that. GB, why do you peg Jenny and Seeya as your initial scum reads? Curious about that.
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I also agree with this. While I don't think it's alignment indicative to try to get past the joke phase, I see no reason to consider that person as your top town.
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Now as for you Teemu http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/462654-newbie-mini-mafia-lvii?page=17#334,I'll agree with you on some things, like about some of my opinions being shared by others before me, but in that case, is it really that odd to agree with the majority on certain actions? I like to sound off on every post as much as possible, and what I think of content of said post, and hey guess what, that will usually align with what others are saying if its fairly obvious stuff. Also how is making an early list of reads odd, specially in a forum game, just to show everyone where I am at at the moment? I wasn't even the first person to do so, how come you only came at me about that. Its a great way as town to communicate to each other where we stand with each other. In fact, you're the only one who has brought this up as scummy in your book. And who said anything about them being good reads? They were my early game-what has happened so far- reads, no where did I imply they were good reads at all.
It is very easy for mafia to just agree with everyone on what they're saying and even easier to just make a list of sheeped reads instead of scumhunting. That's what I haven't seen you do and why I have a problem with what you've done so far.
Also your point about last game seems odd to me, mostly because I wasn't in on it, but why bring it up at that moment? Nothing major just a small thing that seemed weird to me. As for the how odd... You'll notice I say a lot of things are odd, just because other people use said word. Is that something I need to change in order to come off as less scummy? Probably, but that's just how it is.
I bring it up because it happened very recently and that person was town, but the difference is that in hindsight I don't see Vivax trying to "blend in" to town and not do his part of scumhunting or figuring the game out.
To me teemu, now it just seems now that people have started to give you flak and see past your friendly demeanor, you've just thrown scum at others who have called you mafia.
I have not seen you, since you woke up a while back, even talk about other people in the game, such as Lord Tolkien or Jenny.
The first paragraph, I would like you to address the reasons I've called them mafia instead of say what I've done in a bad light.
The second... so? This doesn't make me mafia.
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On July 30 2014 15:08 Seeyalater wrote:
Oh in case its hard to see, my replies to GB's case are bolded inside his post. Goodnight y'all!
Your formatting IS terrible, at least you're not lying. 
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On July 30 2014 10:02 Seeyalater wrote:
So my updated are-
6. lilwade- Much like Teemu, a good amount of points but not a lot of substance to most of them, if any at all. Another Mafia leaning player.
Seeyalater, I don't even know what this means.
Could you quote examples of whatever you're trying to say?
Also, his filter is about as long as yours, so I wouldn't vote him off of policy if I were you.
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On July 30 2014 10:29 lilwade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 10:19 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 30 2014 10:02 Seeyalater wrote:
So my updated are-
1. GlowingBear- Leaning town so far for me, has been making decent points throughout the thread, however as others have said they seem to lack clear thoughts on what he himself is thinking. Townie enough in my book.
2. Teemursu- Very empty posts, not much substance to them, seems somewhat disinterested in the game, even though he has been posting a lot. Heavily mafia leaning.
3. DCLXVI
4. meatpudding-Afk policy lynch
5. JennyHell- Strong posts with a lot of substance to them. Any time someone asks a question to her she responds in well thought out posts, and also gives her insight a lot when others give their thoughts about the game. Top town.
6. lilwade- Much like Teemu, a good amount of points but not a lot of substance to most of them, if any at all. Another Mafia leaning player.
7. Tehpoofter- Lots of posts, good input, "friendly" demeanor, gives off a huge townie vibe. Almost too huge. Townie for today, might reevaluate further as game goes on so I don't find myself comfortably in his pocket. Although I'm probably just being extremely paranoid.
8. Lord Tolkien- In his first real post, he had more input and reasoning thrown in then all of Teemu's and lilwade's posts combined. I also liked his first post, even if it was odd. Hopefully he stays active and brings more input into the game before today ends.
9. Seeyalater- A fine townie chap who has been very active since waking up today. Doesn't have a way with words but he posts his thoughts often!
Can you read RomanNumeralGuy? I'm kinda regretting banging him atm  I get a leaning mafia vibe every time i go over his posts, at first I thought he was really town but now I think he is on the fence/leaning mafia
Why?
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I'm going through Banks's filter, and I don't get too much of a trolley vibe from him. He has expressed a lot of opinions and substantiated his reads. Is there anyone who still thinks he is mafia for being trolley?
I feel like he is being accused for trolliness (not sure if by wolves or villagers) and being cleared now that he has given opinions without looking too much into the opinions of themselves, which makes me think that either mafia has been pushing on him or he is mafia himself, slipping away from people's mafia circle.
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On July 30 2014 12:27 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 12:23 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 10:00 Tehpoofter wrote:
TEEMU IS MAFIA I'm like 75% sure.
Who is around to talk about how right I am? Why do you think so? 75% is quite strong of an opinion. Heading off soon, so won't be posting much right now. You feel apathetic towards the game. I feel like you would be in here posting like instantly upon waking up if you were town just from how I feel you play. Its 75% cause I want to see if you were busy or hear your reads. I also was wanting to talk to people cause no one was talking. Give reads.
You wanted to talk, let's talk.
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Also, Seeyalater, I didn't imply anywhere that they were good reads. What I meant to say (kinda typo'd earlier) that town doesn't have good reads early, which means that posting an early list like that is easy as mafia to appear as townie.
It is easy because the reads are either a) sheeped and the list is mostly a recap of what's been said earlier or b) fabricated. A is the case and which is why I think you're scummy.
##Unvote
Not scummy enough to warrant a vote at this point, actually, and I think I might not be on the right track. I think you might actually think that I'm mafia now, maybe.
##Vote Tehpoofter
Until he praises how town I am or discusses reads with me.
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It's kind of hard to get reads from people's push on me.
Poofter's initial read on me (inactivity, etc) was like.. okay? I kinda explained it and have obviously stepped it up, which is why I would like to hear his updated read on me.
Then, people who kind of jumped onto the read were Jenny and then Seeyalater with his liszt post.
Jenny acknowledged the read, but didn't really push on me because of it, so nothing much can be said about it. Seeyalater I've already addressed, and I think he's pretty scummy, but I want to see what his contribution for the whole day will be.
666 then noticed the scumreads and proceeded to make a case on me. I think making the case and diving into my filter was pretty towny, but I've addressed some of my concerns at like the previous page or something. I have him on the fence.
WHY IS IT SO QUIET?
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On July 30 2014 09:12 lilwade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 09:02 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 30 2014 08:41 JennyHell wrote:
In video mafia if someone is softing a role, you're not supposed to point it out to people... That's why it's softing, not hard claiming. They're trying to keep it on a down low, in hopes that mafia will not pick up on it. My soft was a little too obvious to be soft. It does worry me that he pointed it out cause yeah you generally shouldn't talk about it. I disagree completely, I think you knew it was obvious and I think you are the type to be fastidious in what you do. From what I have seen so far if you wanted to soft a role you could be more discrete.
What do you think of the fact that he jumped on what Jenny said and kinda poked at you/threw scum on you with the post you're quoting? Since even he himself acknowledges that it's too obvious to be a soft, why does you pointing that out worry him?
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On July 30 2014 17:25 HaruRH wrote:Vote Count – Day 1 Teemursu (1): Glowingbear, DCLXVI Tehpoofter (1): Glowingbear, Jennyhell, lilwade, DCLXVI, Teemursu meatpudding (1): Glowingbear seeyalater (0): Tehpoofter, Teemursulilwade (1): Tehpoofter, Lord Tolkien DCLXVI (1): Tehpoofter Not voting (-): Everyone else
Currently, meatpudding is set to be lynched with 1 vote.
Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!
Day 1 will end in (14:00 GMT (+00:00)).
People who aren't yet voting anyone:
Jenny, lilwade, meatpudding, Seeyalater.
Could you please do vote someone?
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On July 30 2014 08:26 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 06:55 JennyHell wrote:On July 30 2014 06:52 Tehpoofter wrote:
Marry (Someone I'd ride until the end of time) - Tehpoofter and Jenny
Bang (I'd love 'em and leave em) - Glowingbear, RomanNumeralGuy, Lord Tolkien
Kill (I'd vote for them to no longer be alive anymore) - Lilwade, Teemu, Seeyalater
Too insignificant to appear on the list: Everyone else can get killed or die from the sorrow of being ignored by me. May I ask for some info behind your reads? My Kills: Lilwade really wants to buddy people it seems doesn't seem to be taking conflict well. Hes asking good questions which makes me think hes played before but his buddying seemed off to me. Like he was more concerned with not being called out vs finding someone to call out. Like I don't care if anyone calls me mafia or disagrees with me because I know my alignment. I feel like thats how town play. Teemu: He fooled me last game and bump that guy. He isn't talking nearly as much as he did last game which is concerning (I think??) he was mafia last game and is doing something different which should make him townier but what hes doing is in general scummier. I'm confused on him and therefore would want him to die. SeeyaLater: His not wanting to get into anything by calling people mafia seems more scummy to me. Like he doesn't want to get on anyones bad side. Just like Lilwade. I don't like this type of playstyle if hes town you should be okay to be wrong and call people mafia and such. I haven't played with him on DM but know him so no clue how he normally plays games as well.
I think all of your explanations for the kill reads aren't impressive at all. I don't think Lilwade has been trying to buddy up with anyone, while buddying up isn't alignment indicative in itself. He also followed up with his "reaction tests" calling you his strongest town read. To me he is null at best.
I can confirm that Teemu is town.
I agree to an extent, but I think he might think I'm mafia and as Lilwade has said, he has given some reads (that you don't really address) and specifically in the post below I didn't feel like he was afraid of how he came out with his reads.
You also say that you don't know how he plays. You create a scenario in which town "should" play (I read this a little scummy), but yet you kind of contradict yourself by saying it reads more scummy to you after saying you don't know how he normally plays.
On July 30 2014 04:37 Seeyalater wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 04:32 JennyHell wrote:On July 30 2014 04:28 Seeyalater wrote:
Hey y'all I'm awake and town! So that's good.
Still heavily sick with the flu though.
Also so far reading into the game I don't trust Teemu.... What makes you not trust a tea drinking walrus? Take me on a ride through your thoughts. I don't know, he just seems a little TOO eager, you know what I mean? Like going off so hard to get people to like him(including cute pictures as well!) makes me not trust him too much. Not calling him mafia or anything, just my top scum from what has been happening here so far! Are you his partner Jenny? :o
Are you mafia, Banks?
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A wolf rather. Are you one?
I can hear it..
"AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
![[image loading]](http://www.tunturisusi.com/susilauma4.jpg)
Is this how your QT looks like?
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On July 30 2014 06:20 JennyHell wrote:
It seemed like he could see both sides of the coin. When Teemu and GB were discussing the question he gave to me, he explained why it would be a good question to ask, to gather information, and then he also at a later stage explained why it would be scummy to not share what he took from it.
He's presenting two worlds which both may very well be true and not one of them seemed to be a fact to him.
That makes me believe that he is not sitting on facts about who is mafia and who is not.
Is this the only reason you think Banks is town?
On July 30 2014 06:55 JennyHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 06:52 Tehpoofter wrote:
Marry (Someone I'd ride until the end of time) - Tehpoofter and Jenny
Bang (I'd love 'em and leave em) - Glowingbear, RomanNumeralGuy, Lord Tolkien
Kill (I'd vote for them to no longer be alive anymore) - Lilwade, Teemu, Seeyalater
Too insignificant to appear on the list: Everyone else can get killed or die from the sorrow of being ignored by me. May I ask for some info behind your reads?
Now that he substantiated his reads, what do you think of them?
Why is Banks town? How are you sure he just hasn't pocketed you yet? 
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I've posted way too much, LOL. Unless someone wants to discuss things with me, I'm going to sit back for a bit and let everyone else come back.
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On July 30 2014 19:09 meatpudding wrote:
Hey guys. Anyone still here? I'm going to look through the thread.
I'm here.
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On July 30 2014 19:09 meatpudding wrote:
Hey guys. Anyone still here? I'm going to look through the thread.
You were the first one to post after four hours (not including me), great job.
Now who do you think is mafia and why?
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On July 30 2014 19:33 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 19:22 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 19:09 meatpudding wrote:
Hey guys. Anyone still here? I'm going to look through the thread. You were the first one to post after four hours (not including me), great job. Now who do you think is mafia and why? Hi Teemu. meat - top town or tt for short
banks - town lover
jen - the devil is a woman but she's not evil
666 - definitely evil
wade - using some pressure
cya - too cautioustea - first to post first to kill (we're no strangers to love)
gb - logic infallible therefore must have perfect info
Have you caught up with everything right now?
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On July 30 2014 19:45 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 19:40 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 19:33 meatpudding wrote:On July 30 2014 19:22 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 19:09 meatpudding wrote:
Hey guys. Anyone still here? I'm going to look through the thread. You were the first one to post after four hours (not including me), great job. Now who do you think is mafia and why? Hi Teemu. meat - top town or tt for short
banks - town lover
jen - the devil is a woman but she's not evil
666 - definitely evil
wade - using some pressure
cya - too cautioustea - first to post first to kill (we're no strangers to love)
gb - logic infallible therefore must have perfect info
Have you caught up with everything right now? I'm about 2/3 the way through.
Explains why you're reading me scum, I guess.
Could you explain why you're reading Banks as town. On 666 or Seeyalater I don't know what your read is, mafia or town?
Also is your read on GB a joke?
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On July 30 2014 19:58 meatpudding wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 19:50 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 19:45 meatpudding wrote:On July 30 2014 19:40 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 19:33 meatpudding wrote:On July 30 2014 19:22 Teemursu wrote:On July 30 2014 19:09 meatpudding wrote:
Hey guys. Anyone still here? I'm going to look through the thread. You were the first one to post after four hours (not including me), great job. Now who do you think is mafia and why? Hi Teemu. meat - top town or tt for short
banks - town lover
jen - the devil is a woman but she's not evil
666 - definitely evil
wade - using some pressure
cya - too cautioustea - first to post first to kill (we're no strangers to love)
gb - logic infallible therefore must have perfect info
Have you caught up with everything right now? I'm about 2/3 the way through. Explains why you're reading me scum, I guess. Could you explain why you're reading Banks as town. On 666 or Seeyalater I don't know what your read is, mafia or town? Also is your read on GB a joke? What do you think of my town reads Jen and Banks? Banks is doing what townies do. Posting reads and pushing for scum. I'm up to the part where GB makes a case.
Banks is posting reads, yes, but I don't think he has pushed scum too well, I posted about this recently.
Not much to think of you townreading Jenny, everyone kind of is so there's not too much information there (especially since you don't substantiate much).
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