Newbie Mini Mafia LVI - Page 13

On July 02 2014 12:47 Amiko wrote:

Vote Count – Day 4

The_Templar (6): GlowingBear, Epishade, Hobbitus, mtamburini, GlowingBear, Tehpoofter, The_Templar
HaruRH (0): Hobbitus
Tehpoofter (0): HaruRH, GlowingBear
Mtamburini (1): Tehpoofter, HaruRH, The_Templar
Hobbitus (0): The_Templar

Not voting (0): The vast emptiness of space

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Currently, The_Templar is set to be lynched with 6 votes.
As a reminder for resolving ties - a player becomes the new lynch target when that player has more votes than anyone else.

Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!
Day 4 will end in (04:00 GMT (+00:00)).

On July 02 2014 12:52 The_Templar wrote:

Tehpoofter suspects that everyone is mafia.
This setup actually has 5 mafia, the game ended a while ago and the host is trolling you guys

On July 05 2014 13:23 The_Templar wrote:
I claimed being jailed N1, I could have said I was jailor looking to look like a non-blue to the mafia

On July 06 2014 07:04 Amiko wrote:
More co-host thoughts:

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Coaching-Related Notes
In newbie games the use of coaches really varies. I always tended to try to talk with my coaches a lot, even to just share some of my current thoughts.
It’s up to players if they want to reveal their coach QT, but I’ll state that the coach usage was relatively low. Partly this is because of modkills & replacements (replacements had more experience, so didn’t have coaches).
As a co-host, I really enjoyed skimming Glowingbear’s CoachQT with Iamperfection. I don’t feel any of the coaches were bad (most players didn’t use their coaches much, if at all) but I give Iamperfection particular credit because (1) his coaching immediately encouraged his players to see vanilla town as a powerful role for town, and (2) he gave really thought-provoking answers without tying them into the game at all . To be more player-focused, I really felt GlowingBear’s play evolved a lot once Iamperfection asked open-ended questions like “What would be a scum mindset?” and helped think explain the idea as:



In this game, the mafia had a lot of presence on Day 1. Most players seemed to feel the scum players were towny – even the exceptions like meatpudding didn’t seem likely to push to lynch any mafia players as suspects. I really felt that this shift from GlowingBear (along with suspicions from GlowingBear and Epishade) was vital to build enough of a consensus to start lynching into the scumteam.

I don't say this as criticism of the players at all, but I'd really encourage you guys to engage your coaches when possible! You won't get direct answers, but sometimes they'll help you analyze some things in the game you might not have thought to analyze.

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Some Scumslips
I wasn't actively looking for scumslips, but I there were two things that caught my eye:

- Haru on Meatpudding
I mentioned above that coaches can help you analyze things you might not have thought about. I felt the players in this game did not really attempt to analyze Haru's cop claim. People didn't seem to look to consider whether the people he checked made sense, or whether he seemed to act in accordance with the only check he obtained.
So, Haru claimed to have copchecked meatpudding as green on Night 2.
But on day 3, he lists meatpudding in his top scumreads.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450895-newbie-mini-mafia-lvi?page=86#1719


- The_Templar on jabberwockzerg
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450895-newbie-mini-mafia-lvi?page=84#1666
This is arguably not a scumslip. But, The_Templar justifies putting jabberwockzerg as scummy because “Jabber has been more scummy recently” on page 84. The last time jabber had talked was on page 67 – he really hadn’t done anything recently, scummy or not. This isn’t as much of a direct red flag (maybe jabber is more scummy because he hasn’t been talking?) but it really looked like a fabricated read to me.

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