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I can't trust any of the vets.
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On July 24 2014 22:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 22:26 Teemursu wrote:
Vivax how convinced are you that Koshi is mafia? I'd say around the 70 %. I still have room for thought that he's just being cray cray as town.
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##vote: Vivax
I will never change my vote. Never.
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I don't think me claiming would serve much purpose. Mostly those who are active in the thread don't want to lynch me anyway and it'd just make things easier for scum.
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On July 24 2014 22:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 22:26 Teemursu wrote:
Vivax how convinced are you that Koshi is mafia? I'd say around the 70 %. I still have room for thought that he's just being cray cray as town.
I am fairly sure Koshi does not have the capacity to be this crazy as mafia. I'm not sure why you think he does.
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On July 24 2014 22:31 Xatalos wrote:
I don't think me claiming would serve much purpose. Mostly those who are active in the thread don't want to lynch me anyway and it'd just make things easier for scum.
how?
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On July 24 2014 22:32 Chopin Liszt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 22:31 Xatalos wrote:
I don't think me claiming would serve much purpose. Mostly those who are active in the thread don't want to lynch me anyway and it'd just make things easier for scum. how?
More information to help with night kill decisions.
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On July 24 2014 22:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
The fact that we are sleepwalking towards this lynch with almost everyone on Xatalos either barely here or not at all, and all the votes off Xatalos being spread about, means that Xatalos is probably town.
So let's not lynch him.
Thing is, I'm not reading anyone that's voting Xata as strongly scum, which is making me paranoid that I'm mafiasiding if I vote with you/Xata/Damdred/Obi and I'm not so sure about Koshi and Vivax.
This is probably really bad/idiotic/beginner-like, but it's my honest feel of paranoia.
Right now I just want to go by my reads and vote on either Obi, or now Damdred, who I just went through and am pretty convinced that he's a good shot at finding mafia.
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On July 24 2014 22:32 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 22:32 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 24 2014 22:31 Xatalos wrote:
I don't think me claiming would serve much purpose. Mostly those who are active in the thread don't want to lynch me anyway and it'd just make things easier for scum. how? More information to help with night kill decisions.
If you die now then there is no more information.
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On July 24 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 22:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
The fact that we are sleepwalking towards this lynch with almost everyone on Xatalos either barely here or not at all, and all the votes off Xatalos being spread about, means that Xatalos is probably town.
So let's not lynch him. Thing is, I'm not reading anyone that's voting Xata as strongly scum, which is making me paranoid that I'm mafiasiding if I vote with you/Xata/Damdred/Obi and I'm not so sure about Koshi and Vivax. This is probably really bad/idiotic/beginner-like, but it's my honest feel of paranoia. Right now I just want to go by my reads and vote on either Obi, or now Damdred, who I just went through and am pretty convinced that he's a good shot at finding mafia.
No you are on the right track. Perfect.
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On July 24 2014 22:33 Chopin Liszt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 22:32 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 22:32 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 24 2014 22:31 Xatalos wrote:
I don't think me claiming would serve much purpose. Mostly those who are active in the thread don't want to lynch me anyway and it'd just make things easier for scum. how? More information to help with night kill decisions. If you die now then there is no more information.
My death isn't yet decided.
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On July 24 2014 22:31 Xatalos wrote:
I don't think me claiming would serve much purpose. Mostly those who are active in the thread don't want to lynch me anyway and it'd just make things easier for scum.
If you're a town sided role, please, claim.
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On July 24 2014 22:32 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 22:32 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 24 2014 22:31 Xatalos wrote:
I don't think me claiming would serve much purpose. Mostly those who are active in the thread don't want to lynch me anyway and it'd just make things easier for scum. how? More information to help with night kill decisions.
Ok you already soft claimed blue. If you are VT, NK wont fucking matter, because nobody will ever shoot you.
So. Let's hear it which blue.
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On July 24 2014 22:31 Chopin Liszt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 22:30 Vivax wrote:On July 24 2014 22:26 Teemursu wrote:
Vivax how convinced are you that Koshi is mafia? I'd say around the 70 %. I still have room for thought that he's just being cray cray as town. I am fairly sure Koshi does not have the capacity to be this crazy as mafia. I'm not sure why you think he does.
Time will tell, for today I prefer to focus on finding the right choice between Xata/Obi/Dam, and my preferred choice for the moment is Dam.
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The case against me is quite frankly flimsy and shitty at best. I will admit my activity has been subpar and I really don't want to say in thread at this point no need to bring rl situation up and clutter up the thread just that i'm here now and will be reading the thread all day.
No good points have been brought up and if the only points is that I did make a post to look like I try hard yea....just a mislynch waiting to happen and I don't want the town to lose and I can help the town win i'm a freaking townie and i'm not going to give up fighting for myself this time.
let me tell you this I wanted to follow up with Xatalos but he freaking ignored me after I posted. I posted and I believe ray had to say hey Damdreds post was useless but you didn't even say anything about it. and his response was
On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit. I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare. no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases. damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer. Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck. Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck. Teemu called you scummy for who knows why. Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up. I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all. Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group.
and then I responded with
On July 24 2014 00:57 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit. I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare. no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases. damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer. Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck. Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck. Teemu called you scummy for who knows why. Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up. I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all. Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group. Ok my post is useless, atleast respond to it and say that and answer some questions that I posed instead of totally ignoring it since you got back. And I really haven't had a chance to follow it up so far today thats why i'm posting now
And you know what as far as I can tell Xa still ignored me up until
On July 24 2014 18:26 Xatalos wrote:I think most of the people on my wagon look pretty good. The most scummy vote is definitely batsnacks, since it was just an opportunistic bandwagon vote. If I had to bet on someone being scum on the wagon, it would be batsnacks (in big part thanks to that pretty apathetic&opportunistic vote). He's also not really paying attention to what he's reading since he pretty much started the issue of me "scumreading" VA >.> If you look a bit further than the actual wagon, you can see that Damdred has neatly set himself up for voting me without actually voting me yet. Maybe it's a bit hypocritical, considering my weak commitments so far, but this is the ultimate non-committing push on me (while still giving him the opportunity to vote for me later on): Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 10:53 Damdred wrote:Heres my thoughts about Xatalos right now, hes just seems a bit odd to me right now. On July 23 2014 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote raynpelikoneet
Sigh Enters thread with an odd opening no sign of real communication. On July 23 2014 05:55 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 05:34 Vivax wrote:On July 23 2014 03:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, I'll join the random lynch thing.
I just saw Christ the Redeemer far away, and it looks like a T.
Therefore:
##Vote: Teemursu
Die. On July 23 2014 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote raynpelikoneet
Sigh Gut wise I don't like these entrances. I can see what you're getting at with that comment. Both of these posts are kind of apathetic. In any case, it's not much to work with. I'm town anyways and GB could be just playing around a bit. Follows it up by defending himself and glowing, she might be town but he definitely is cool. On July 23 2014 06:16 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 06:10 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 23 2014 06:09 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 06:06 Chairman Ray wrote:The exchange between Xatalos and Koshi is the most awkward and forced conversation I have ever seen, especially this: On July 23 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos it has been a while. I am town this game. You must be so happy. Hmm. I think I want you to live longer than D1 just for the "Mafia totes alive guis" mass PM. That, and my history of reading you is horrible. I have the vague idea that someone explained your meta to me in a recent game so I'll search for that. If we had two lynches, I'd lynch them both. ##Vote: Xatalos I don't think it's a good idea to lynch either of us for D1. Generally speaking. What does this mean? Koshi can look scummy during D1 as town so it's not usually a good time to lynch him. I'm generally active regardless of my alignment, and I become a (somewhat) valuable asset throughout the game as town and I tend to reveal myself more easily later on as scum (+leaving material to work with). Neither of us are ideal D1 lynches. But if someone looks and feels scummy and plays great scum in your mind why would you want to keep them around? Isn't it better if you honest think they are scum to take them out fast and not risk them swaying people against you? Bit weird talking about yourself their as well, I know you think yourself an asset but why even include the thing about the scum their? On July 23 2014 06:41 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 06:38 Chairman Ray wrote:On July 23 2014 06:26 Koshi wrote:
I think you are out of your mind if you think we had the most awkward conversation ever. I said "how happy are you I am town". How am I here being awkward?
Xatalos his answer might have been odd. But how can you say that even I am scummy? What kind of insane connection is that CR? Why isn't Xatalos scummy that can't reply to my awesome trick question???
Hmmmm? Your side of the conversation was fine, but that's to be expected of you whether you are scum or not. Xatalos was not fine. He pocketed you for the weirdest reason at the weirdest time. I'm leaning towards scum pocketing scum rather than scum pocketing town. As a sidenote, I'm extremely careful not to connect myself with my teammates as scum. You can see me bussing / semi-bussing / distancing my teammates in pretty much every game. I would never fake a friendly conversation with my teammate as scum, at least right away. This feels weird to trying to paint yourself as town by saying that you play scum one way and town another....whos to say that you don't change it up from time to time to make yourself look town? Overall I get a really odd vibe from Xatalos posts, and as others have posted he has singled out a couple of low fruit even though it hurts my pride. I'd like him to answer some before I change votes. On July 23 2014 10:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
^scum Also why Haru has seemed to be scum hunting in his posts so far. So those two are definitely the scummiest votes (or almost-votes) on me.
OH hey you finally see me when i've dissapeared for almost a whole day, so seriously? You ignore my questions and everything I post besides when ray points out my post was bad then you are like hey this is bad and then you ignore it even further before you post a little case on me? Seriously?
I am the easiest target for him right now to try to get some of these lynch votes off of him, i'm really sheepable if i'm to be frank with low activity and a "try hard" post. But Xat play this game has been odd he has town hunted with Viv had to be told to move his vote off of viv I believe that was a weird scenario. And generally he has said a lot in the thread without actually saying much and honestly his reads have looked just as try hard as my post did at this point.
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On July 24 2014 22:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 22:26 Chopin Liszt wrote:
The fact that we are sleepwalking towards this lynch with almost everyone on Xatalos either barely here or not at all, and all the votes off Xatalos being spread about, means that Xatalos is probably town.
So let's not lynch him. Thing is, I'm not reading anyone that's voting Xata as strongly scum, which is making me paranoid that I'm mafiasiding if I vote with you/Xata/Damdred/Obi and I'm not so sure about Koshi and Vivax. This is probably really bad/idiotic/beginner-like, but it's my honest feel of paranoia. Right now I just want to go by my reads and vote on either Obi, or now Damdred, who I just went through and am pretty convinced that he's a good shot at finding mafia. No you are on the right track. Perfect.
Koshi, if you're town, you have to realise that Vivax is almost guaranteed not going to get lynched today. I feel like we need to decide who to lynch between Obi/Damdred if we don't want to lynch Xata.
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There's still 2 hours of time before the lynch?
Well, I can lynch ObiWan. He showed little interest in me being the main wagon despite (slightly?) townreading me.
##Unvote
##Vote ObiWan
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I wanna see a full out shitfight over arguments between Xata and Damdred now.
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On July 24 2014 22:15 Teemursu wrote:
Damdred, if you're here. I want to hear what you got out of the questions that you asked me. I addressed everything you wanted me to address and then just started lurking.
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I feel like town is in a terrible spot.
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