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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 23 2014 02:47 GMT
#658
On June 23 2014 11:27 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just from rereading the thread over my town reads would be

Scott: He votes on himself because he feels that the game isn't for him. Then thanks me for telling him to keep fighting if he was town. If Scott was mafia, I doubt he would be feeling alone, as he would have a mafia qt to post in and ask for advice. He hasn't contributed a whole lot but i really think he is town.

King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

The_Templar:
Says scumhunting isn't essential day 1, doesn't like scott, and is willing to lynch him because he has no scum read.

Like the reason i don't like CATS, Tolkien, is because they seem very ready to lynch people, and throwing scum on people to sway town into voting on them. (this isn't OMGUS) but teemu on the other hand votes on people to get reactions and reads. I think there is a very clear distinction. I usually don't pay too much attention, but in this case imo the distinction is pretty clear.

Teemu: I really like teemu, he's pushing for information, and getting reads. He thinks pudding is scum, which i think pudding could be town.

Nydus: Hasn't posted a ton recently but i think he's pretty town. The way i distinguish between his town and mafia play is how objective he is to the game. When he's town his reads are more selfish and when he's mafia his reads are really objective.

Tolkien: i honestly don't like, once again not for OMGUS, but he wants to lynch lurkers, which i don't agree with. If they keep on lurking they could get modkilled. He also is telling blue roles how to play the game. There is more than one way to play mafia, and i think he's just fishing for roles to kill in the night honestly. I also don't like the fact that when people talked about my inconsistency on cat's and tolkien. No one really mentioned the fact that there could be a relationship between tolkien and I. IMO if mafia are going to go for an inconsitancy like that it happens for a reason.

HARUH: Leaning pretty town. I like his reads early on in the game.

Epishade: I don't know atm. I get this odd feeling like he's playing slightly different than he was the last time i played with him when he was town. Don't know what this really means, but could potentially expand on this on d2 if im alive.

in the mafia fence pile
jabber
glowingbear (first post striked me as really odd)
pudding (said he could be town, but i think teemu is pretty town and teemu is pretty good at finding mafia)

Why are me and Tolkien on your townpile if you don't like either of us?

Where was Tolkien telling blue roles how to play the game and how is that scummy?

What is this possible relationship between you and Tolkien?

Can you elaborate on why the people in your mafia pile are scummy?
[/QUOTE]
I'm going to help meat a bit and answer that relationship question. This post was the initial lynch post, where tolkien did something similar to what I did later (although I've retracted mine in favor of the still very scummy meatpudding)
Moderatorshe/her
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 23 2014 02:48 GMT
#660
On June 23 2014 11:46 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:36 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:36 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
me?

cause it hasn't changed.

You should have said that instead of saying that you didn't want to- that seemed very weird. :\


oh i misread that, i still don't want to give a read on her. Don't recall giving a read on her in the first place.



I was referring to Cats?
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 23 2014 02:55 GMT
#664
On June 23 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:38 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
im not going to tell you why i would shoot her.... thats fucking dumb

why is it so dumb for a town to elaborate on something he said when directly asked?

Yeah, share your thought process MM. There's literally no reason to not do so, except time >.>
Moderatorshe/her
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 23 2014 03:04 GMT
#679
On June 23 2014 11:59 Hobbitus wrote:
Templar, this
Show nested quote +
King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

is enough for you to change your mind about MM?

Despite Tolkien's beautiful argument?

Show nested quote +
MysteryMeat's contribution is him trying to pose as normal town when he hasn't been posting much. My (limited) experience with lurker scum is that they hide until the second half of Day 1 before posting a "reads" list, and giving a vote in the hopes it'll let them off the hook for any suspicion, and voting for a possible bandwagon based on the general feelings in the thread. Let's be real here, NO ONE in this thread thought I was scum until GlowingBear (I believe Haru had already removed his vote at the time), so he figured it'd be best to continue the trend. Cats a safe vote. A bandwagon on meatpudding, but Cats is under suspicion so his vote won't be heavily scruitinized D2 if meatpudding turns up green.

It's just impossible for him not to even MENTION that I pushed for a lynch on a player for being deadweight and being FINE with a mislynch if that happens, if that's why he's so bent on voting Cats. It's just ridiculously impossible, like holy shit.

I never changed my general opinion of MysteryMeat. However, he's sort of looking frantic at this point, so I'm considering changing my vote back. I don't like changing my vote back and forth so I'm waiting until a conclusion is being reached.

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 12:00 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:47 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:27 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just from rereading the thread over my town reads would be

Scott: He votes on himself because he feels that the game isn't for him. Then thanks me for telling him to keep fighting if he was town. If Scott was mafia, I doubt he would be feeling alone, as he would have a mafia qt to post in and ask for advice. He hasn't contributed a whole lot but i really think he is town.

King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

The_Templar:
Says scumhunting isn't essential day 1, doesn't like scott, and is willing to lynch him because he has no scum read.

Like the reason i don't like CATS, Tolkien, is because they seem very ready to lynch people, and throwing scum on people to sway town into voting on them. (this isn't OMGUS) but teemu on the other hand votes on people to get reactions and reads. I think there is a very clear distinction. I usually don't pay too much attention, but in this case imo the distinction is pretty clear.

Teemu: I really like teemu, he's pushing for information, and getting reads. He thinks pudding is scum, which i think pudding could be town.

Nydus: Hasn't posted a ton recently but i think he's pretty town. The way i distinguish between his town and mafia play is how objective he is to the game. When he's town his reads are more selfish and when he's mafia his reads are really objective.

Tolkien: i honestly don't like, once again not for OMGUS, but he wants to lynch lurkers, which i don't agree with. If they keep on lurking they could get modkilled. He also is telling blue roles how to play the game. There is more than one way to play mafia, and i think he's just fishing for roles to kill in the night honestly. I also don't like the fact that when people talked about my inconsistency on cat's and tolkien. No one really mentioned the fact that there could be a relationship between tolkien and I. IMO if mafia are going to go for an inconsitancy like that it happens for a reason.

HARUH: Leaning pretty town. I like his reads early on in the game.

Epishade: I don't know atm. I get this odd feeling like he's playing slightly different than he was the last time i played with him when he was town. Don't know what this really means, but could potentially expand on this on d2 if im alive.

in the mafia fence pile
jabber
glowingbear (first post striked me as really odd)
pudding (said he could be town, but i think teemu is pretty town and teemu is pretty good at finding mafia)

Why are me and Tolkien on your townpile if you don't like either of us?

Where was Tolkien telling blue roles how to play the game and how is that scummy?

What is this possible relationship between you and Tolkien?

Can you elaborate on why the people in your mafia pile are scummy?

I'm going to help meat a bit and answer that relationship question. This post was the initial lynch post, where tolkien did something similar to what I did later (although I've retracted mine in favor of the still very scummy meatpudding)

I'm sorry but i really can't see what you're getting at. How does that post help explain a relationship between MM and Tolkien?

It got the town riled up against MM for the most part. It also caused my vote to change to MM to pressure him, which made him come out and start defending himself. Now MM is defending himself from Tolkien among other people.

This thread has gotten really, really weird.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 23 2014 03:06 GMT
#683
On June 23 2014 12:04 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:59 Hobbitus wrote:
Templar, this
King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

is enough for you to change your mind about MM?

Despite Tolkien's beautiful argument?

MysteryMeat's contribution is him trying to pose as normal town when he hasn't been posting much. My (limited) experience with lurker scum is that they hide until the second half of Day 1 before posting a "reads" list, and giving a vote in the hopes it'll let them off the hook for any suspicion, and voting for a possible bandwagon based on the general feelings in the thread. Let's be real here, NO ONE in this thread thought I was scum until GlowingBear (I believe Haru had already removed his vote at the time), so he figured it'd be best to continue the trend. Cats a safe vote. A bandwagon on meatpudding, but Cats is under suspicion so his vote won't be heavily scruitinized D2 if meatpudding turns up green.

It's just impossible for him not to even MENTION that I pushed for a lynch on a player for being deadweight and being FINE with a mislynch if that happens, if that's why he's so bent on voting Cats. It's just ridiculously impossible, like holy shit.

I never changed my general opinion of MysteryMeat. However, he's sort of looking frantic at this point, so I'm considering changing my vote back. I don't like changing my vote back and forth so I'm waiting until a conclusion is being reached.
Show nested quote +

On June 23 2014 12:00 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:47 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:27 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just from rereading the thread over my town reads would be

Scott: He votes on himself because he feels that the game isn't for him. Then thanks me for telling him to keep fighting if he was town. If Scott was mafia, I doubt he would be feeling alone, as he would have a mafia qt to post in and ask for advice. He hasn't contributed a whole lot but i really think he is town.

King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

The_Templar:
Says scumhunting isn't essential day 1, doesn't like scott, and is willing to lynch him because he has no scum read.

Like the reason i don't like CATS, Tolkien, is because they seem very ready to lynch people, and throwing scum on people to sway town into voting on them. (this isn't OMGUS) but teemu on the other hand votes on people to get reactions and reads. I think there is a very clear distinction. I usually don't pay too much attention, but in this case imo the distinction is pretty clear.

Teemu: I really like teemu, he's pushing for information, and getting reads. He thinks pudding is scum, which i think pudding could be town.

Nydus: Hasn't posted a ton recently but i think he's pretty town. The way i distinguish between his town and mafia play is how objective he is to the game. When he's town his reads are more selfish and when he's mafia his reads are really objective.

Tolkien: i honestly don't like, once again not for OMGUS, but he wants to lynch lurkers, which i don't agree with. If they keep on lurking they could get modkilled. He also is telling blue roles how to play the game. There is more than one way to play mafia, and i think he's just fishing for roles to kill in the night honestly. I also don't like the fact that when people talked about my inconsistency on cat's and tolkien. No one really mentioned the fact that there could be a relationship between tolkien and I. IMO if mafia are going to go for an inconsitancy like that it happens for a reason.

HARUH: Leaning pretty town. I like his reads early on in the game.

Epishade: I don't know atm. I get this odd feeling like he's playing slightly different than he was the last time i played with him when he was town. Don't know what this really means, but could potentially expand on this on d2 if im alive.

in the mafia fence pile
jabber
glowingbear (first post striked me as really odd)
pudding (said he could be town, but i think teemu is pretty town and teemu is pretty good at finding mafia)

Why are me and Tolkien on your townpile if you don't like either of us?

Where was Tolkien telling blue roles how to play the game and how is that scummy?

What is this possible relationship between you and Tolkien?

Can you elaborate on why the people in your mafia pile are scummy?

I'm going to help meat a bit and answer that relationship question. This post was the initial lynch post, where tolkien did something similar to what I did later (although I've retracted mine in favor of the still very scummy meatpudding)

I'm sorry but i really can't see what you're getting at. How does that post help explain a relationship between MM and Tolkien?

It got the town riled up against MM for the most part. It also caused my vote to change to MM to pressure him, which made him come out and start defending himself. Now MM is defending himself from Tolkien among other people.

This thread has gotten really, really weird.

To clarify: I am mentally voting for MM at this point, and if nothing has changed in the next 40 or so minutes, I'll unvote meatpudding. But I don't want to spam the vote list.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 23 2014 03:07 GMT
#685
On June 23 2014 12:06 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 12:04 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:59 Hobbitus wrote:
Templar, this
King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

is enough for you to change your mind about MM?

Despite Tolkien's beautiful argument?

MysteryMeat's contribution is him trying to pose as normal town when he hasn't been posting much. My (limited) experience with lurker scum is that they hide until the second half of Day 1 before posting a "reads" list, and giving a vote in the hopes it'll let them off the hook for any suspicion, and voting for a possible bandwagon based on the general feelings in the thread. Let's be real here, NO ONE in this thread thought I was scum until GlowingBear (I believe Haru had already removed his vote at the time), so he figured it'd be best to continue the trend. Cats a safe vote. A bandwagon on meatpudding, but Cats is under suspicion so his vote won't be heavily scruitinized D2 if meatpudding turns up green.

It's just impossible for him not to even MENTION that I pushed for a lynch on a player for being deadweight and being FINE with a mislynch if that happens, if that's why he's so bent on voting Cats. It's just ridiculously impossible, like holy shit.

I never changed my general opinion of MysteryMeat. However, he's sort of looking frantic at this point, so I'm considering changing my vote back. I don't like changing my vote back and forth so I'm waiting until a conclusion is being reached.

On June 23 2014 12:00 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:47 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:27 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just from rereading the thread over my town reads would be

Scott: He votes on himself because he feels that the game isn't for him. Then thanks me for telling him to keep fighting if he was town. If Scott was mafia, I doubt he would be feeling alone, as he would have a mafia qt to post in and ask for advice. He hasn't contributed a whole lot but i really think he is town.

King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

The_Templar:
Says scumhunting isn't essential day 1, doesn't like scott, and is willing to lynch him because he has no scum read.

Like the reason i don't like CATS, Tolkien, is because they seem very ready to lynch people, and throwing scum on people to sway town into voting on them. (this isn't OMGUS) but teemu on the other hand votes on people to get reactions and reads. I think there is a very clear distinction. I usually don't pay too much attention, but in this case imo the distinction is pretty clear.

Teemu: I really like teemu, he's pushing for information, and getting reads. He thinks pudding is scum, which i think pudding could be town.

Nydus: Hasn't posted a ton recently but i think he's pretty town. The way i distinguish between his town and mafia play is how objective he is to the game. When he's town his reads are more selfish and when he's mafia his reads are really objective.

Tolkien: i honestly don't like, once again not for OMGUS, but he wants to lynch lurkers, which i don't agree with. If they keep on lurking they could get modkilled. He also is telling blue roles how to play the game. There is more than one way to play mafia, and i think he's just fishing for roles to kill in the night honestly. I also don't like the fact that when people talked about my inconsistency on cat's and tolkien. No one really mentioned the fact that there could be a relationship between tolkien and I. IMO if mafia are going to go for an inconsitancy like that it happens for a reason.

HARUH: Leaning pretty town. I like his reads early on in the game.

Epishade: I don't know atm. I get this odd feeling like he's playing slightly different than he was the last time i played with him when he was town. Don't know what this really means, but could potentially expand on this on d2 if im alive.

in the mafia fence pile
jabber
glowingbear (first post striked me as really odd)
pudding (said he could be town, but i think teemu is pretty town and teemu is pretty good at finding mafia)

Why are me and Tolkien on your townpile if you don't like either of us?

Where was Tolkien telling blue roles how to play the game and how is that scummy?

What is this possible relationship between you and Tolkien?

Can you elaborate on why the people in your mafia pile are scummy?

I'm going to help meat a bit and answer that relationship question. This post was the initial lynch post, where tolkien did something similar to what I did later (although I've retracted mine in favor of the still very scummy meatpudding)

I'm sorry but i really can't see what you're getting at. How does that post help explain a relationship between MM and Tolkien?

It got the town riled up against MM for the most part. It also caused my vote to change to MM to pressure him, which made him come out and start defending himself. Now MM is defending himself from Tolkien among other people.

This thread has gotten really, really weird.

To clarify: I am mentally voting for MM at this point, and if nothing has changed in the next 40 or so minutes, I'll unvote meatpudding. But I don't want to spam the vote list.

And I am voting for MM because of his very frantic defense in which he doesn't want to give too much away for some reason.
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TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 23 2014 03:08 GMT
#687
On June 23 2014 12:07 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
if you tell a blue role how to play and in a newbie game they start playing like that, then you are essentially fishing for roles. If they start listening to you, and you notice then you can shoot them in the night.

He was only emphasizing the importance of not lurking though.
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TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 23 2014 03:11 GMT
#692
On June 23 2014 12:09 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Also kingofCats are you fucking retarded? Like, i posted a scenario for a possible relationship between tolkien and i that no one pointed out.

I also gave told you why i found people in my scum people i found scummy...

If there is a vigi, for the love of god, shoot Cats.

I can't find the mentioned scenario, what is it?
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 23 2014 03:13 GMT
#697
On June 23 2014 12:12 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 12:04 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:59 Hobbitus wrote:
Templar, this
King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

is enough for you to change your mind about MM?

Despite Tolkien's beautiful argument?

MysteryMeat's contribution is him trying to pose as normal town when he hasn't been posting much. My (limited) experience with lurker scum is that they hide until the second half of Day 1 before posting a "reads" list, and giving a vote in the hopes it'll let them off the hook for any suspicion, and voting for a possible bandwagon based on the general feelings in the thread. Let's be real here, NO ONE in this thread thought I was scum until GlowingBear (I believe Haru had already removed his vote at the time), so he figured it'd be best to continue the trend. Cats a safe vote. A bandwagon on meatpudding, but Cats is under suspicion so his vote won't be heavily scruitinized D2 if meatpudding turns up green.

It's just impossible for him not to even MENTION that I pushed for a lynch on a player for being deadweight and being FINE with a mislynch if that happens, if that's why he's so bent on voting Cats. It's just ridiculously impossible, like holy shit.

I never changed my general opinion of MysteryMeat. However, he's sort of looking frantic at this point, so I'm considering changing my vote back. I don't like changing my vote back and forth so I'm waiting until a conclusion is being reached.

On June 23 2014 12:00 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:47 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:27 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just from rereading the thread over my town reads would be

Scott: He votes on himself because he feels that the game isn't for him. Then thanks me for telling him to keep fighting if he was town. If Scott was mafia, I doubt he would be feeling alone, as he would have a mafia qt to post in and ask for advice. He hasn't contributed a whole lot but i really think he is town.

King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

The_Templar:
Says scumhunting isn't essential day 1, doesn't like scott, and is willing to lynch him because he has no scum read.

Like the reason i don't like CATS, Tolkien, is because they seem very ready to lynch people, and throwing scum on people to sway town into voting on them. (this isn't OMGUS) but teemu on the other hand votes on people to get reactions and reads. I think there is a very clear distinction. I usually don't pay too much attention, but in this case imo the distinction is pretty clear.

Teemu: I really like teemu, he's pushing for information, and getting reads. He thinks pudding is scum, which i think pudding could be town.

Nydus: Hasn't posted a ton recently but i think he's pretty town. The way i distinguish between his town and mafia play is how objective he is to the game. When he's town his reads are more selfish and when he's mafia his reads are really objective.

Tolkien: i honestly don't like, once again not for OMGUS, but he wants to lynch lurkers, which i don't agree with. If they keep on lurking they could get modkilled. He also is telling blue roles how to play the game. There is more than one way to play mafia, and i think he's just fishing for roles to kill in the night honestly. I also don't like the fact that when people talked about my inconsistency on cat's and tolkien. No one really mentioned the fact that there could be a relationship between tolkien and I. IMO if mafia are going to go for an inconsitancy like that it happens for a reason.

HARUH: Leaning pretty town. I like his reads early on in the game.

Epishade: I don't know atm. I get this odd feeling like he's playing slightly different than he was the last time i played with him when he was town. Don't know what this really means, but could potentially expand on this on d2 if im alive.

in the mafia fence pile
jabber
glowingbear (first post striked me as really odd)
pudding (said he could be town, but i think teemu is pretty town and teemu is pretty good at finding mafia)

Why are me and Tolkien on your townpile if you don't like either of us?

Where was Tolkien telling blue roles how to play the game and how is that scummy?

What is this possible relationship between you and Tolkien?

Can you elaborate on why the people in your mafia pile are scummy?

I'm going to help meat a bit and answer that relationship question. This post was the initial lynch post, where tolkien did something similar to what I did later (although I've retracted mine in favor of the still very scummy meatpudding)

I'm sorry but i really can't see what you're getting at. How does that post help explain a relationship between MM and Tolkien?

It got the town riled up against MM for the most part. It also caused my vote to change to MM to pressure him, which made him come out and start defending himself. Now MM is defending himself from Tolkien among other people.

This thread has gotten really, really weird.

But as i read it he said that he didn't comment on Tolkien proposing a lurker lynch because they may have a "relationship" implying masons...After he claimed VT. And now he's saying that he never read the post at all. I didn't misread it did i?

They're not masons. Tolkien instigated most of the train on MM
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On June 23 2014 12:16 meatpudding wrote:
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Teemu

On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?


Way to jump to conclusions. Anyway I pointed this out before that I was introducing myself and responding to Templar.

On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Teemu was really quick to start pushing on me at the start and yet 20 mins later making town lean calls on Templar.

On June 21 2014 22:59 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:53 The_Templar wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:48 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:57 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:48 HaruRH wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:41 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Hello people, i have a stupid username.

I've been playing mafia on OMGUS (TL's evil twin that's locked in the basement and fed a bucket of fish heads every night) since last october. Between then and now i was somehow voted season 2 best town so if my play is terrible it's pretty much a certainty that i'm scum.


Yea your scum play is horrible, to the extent of nearly being modkilled. I hope you aren't going to afk :/

I should be more active this game because i actually know how to play town. I was quiet in my last game because i have no idea what i'm doing as scum.

How was i nearly modkilled in that game?


How DO you play town? Let's talk!

Do you read into tone perhaps? Who do you like/dislike?

There's this guy named Teemursu who's taking things really seriously at the beginning of day 1.

In all seriousness, no reads for me yet as we've just introduced each other. Meatpudding's joke seemed a bit… random, (trying to get things friendly between everyone perhaps?) but I don't think it really means anything.


Yeah, I'm probably the most serious person you'll meet on this forum.

I actually kinda like this read. Feels like it's coming from a towny perspective. We -are- all new here and some are playing for the first time, and your read has that ring to it.





On June 21 2014 23:09 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 23:04 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?


Weird that you say that before meatpudding even reacts?

But I'm with Templar, too early for me to get any reads.


Might've been too early, agreed. I'm probably too used to video mafia's speed. I did get a towny vibe from Templar, though, so it's not like I came out empty-handed.


To me, Teemu's willingness to make these reads based on one or two posts seems hasty and irrational. I (semi-seriously) pointed out that Teemu and Templar are likely a scum team trying to make false headway. (Hence my reading of Templar's future posts from that perspective.)

On June 21 2014 23:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?

It's too early for me to have any reads. Seeing as this is Meatpudding's first game i don't think his post was alignment indicative but if he doesn't contribute anything he'll be a good lynch regardless of his alignment.


On June 21 2014 23:52 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 23:31 meatpudding wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:09 meatpudding wrote:
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On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Since you're wondering, it was a direct response to this post. I usually browse custom maps but don't often post there.

What was a direct response to that post?


This post was a response to Templar:

On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.


But I was just describing my general forum attitude. Since I signed up to play I intend to contribute of course.

Teemu was quick to call me out though, but he backed up Templar straight away. Two scum trying to blend in with town?

TheKingOfCats tries to lynch me as well, but I think he's town trying to prod me if I'm mafia.


So I didn't specifically call you out. Apparently I got a reaction anyway, which is good, considering I just said I only pinged you out.

I don't feel like TheKingOfCats is trying to lynch you at all, and I'm not sure how I should read your defensiveness about that (new player/mafia being pushed). He did give a fence read on you though. Like, It's obvious that we should lynch people who don't contribute at all. He's someone I'm going to keep my eye on.


Teemu trying to cover his tracks? Who was the first to suggest I should be lynched? - Teemu. I think that he plays too well to make mistakes like this. The only thing that could excuse him is because I'm a new player, his reads are wrong because I'm not playing the normal way.

On June 21 2014 19:36 Teemursu wrote:
Hey guys, I'm here to stomp mafia.

Lynch my day 1 scum reads, and we're all good.

I'm in the middle of some video mafia. Hope some discussion is on the way once I come back.

My name (Teemu) comes from my mum & dad.



On June 22 2014 12:46 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 22 2014 08:20 The_Templar wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
There really isn't much to say right now.

All I can say is that Teemursu is my only solid read for me atm (as town). While Nydus has played with him before and says this behavior is alignment-null, he's instigating the scumhunting that town sorely needs early D1. As a result, I would peg him as town (or at least, a non-viable D1 lynch).

That being said, I don't agree with any of the early lynch candidates thus far (as in, I don't have a strong enough read on any of them currently), and would rather lynch a lurker at this point in time. That includes scott, because his post was pretty much a non-response.


Of Cats or meatpudding, if I had to choose a D1 lynch atm, I'd vote meatpudding solely based on thread contribution.


-Teemu agrees with me and "thinks I'm town", which I always appreciate, but he "thinks I'm town". He could be a town, or a mafia trying to make both of us or just me look mafia. Again, completely ambiguous and I'm not sure.

My general impression of mafia players in my limited experience is that they work to distance themselves as much as possible. I personally do not read too much into it atm; without a flip it's speculation.

Personally, I don't know about Teemu, partly because I don't know about video mafia. I'm going to research this further. Scum-hunting isn't essential on day 1; I think it's more of a developing point in the game but that's just my two cents.

I don't like Scott's posts very much.


It's where I am the strongest in my town play.

Anyway, Cats is finally asking some better questions, so I am moving my focus on ## VOTE Meatpudding

I'm not sure about the Scott bandwagon, but pressuring him is not a bad idea.


Teemu would have us believe that his D1 scum reads are infallible. So far he has only made one strong call to mafia (guess who) which seems suspicious to me. He has basically stopped pressuring now that he has made up his mind, and that I have helped convince half of town that I may be scum anyway. Easy lynch for Teemu.

On June 22 2014 21:09 Teemursu wrote:
Meatpudding, I don't even know who Templar is..?

I get a lot of reads based on people's interaction with me (how they accuse me, etc), and so far yours has been very poor. You keep throwing scum at me without giving any explanation or backing up. Which of my reads have been off and how? Do you disagree with some or do you disagree with my reasons for my reads?

Honestly, I'm only trying to give you a chance to project town here by talking about reads, but you keep failing at it, which is making you my top scum read.

Speaking of throwing scum, people have been throwing scum at Scott, and I really wish he didn't become unmotivated as town because mafia pushed on him. >_>



Not the strongest case, all things considered.

Cool, but can you please offer your insight on you vs MM? Teemu isn't quite relevant right now I think.
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#722
On June 23 2014 12:31 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Hobbitus, if you agree with my cop checks then why are you voting to lynch me? Also nydus is hopping on the bandwagon. Says meatpudding is scummy, and mentions that i'm sheeping his reads but doesn't vote for the scummy person...

1. I need to brush up on my terminology, no idea what sheeping is :\
2. What cop checks? Are you referring to the list of people you think are mafia?
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June 23 2014 03:41 GMT
#731
On June 23 2014 12:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Kill MM1 pls. For the sake of my sanity and braincells. i dont even

Yeah, MM1 is making less and less sense as this goes on. And meatpudding has shown a willingness to post what he thinks later (although why is he avoiding the god damned issue of him vs MM, I have no idea).

##Unvote

##Vote: MysteryMeat1


Now that I have physically changed my vote due to nothing in particular changing, I'd like to note that meatpudding is dodging the issue.
On June 23 2014 12:31 meatpudding wrote:
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On June 23 2014 12:26 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 12:16 meatpudding wrote:
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Teemu

On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?


Way to jump to conclusions. Anyway I pointed this out before that I was introducing myself and responding to Templar.

On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Teemu was really quick to start pushing on me at the start and yet 20 mins later making town lean calls on Templar.

On June 21 2014 22:59 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:53 The_Templar wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:48 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:57 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:48 HaruRH wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:41 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Hello people, i have a stupid username.

I've been playing mafia on OMGUS (TL's evil twin that's locked in the basement and fed a bucket of fish heads every night) since last october. Between then and now i was somehow voted season 2 best town so if my play is terrible it's pretty much a certainty that i'm scum.


Yea your scum play is horrible, to the extent of nearly being modkilled. I hope you aren't going to afk :/

I should be more active this game because i actually know how to play town. I was quiet in my last game because i have no idea what i'm doing as scum.

How was i nearly modkilled in that game?


How DO you play town? Let's talk!

Do you read into tone perhaps? Who do you like/dislike?

There's this guy named Teemursu who's taking things really seriously at the beginning of day 1.

In all seriousness, no reads for me yet as we've just introduced each other. Meatpudding's joke seemed a bit… random, (trying to get things friendly between everyone perhaps?) but I don't think it really means anything.


Yeah, I'm probably the most serious person you'll meet on this forum.

I actually kinda like this read. Feels like it's coming from a towny perspective. We -are- all new here and some are playing for the first time, and your read has that ring to it.





On June 21 2014 23:09 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 23:04 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?


Weird that you say that before meatpudding even reacts?

But I'm with Templar, too early for me to get any reads.


Might've been too early, agreed. I'm probably too used to video mafia's speed. I did get a towny vibe from Templar, though, so it's not like I came out empty-handed.


To me, Teemu's willingness to make these reads based on one or two posts seems hasty and irrational. I (semi-seriously) pointed out that Teemu and Templar are likely a scum team trying to make false headway. (Hence my reading of Templar's future posts from that perspective.)

On June 21 2014 23:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?

It's too early for me to have any reads. Seeing as this is Meatpudding's first game i don't think his post was alignment indicative but if he doesn't contribute anything he'll be a good lynch regardless of his alignment.


On June 21 2014 23:52 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 23:31 meatpudding wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:09 meatpudding wrote:
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On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Since you're wondering, it was a direct response to this post. I usually browse custom maps but don't often post there.

What was a direct response to that post?


This post was a response to Templar:

On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.


But I was just describing my general forum attitude. Since I signed up to play I intend to contribute of course.

Teemu was quick to call me out though, but he backed up Templar straight away. Two scum trying to blend in with town?

TheKingOfCats tries to lynch me as well, but I think he's town trying to prod me if I'm mafia.


So I didn't specifically call you out. Apparently I got a reaction anyway, which is good, considering I just said I only pinged you out.

I don't feel like TheKingOfCats is trying to lynch you at all, and I'm not sure how I should read your defensiveness about that (new player/mafia being pushed). He did give a fence read on you though. Like, It's obvious that we should lynch people who don't contribute at all. He's someone I'm going to keep my eye on.


Teemu trying to cover his tracks? Who was the first to suggest I should be lynched? - Teemu. I think that he plays too well to make mistakes like this. The only thing that could excuse him is because I'm a new player, his reads are wrong because I'm not playing the normal way.

On June 21 2014 19:36 Teemursu wrote:
Hey guys, I'm here to stomp mafia.

Lynch my day 1 scum reads, and we're all good.

I'm in the middle of some video mafia. Hope some discussion is on the way once I come back.

My name (Teemu) comes from my mum & dad.



On June 22 2014 12:46 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 22 2014 08:20 The_Templar wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
There really isn't much to say right now.

All I can say is that Teemursu is my only solid read for me atm (as town). While Nydus has played with him before and says this behavior is alignment-null, he's instigating the scumhunting that town sorely needs early D1. As a result, I would peg him as town (or at least, a non-viable D1 lynch).

That being said, I don't agree with any of the early lynch candidates thus far (as in, I don't have a strong enough read on any of them currently), and would rather lynch a lurker at this point in time. That includes scott, because his post was pretty much a non-response.


Of Cats or meatpudding, if I had to choose a D1 lynch atm, I'd vote meatpudding solely based on thread contribution.


-Teemu agrees with me and "thinks I'm town", which I always appreciate, but he "thinks I'm town". He could be a town, or a mafia trying to make both of us or just me look mafia. Again, completely ambiguous and I'm not sure.

My general impression of mafia players in my limited experience is that they work to distance themselves as much as possible. I personally do not read too much into it atm; without a flip it's speculation.

Personally, I don't know about Teemu, partly because I don't know about video mafia. I'm going to research this further. Scum-hunting isn't essential on day 1; I think it's more of a developing point in the game but that's just my two cents.

I don't like Scott's posts very much.


It's where I am the strongest in my town play.

Anyway, Cats is finally asking some better questions, so I am moving my focus on ## VOTE Meatpudding

I'm not sure about the Scott bandwagon, but pressuring him is not a bad idea.


Teemu would have us believe that his D1 scum reads are infallible. So far he has only made one strong call to mafia (guess who) which seems suspicious to me. He has basically stopped pressuring now that he has made up his mind, and that I have helped convince half of town that I may be scum anyway. Easy lynch for Teemu.

On June 22 2014 21:09 Teemursu wrote:
Meatpudding, I don't even know who Templar is..?

I get a lot of reads based on people's interaction with me (how they accuse me, etc), and so far yours has been very poor. You keep throwing scum at me without giving any explanation or backing up. Which of my reads have been off and how? Do you disagree with some or do you disagree with my reasons for my reads?

Honestly, I'm only trying to give you a chance to project town here by talking about reads, but you keep failing at it, which is making you my top scum read.

Speaking of throwing scum, people have been throwing scum at Scott, and I really wish he didn't become unmotivated as town because mafia pushed on him. >_>



Not the strongest case, all things considered.

Cool, but can you please offer your insight on you vs MM? Teemu isn't quite relevant right now I think.


Yes, I know. I also want to write up my thoughts on you and Cats. I'm keeping up with the thread but I don't have a read on MM. Other than what Tolkien said about lurkers being scum, I don't know. I have the net 30mins free but only so much I can type. I'm basically voting to save myself and help town.

"I want to talk about you and Cats even though the important players right now are me, tolkien and MM. I don't really have anything to say about it."
Well dammit, you only have 30 minutes so you really want to talk about those other players instead of focusing on stuff that will only be relevant for the next 30 minutes, when what you're most interested in can wait? Why are you doing this?

I still changed my vote because he is still coherent. If he's dodging issues in the future, we can work it out then.
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#733
On June 23 2014 12:41 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Where is Haru, where is Teemo.

I'm going to guess they're asleep (Haru would be sleeping pretty late though…). It's like 6 am where teemu (not teemo -.-) is.
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#738
On June 23 2014 12:41 Hobbitus wrote:
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On June 23 2014 12:38 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 23 2014 12:31 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Hobbitus, if you agree with my cop checks then why are you voting to lynch me? Also nydus is hopping on the bandwagon. Says meatpudding is scummy, and mentions that i'm sheeping his reads but doesn't vote for the scummy person...


I am very confused about you in general. I don't know why you won't give a read on me. I don't understand your play style. The only way I see to get clarification is to lynch you for information because everything you say/do is contradictory, irrelevant or random, your flip will not be.

Your reads are good, but your arguments are just weird o_0


Actually, let me revise that. I think that your suggestions for a cop check are good, not that all three of them are scum. I think those are three very good choices to know the alignment of, given their position in this clusterfuck.


His most recent cop checks are cats, tolkien, and jabberwock? Those are pretty solid checks yeah.
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#742
Oh dammit. Meatpudding, please vote someone. I don't want to lose you before you've got all of your reads in (and I'd rather not lose 4 people on day 1…)

Actually, which of those 3 non-voters would be replaced if nothing changes in the next 12 minutes?
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#752
On June 23 2014 12:55 Hobbitus wrote:
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On June 23 2014 12:52 meatpudding wrote:

I kind of skimmed it. Seems like your case was just based around how he claimed to have read you? He seems to have drawn conclusions without much interaction. I certainly don't get what Tolkien and MM have to do with one another, and Tolkien is taking steps as far away from him as possible.

Anyway I can't follow MM's process at all. I'm not sure, but I hope you guys know what you're doing.

##Vote: MysteryMeat1


What is the purpose of this post exactly?
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June 23 2014 03:57 GMT
#754
On June 23 2014 12:56 The_Templar wrote:
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On June 23 2014 12:55 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 23 2014 12:52 meatpudding wrote:

I kind of skimmed it. Seems like your case was just based around how he claimed to have read you? He seems to have drawn conclusions without much interaction. I certainly don't get what Tolkien and MM have to do with one another, and Tolkien is taking steps as far away from him as possible.

Anyway I can't follow MM's process at all. I'm not sure, but I hope you guys know what you're doing.

##Vote: MysteryMeat1


What is the purpose of this post exactly?

edit: the post you have just made
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#759
On June 23 2014 12:57 HaruRH wrote:
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On June 23 2014 12:50 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
i said my reads weren't based on OMGUS, and there are people voting for me that i think are town.


You and meatpudding have a case of tunnel vision. Or what I call OMGUS.

1) scumreads the first few on your wagons
MP: Templar/teemu/me
MM: Nydus/cat

2) votes on 'scumreads' which comes with a near fabricated read.

Agreed with Haru here, you both need to work on considering whether other people might independently be doing something unusual/fishy. And if your initial scum reads seem like they're accurate, then use them.

I'm off to bed, see you all in the morning after the flips.
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#760
On June 23 2014 12:58 meatpudding wrote:
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On June 23 2014 12:57 Lord Tolkien wrote:
But no seriously you're fine, just...you need to work on making sense. If you are town, such a glaring discrepancy in analysis like what you did will get you punished unless it was deliberate (and you'll get punished for that too, like I learned my last newbie mafia gaem <_< ). And you really need to work on making sense. Because I still can't follow your line of thinking in your defense afterwards.

If you're scum, die.


Is this at me?

MM1 I think
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#840
On June 23 2014 12:31 meatpudding wrote:
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On June 23 2014 12:26 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 12:16 meatpudding wrote:
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Teemu

On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?


Way to jump to conclusions. Anyway I pointed this out before that I was introducing myself and responding to Templar.

On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Teemu was really quick to start pushing on me at the start and yet 20 mins later making town lean calls on Templar.

On June 21 2014 22:59 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:53 The_Templar wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:48 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:57 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:48 HaruRH wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:41 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Hello people, i have a stupid username.

I've been playing mafia on OMGUS (TL's evil twin that's locked in the basement and fed a bucket of fish heads every night) since last october. Between then and now i was somehow voted season 2 best town so if my play is terrible it's pretty much a certainty that i'm scum.


Yea your scum play is horrible, to the extent of nearly being modkilled. I hope you aren't going to afk :/

I should be more active this game because i actually know how to play town. I was quiet in my last game because i have no idea what i'm doing as scum.

How was i nearly modkilled in that game?


How DO you play town? Let's talk!

Do you read into tone perhaps? Who do you like/dislike?

There's this guy named Teemursu who's taking things really seriously at the beginning of day 1.

In all seriousness, no reads for me yet as we've just introduced each other. Meatpudding's joke seemed a bit… random, (trying to get things friendly between everyone perhaps?) but I don't think it really means anything.


Yeah, I'm probably the most serious person you'll meet on this forum.

I actually kinda like this read. Feels like it's coming from a towny perspective. We -are- all new here and some are playing for the first time, and your read has that ring to it.





On June 21 2014 23:09 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 23:04 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?


Weird that you say that before meatpudding even reacts?

But I'm with Templar, too early for me to get any reads.


Might've been too early, agreed. I'm probably too used to video mafia's speed. I did get a towny vibe from Templar, though, so it's not like I came out empty-handed.


To me, Teemu's willingness to make these reads based on one or two posts seems hasty and irrational. I (semi-seriously) pointed out that Teemu and Templar are likely a scum team trying to make false headway. (Hence my reading of Templar's future posts from that perspective.)

On June 21 2014 23:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?

It's too early for me to have any reads. Seeing as this is Meatpudding's first game i don't think his post was alignment indicative but if he doesn't contribute anything he'll be a good lynch regardless of his alignment.


On June 21 2014 23:52 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 23:31 meatpudding wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:09 meatpudding wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Since you're wondering, it was a direct response to this post. I usually browse custom maps but don't often post there.

What was a direct response to that post?


This post was a response to Templar:

On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.


But I was just describing my general forum attitude. Since I signed up to play I intend to contribute of course.

Teemu was quick to call me out though, but he backed up Templar straight away. Two scum trying to blend in with town?

TheKingOfCats tries to lynch me as well, but I think he's town trying to prod me if I'm mafia.


So I didn't specifically call you out. Apparently I got a reaction anyway, which is good, considering I just said I only pinged you out.

I don't feel like TheKingOfCats is trying to lynch you at all, and I'm not sure how I should read your defensiveness about that (new player/mafia being pushed). He did give a fence read on you though. Like, It's obvious that we should lynch people who don't contribute at all. He's someone I'm going to keep my eye on.


Teemu trying to cover his tracks? Who was the first to suggest I should be lynched? - Teemu. I think that he plays too well to make mistakes like this. The only thing that could excuse him is because I'm a new player, his reads are wrong because I'm not playing the normal way.

On June 21 2014 19:36 Teemursu wrote:
Hey guys, I'm here to stomp mafia.

Lynch my day 1 scum reads, and we're all good.

I'm in the middle of some video mafia. Hope some discussion is on the way once I come back.

My name (Teemu) comes from my mum & dad.



On June 22 2014 12:46 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 22 2014 08:20 The_Templar wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
There really isn't much to say right now.

All I can say is that Teemursu is my only solid read for me atm (as town). While Nydus has played with him before and says this behavior is alignment-null, he's instigating the scumhunting that town sorely needs early D1. As a result, I would peg him as town (or at least, a non-viable D1 lynch).

That being said, I don't agree with any of the early lynch candidates thus far (as in, I don't have a strong enough read on any of them currently), and would rather lynch a lurker at this point in time. That includes scott, because his post was pretty much a non-response.


Of Cats or meatpudding, if I had to choose a D1 lynch atm, I'd vote meatpudding solely based on thread contribution.


-Teemu agrees with me and "thinks I'm town", which I always appreciate, but he "thinks I'm town". He could be a town, or a mafia trying to make both of us or just me look mafia. Again, completely ambiguous and I'm not sure.

My general impression of mafia players in my limited experience is that they work to distance themselves as much as possible. I personally do not read too much into it atm; without a flip it's speculation.

Personally, I don't know about Teemu, partly because I don't know about video mafia. I'm going to research this further. Scum-hunting isn't essential on day 1; I think it's more of a developing point in the game but that's just my two cents.

I don't like Scott's posts very much.


It's where I am the strongest in my town play.

Anyway, Cats is finally asking some better questions, so I am moving my focus on ## VOTE Meatpudding

I'm not sure about the Scott bandwagon, but pressuring him is not a bad idea.


Teemu would have us believe that his D1 scum reads are infallible. So far he has only made one strong call to mafia (guess who) which seems suspicious to me. He has basically stopped pressuring now that he has made up his mind, and that I have helped convince half of town that I may be scum anyway. Easy lynch for Teemu.

On June 22 2014 21:09 Teemursu wrote:
Meatpudding, I don't even know who Templar is..?

I get a lot of reads based on people's interaction with me (how they accuse me, etc), and so far yours has been very poor. You keep throwing scum at me without giving any explanation or backing up. Which of my reads have been off and how? Do you disagree with some or do you disagree with my reasons for my reads?

Honestly, I'm only trying to give you a chance to project town here by talking about reads, but you keep failing at it, which is making you my top scum read.

Speaking of throwing scum, people have been throwing scum at Scott, and I really wish he didn't become unmotivated as town because mafia pushed on him. >_>



Not the strongest case, all things considered.

Cool, but can you please offer your insight on you vs MM? Teemu isn't quite relevant right now I think.


Yes, I know. I also want to write up my thoughts on you and Cats. I'm keeping up with the thread but I don't have a read on MM. Other than what Tolkien said about lurkers being scum, I don't know. I have the net 30mins free but only so much I can type. I'm basically voting to save myself and help town.

Since you didn't do anything about you and MM, can I see these thoughts or are you going to do nothing this night?
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