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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 17 2014 22:40 GMT
#3114
sure, go ahead.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2014 07:36 GMT
#3147
lol.

##Unvote
HiroPro
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United States2624 Posts
July 18 2014 15:08 GMT
#3166
##Vote Vivax
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 19 2014 22:48 GMT
#3289
I have very little time to spend right now so please don't hammer until Palmar forces the deadline.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 21 2014 21:19 GMT
#3479
Thanks for hosting Palmar/marv. I thought the setup was pretty interesting. I probably shouldn't have signed up with the amount of time I had to play so I apologize for that.


On July 22 2014 06:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 05:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 22 2014 04:37 marvellosity wrote:
On July 22 2014 04:17 kitaman27 wrote:
It seems more often than not that the assassin roles are claiming victory by accident, whether it be a lynch, mafia night hit, or in this case, modkill. While an assassin needs to avoid these things in order to win, I'm not sure the other assassin should be rewarded for their target getting lynched or hit n1. I wonder if there are any variations to the role that would allow it to remain neutral, but require more skill to pull off their win condition.

I'm actually very happy with how assassin is here. You're right - there are various ways to skin the cat, but you have a 50/50 shot, and if the other assassin can't stop himself being lynched or modkilled, then you de facto outplayed him.

I really dislike making assassin's jobs too difficult where you no longer have a 50/50 shot at winning, but a 25/25/50 shot or something due to mechanics. I played in a game where assassins got a single check - it's really bloody difficult to find 3p with accuracy, and if I missed my check, then what? I sit around in the game with absolutely nothing to do just hoping to win by chance?

If you don't get lynched, modkilled etc and the other person does, then I think you deserve your victory. It's on the other dude to make it more of a challenge.

I mean isn't it just easier to not miss your check?

well obviously I won n1 by shooting him, but that's besides the point

That game only had 14 players though and you had the ability to talk to a different person anonymously every cycle. There was also a lot of kp in that game (mafia shot, two assassin shots, a dreamflower, and an america). So if I had given you a check every night, you would have very little need at all to think about who the other 3p was. They would either have been checked or dead.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 21:38:16
July 21 2014 21:36 GMT
#3490
On July 22 2014 06:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 06:19 HiroPro wrote:
Thanks for hosting Palmar/marv. I thought the setup was pretty interesting. I probably shouldn't have signed up with the amount of time I had to play so I apologize for that.


On July 22 2014 06:09 marvellosity wrote:
On July 22 2014 05:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On July 22 2014 04:37 marvellosity wrote:
On July 22 2014 04:17 kitaman27 wrote:
It seems more often than not that the assassin roles are claiming victory by accident, whether it be a lynch, mafia night hit, or in this case, modkill. While an assassin needs to avoid these things in order to win, I'm not sure the other assassin should be rewarded for their target getting lynched or hit n1. I wonder if there are any variations to the role that would allow it to remain neutral, but require more skill to pull off their win condition.

I'm actually very happy with how assassin is here. You're right - there are various ways to skin the cat, but you have a 50/50 shot, and if the other assassin can't stop himself being lynched or modkilled, then you de facto outplayed him.

I really dislike making assassin's jobs too difficult where you no longer have a 50/50 shot at winning, but a 25/25/50 shot or something due to mechanics. I played in a game where assassins got a single check - it's really bloody difficult to find 3p with accuracy, and if I missed my check, then what? I sit around in the game with absolutely nothing to do just hoping to win by chance?

If you don't get lynched, modkilled etc and the other person does, then I think you deserve your victory. It's on the other dude to make it more of a challenge.

I mean isn't it just easier to not miss your check?

well obviously I won n1 by shooting him, but that's besides the point

That game only had 14 players though and you had the ability to talk to a different person anonymously every cycle. There was also a lot of kp in that game (mafia shot, two assassin shots, a dreamflower, and an america). So if I had given you a check every night, you would have very little need at all to think about who the other 3p was. They would either have been checked or dead.

Of course there is need, because I need to get there first. It just makes more sense to have a check every night, because if the assassin works me out before I work him out, then he wins. That's the point! Leaving us with only one check effectively removes the race that should be the entire idea.

I dunno. Personally I thought the anonymous mason still gave you something to work with even if you missed your check. Like I didn't expect it to work as well as what yamato gave you but it still seems to me that it should allow you to figure out the other assassin. Did you feel that it wasn't useful? Because I don't remember you masoning anyone.

On July 22 2014 06:27 marvellosity wrote:
Well you should have lynched BM on the spot for trying to get a townie lynched for no reason with a fake check, followed by expressing disappointment that the townie didn't get lynched.

No-one seemed to bat an eyelid.

Well the thing is I had no thread presence at all and I couldn't get him lynched before that for blatantly lying for no reason. So it was simply easier to hope that he was just insane.
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