Yea Xata seems really unemotional and laid back with all that's happening revolving around him which is also the reason I considered him to be potential scum, but then, when I think about it, I could see that happen as either alignment, and it might just be his style. He's exceptionally not-tryhard, but on the other hand scum will try to appear tryhard while doing as little as possible, with exception of HF who is super tryhard scum.

So I will cautiously say bad scum will do as little as possible while appearing tryhard, and that's the camp I see Damdred in at the moment.

Teemursu

Finland839 Posts

July 24 2014 12:43 GMT

#1184

On July 24 2014 21:42 Xatalos wrote:
Oh, there's only 3 hours left. What's the vote count?

All you need to know is that you're about to get lynched.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

July 24 2014 12:43 GMT

#1185

How the fuck is Xatalos being lynched while all big filters are not on him? Yet there is almost no resistance. Which doesn't make Xatalos town in this 13 vs 3 setup ofc.

It just makes all the big filters scum.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

July 24 2014 12:45 GMT

#1186

Chopin, could you elaborate on your Damdred/batsnacks read?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

July 24 2014 12:45 GMT

#1187

Xatalos. Go roleclaim. Let's pray you are not a VT.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

July 24 2014 12:46 GMT

#1188

50% that you are blue in this game. Pretty sick.

Vivax

22406 Posts

July 24 2014 12:46 GMT

#1189

On July 24 2014 21:43 Koshi wrote:
How the fuck is Xatalos being lynched while all big filters are not on him? Yet there is almost no resistance. Which doesn't make Xatalos town in this 13 vs 3 setup ofc.

It just makes all the big filters scum.

Chopin Liszt

United States304 Posts

July 24 2014 12:46 GMT

#1190

On July 24 2014 16:38 slOosh wrote:

Day 1 Votecount

Xatalos (6) - Chairman Ray, GlowingBear, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus, batsnacks
Damdred (3) - Chopin Liszt, Vivax, Xatalos
VayneAuthority (2) - Teemursu, Palmar
Vivax (1) - ObiWanShinobi
Chopin Liszt (2) - Damdred, Koshi
HaruRH (1) - VayneAuthority

I updated this somewhat from memory. Which votes are wrong/missing?

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

July 24 2014 12:47 GMT

#1191

On July 24 2014 21:36 Teemursu wrote:

Show nested quote +

On July 24 2014 17:36 Teemursu wrote:

On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:

On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:

On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit.

I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare.

no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases.

damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer.

Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck.

Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck.

Teemu called you scummy for who knows why.

Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up.

I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all.

Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group.

On July 24 2014 02:40 Xatalos wrote:

On July 24 2014 02:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Oof. Caught up with a little bit of skimming

On July 24 2014 02:13 Xatalos wrote:
Oh yeah, GlowingBear was also voting me.

GB: Don't you think basing your scumread on a single listpost (that most people seem to consider as null) is a bit weak? And when you say that "mafia changed the focus" which players are you suggesting did that -> are scum?

I do believe that basing my scumread in a single list post is weak. But I think that your follow up was also scum because, as people said before, you don't seem like to scum hunt at any point of the game. This, summed up with the problems I noticed on your post, makes my scumread at you.

I don't have a good idea of which players, as town could've brought another case and scum tried to hop on the wagon to disrupt attention, or mafia could've started it and townies jumped on. But if I had to guess, I'd guess shinobi is mafia for saying "god, no discussion" when I added a case on your list post (which could be read as a good case or bad case, whatever - it was at least a discussion starter). Even after that, he tried to change the focus to discuss a policy lynch on Chopin. Lol. Let's discuss policies lynch but ignore a case? Nope.

Don't you think I've been scumhunting by, for example, trying to discover Vivax's alignment? Oh well. It's true that I've been a bit lazy so far.

If you're town, could you stop being lazy and fight this lynch? Who do you think is mafia and why?

You haven't given a clear scumread so far. I already accused of you being hypocritical for leaving your "options open" while accusing Navi for the same thing. Now that I read through your filter properly, I haven't seen you push ANYONE.

Could you, please? I feel like you're given all the chance to prove you're town and fight the lynch, but instead you're going down like you've accepted it already. Your whole filter is just random fluff with no direction. It's such a bore to try to read it.

I don't have strong confidence in anyone being scum. Damdred and batsnacks look the worst atm.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

July 24 2014 12:47 GMT

#1192

On July 24 2014 21:46 Chopin Liszt wrote:

Show nested quote +

I updated this somewhat from memory. Which votes are wrong/missing?

I would say around 7 on Vivax.

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

July 24 2014 12:47 GMT

#1193

For HF

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

July 24 2014 12:50 GMT

#1194

I don't see a reason to claim.

Vivax

22406 Posts

July 24 2014 12:51 GMT

#1195

On July 24 2014 21:50 Xatalos wrote:
I don't see a reason to claim.

That's my boy.

Chopin Liszt

United States304 Posts

July 24 2014 12:52 GMT

#1196

On July 24 2014 16:38 slOosh wrote:

Day 1 Votecount

Assuming this is correct, all the votes in red are effectively useless right now. That's 2/5 of the votes being cast on people who aren't getting lynched.

Can we fix this please.

Damdred has a good chance of being mafia. Better than Xatalos.

Haru is not mafia.
Votes on Vayne and me are silly for differing reasons.

Just looking at this, Obiwan might be mafia. He's practically let this day slide by completely. I would support a lynch on Obiwan.