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On July 01 2014 23:38 Hobbitus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2014 11:57 GlowingBear wrote:
I'd rather lynch mtamburini than Templar tbh. Templar is at least participating Also, just note that Templar/Haru jumped on the mtam bandwagon after poof voted him and bear posted this. In b4 me posting this fact is tunneling. I didn't even notice that. I was just responding to your post.
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On July 01 2014 23:39 Hobbitus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2014 23:38 The_Templar wrote:On July 01 2014 23:35 Hobbitus wrote:On July 01 2014 22:58 The_Templar wrote: You very elegantly connected me and Haru, Hobbitus. It's amazing how you managed to pull off claiming that we were defending each other the whole game when I didn't require any defense until you attacked me, and even then, Haru only used that to push you instead of defending me. For some reason, you are both tunneling each other incessantly.
Now, if I'm reading this game correctly, mafia is pretty much sitting back and making sure they keep control of the EOD cycles. Who are these people, you may ask? Why, obviously Teemu (he's flipped), Tehpoofter, and mtam. I'm not sure I buy that the latter two are both mafia, but I'm positive at least one of them are, and their behaviors are extremely similar (except for mtam being very aggressive towards Haru).
I don't want to play with mtam if it reaches the end of game, so I'll vote him.
##Vote: mtamburini Haru is basically trying to discredit me, but won't commit to pushing me as scum because there is no good case to be made on me. Give me an argument on mtam other than "he's annoying." …Read my post again. I gave two arguments that were at least partially directed against mtam that weren't "he's annoying" What, that he's (1) lurking (2) until EOD? That's one point. In addition, I said I didn't want to play with him at the end of the game situation with 2 town/1 mafia or 3 town/1 mafia. Yeah that's a "he's annoying" but do you really want to be one of the last 3/4 players with him?
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On July 02 2014 01:10 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 12:54 Amiko wrote:Vote Count – Day 1 scott31337 (1): Lord Tolkein, The_Templar, scott31337Lord Tolkien (0): HaruRHTheKingOfTheCats (0): NydusHerMain, MysteryMeat1meatpudding (4): Teemursu, scott31337, HaruRH, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, Epishade, GlowingBear, MysteryMeat1, The_TemplarHaruRH (0): meatpuddingjabberwockzerg (0): HobbitusMysteryMeat1 (8): TheKingOfTheCats, Lord Tolkien, Epishade, Hobbitus, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, NydusHerMain, The_Templar, meatpuddingNot voting (2): Solar424, BlondeMocha Looking at the day1 ML I still strongly believe there is mafia between Epi Hobbitus Templar. Assuming that HaruH is the real cop then the only other mafia that could have voted on meat d1 is glowing bear splitting up the mafia votes as potentially 2/2 if there is 4. Im leaning towards HaruH being the real cop because he checked meat saw he was town and then pushed hard to lynch the peope who voted on him as well he also claimed he was going to check glowing bear. Regardless of Glowingbears allignement mafia have to roleblock (im assuming he was not jailed cause that would be dumb IMO as one of them would move on to the next day to lead) Sure you can say maybe meat was GF but he couldnt live for 2 days in a row and not die to mafia if he was confirmed. Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 13:01 Amiko wrote:Day 2 - Final Vote Count meatpudding (0): Teemursu, Hobbitus, The_Templar, GlowingBearNydusHerMain (3): Tehpoofter, Teemursu, TheKingOfTheCats, TheKingOfTheCats, mtamburiniGlowingBear (0): NydusHerMainTeemursu (2): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade Epishade (2): HaruRH, Teemursu, Hobbitus HaruRH (0): GlowingBearJabberwockzerg (2): Epishade, The_Templar, TheKingOfTheCats, GlowingBear mtamburini (2): HaruRH, NydusHerMainNot voting (1): Jabberwockzerg Still looking at Epi Hobbitus Templar and knowing that Teemu is mafia, Im more inclined to believe that mafia would bus eachother on that day so Im going to live in the world where Epi is town leaving me with Templar and Hobbitus as potential scum. With the possibilty of their still being 3 scum alive ill toss tehpoofter into the mix as a third mafia but at the bottom of the totenpole. Hobbitus changed his vote at EOD off of meatpudding to Epishade, from the prospective I was living in with Teemu being town for pulling off a town to vote someone else I cant 100% consider as I have been proven wrong that scum can do this. This just makes me believe Epi is more town and that mafia tried to hammer him EOD and hoped another town voted on him to get him lynched. Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 14:46 Amiko wrote:Day 3 - Final Vote Count The_Templar (2)GlowingBear, Hobbitus, mtamburini, Tehpoofter, mtamburini, Hobbitus Epishade (3): HaruRH, GlowingBear, HaruRH, The_Templar, TehPoofter, HaruRHMeatpudding (1): Epishade, Teemursu, mtamburiniTeemursu (3*): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade, GlowingBear, Epishade, GlowingBear Hobbitus (0): HaruRHHaruRH (0): Hobbitus, Epishade, TehPoofter, TehPoofter, GlowingBearmtamburini (0): TehPoofter, GlowingBear, HaruRH, EpishadeNot Voting (0): No one So yesterday votes are kinda telling that TEMPLAR NEED TO BE LYNCHED For one I strongly believe that Epi and Teemu cannot be scum together and Templar voted on EPI in a tied vote where Teemu flipped scum, Glowingbear being the last vote on Teemu I dont think can be scum as all he had to do was pull off and vote someone else and Epi wouldve been lynched. Again I know this theory has been disproven already but in the situation that we were in or couldve been in with it being LYLO I think mafia is more likely to go for the win rather than bus. Lets lynch Templar and then tomorrow we can hunt for more scum ##VOTE TEMPLAR ##Unvote
This is a much better post from you than I was expecting. You know, actually playing the game instead of bitching is a pretty good strategy.
However, I don't like that you pinpoint me as the only suspicious person in the vote. On day 2, Tehpoofter voted Nydus early on, and despite being extremely active during that day, simply did not ever change his vote. Yes, that looks worse in hindsight than it did in day 2, but then look at day 3. Poof does literally the opposite, stirring up confusing in the voting and trying to get people away from someone. At no point did he vote Teemu, and he voted Haru twice. If he is mafia, he ultimately failed to get people to not focus on Teemu.
Now, concerning Epishade… In day 2, Nydus/jabber had 3+ votes for the last hour and a half and Epishade and Teemu had 1 each. It is perfectly reasonable for them, if they were both scum, to vote each other in order to prevent any suspicion in case one of them gets lynched. Note also how Epishade unvoted Teemu and then revoted him after a brief vote on the slightly suspicious jabber, as if he wasn't sure.
Then in day 3, he kept unvoting Teemu AGAIN. At this point the voting was very chaotic and the host was having trouble keeping track of the votes so it's possible he made a mistake.
In addition, you completely ignore GlowingBear, who switches votes a lot in day 3 without too much explanation.
All of these are possibilities. However, I'm still inclined that one or two of you/Poofter/GlowingBear is more likely because of your previous inclination to keep things chaotic at the EOD.
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On July 02 2014 01:31 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 12:54 Amiko wrote:Vote Count – Day 1 scott31337 (1): Lord Tolkein, The_Templar, scott31337 Lord Tolkien (0): HaruRHTheKingOfTheCats (0): NydusHerMain, MysteryMeat1meatpudding (4): Teemursu, scott31337, HaruRH, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, Epishade, GlowingBear, MysteryMeat1, The_TemplarHaruRH (0): meatpuddingjabberwockzerg (0): HobbitusMysteryMeat1 (8): TheKingOfTheCats, Lord Tolkien, Epishade, Hobbitus, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, NydusHerMain, The_Templar, meatpuddingNot voting (2): Solar424, BlondeMocha Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 13:01 Amiko wrote:Day 2 - Final Vote Count meatpudding (0): Teemursu, Hobbitus, The_Templar, GlowingBearNydusHerMain (3): Tehpoofter, Teemursu, TheKingOfTheCats, TheKingOfTheCats, mtamburini GlowingBear (0): NydusHerMainTeemursu (2): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade Epishade (2): HaruRH, Teemursu, Hobbitus HaruRH (0): GlowingBearJabberwockzerg (2): Epishade, The_Templar, TheKingOfTheCats, GlowingBear mtamburini (2): HaruRH, NydusHerMainNot voting (1): Jabberwockzerg Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 14:46 Amiko wrote:Day 3 - Final Vote Count The_Templar (2)GlowingBear, Hobbitus, mtamburini, Tehpoofter, mtamburini, Hobbitus Epishade (3): HaruRH, GlowingBear, HaruRH, The_Templar, TehPoofter, HaruRHMeatpudding (1): Epishade, Teemursu, mtamburiniTeemursu (3*): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade, GlowingBear, Epishade, GlowingBear Hobbitus (0): HaruRHHaruRH (0): Hobbitus, Epishade, TehPoofter, TehPoofter, GlowingBearmtamburini (0): TehPoofter, GlowingBear, HaruRH, EpishadeNot Voting (0): No one It makes more sense IMO when mtam/scott is not greened out. Agreed. Assuming you're town in analysis posts like this is not helpful.
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On July 02 2014 01:35 mtamburini wrote: Im town so your going to have to accept it and move on. (1)
Also before day ended yesterday teemu asked if he could still switch his vote, the only person he couldve voted for to save his life wouldve been epi another reason for me to believe epi is town (2) (1) Lol (2) This is a really good point, actually. Never thought about that.
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On July 02 2014 01:38 mtamburini wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 02 2014 01:33 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2014 01:10 mtamburini wrote:On June 23 2014 12:54 Amiko wrote:Vote Count – Day 1 scott31337 (1): Lord Tolkein, The_Templar, scott31337Lord Tolkien (0): HaruRHTheKingOfTheCats (0): NydusHerMain, MysteryMeat1meatpudding (4): Teemursu, scott31337, HaruRH, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, Epishade, GlowingBear, MysteryMeat1, The_TemplarHaruRH (0): meatpuddingjabberwockzerg (0): HobbitusMysteryMeat1 (8): TheKingOfTheCats, Lord Tolkien, Epishade, Hobbitus, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, NydusHerMain, The_Templar, meatpuddingNot voting (2): Solar424, BlondeMocha Looking at the day1 ML I still strongly believe there is mafia between Epi Hobbitus Templar. Assuming that HaruH is the real cop then the only other mafia that could have voted on meat d1 is glowing bear splitting up the mafia votes as potentially 2/2 if there is 4. Im leaning towards HaruH being the real cop because he checked meat saw he was town and then pushed hard to lynch the peope who voted on him as well he also claimed he was going to check glowing bear. Regardless of Glowingbears allignement mafia have to roleblock (im assuming he was not jailed cause that would be dumb IMO as one of them would move on to the next day to lead) Sure you can say maybe meat was GF but he couldnt live for 2 days in a row and not die to mafia if he was confirmed. On June 26 2014 13:01 Amiko wrote:Day 2 - Final Vote Count meatpudding (0): Teemursu, Hobbitus, The_Templar, GlowingBearNydusHerMain (3): Tehpoofter, Teemursu, TheKingOfTheCats, TheKingOfTheCats, mtamburiniGlowingBear (0): NydusHerMainTeemursu (2): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade Epishade (2): HaruRH, Teemursu, Hobbitus HaruRH (0): GlowingBearJabberwockzerg (2): Epishade, The_Templar, TheKingOfTheCats, GlowingBear mtamburini (2): HaruRH, NydusHerMainNot voting (1): Jabberwockzerg Still looking at Epi Hobbitus Templar and knowing that Teemu is mafia, Im more inclined to believe that mafia would bus eachother on that day so Im going to live in the world where Epi is town leaving me with Templar and Hobbitus as potential scum. With the possibilty of their still being 3 scum alive ill toss tehpoofter into the mix as a third mafia but at the bottom of the totenpole. Hobbitus changed his vote at EOD off of meatpudding to Epishade, from the prospective I was living in with Teemu being town for pulling off a town to vote someone else I cant 100% consider as I have been proven wrong that scum can do this. This just makes me believe Epi is more town and that mafia tried to hammer him EOD and hoped another town voted on him to get him lynched. On June 29 2014 14:46 Amiko wrote:Day 3 - Final Vote Count The_Templar (2)GlowingBear, Hobbitus, mtamburini, Tehpoofter, mtamburini, Hobbitus Epishade (3): HaruRH, GlowingBear, HaruRH, The_Templar, TehPoofter, HaruRHMeatpudding (1): Epishade, Teemursu, mtamburiniTeemursu (3*): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade, GlowingBear, Epishade, GlowingBear Hobbitus (0): HaruRHHaruRH (0): Hobbitus, Epishade, TehPoofter, TehPoofter, GlowingBearmtamburini (0): TehPoofter, GlowingBear, HaruRH, EpishadeNot Voting (0): No one So yesterday votes are kinda telling that TEMPLAR NEED TO BE LYNCHED For one I strongly believe that Epi and Teemu cannot be scum together and Templar voted on EPI in a tied vote where Teemu flipped scum, Glowingbear being the last vote on Teemu I dont think can be scum as all he had to do was pull off and vote someone else and Epi wouldve been lynched. Again I know this theory has been disproven already but in the situation that we were in or couldve been in with it being LYLO I think mafia is more likely to go for the win rather than bus. Lets lynch Templar and then tomorrow we can hunt for more scum ##VOTE TEMPLAR ##UnvoteThis is a much better post from you than I was expecting. You know, actually playing the game instead of bitching is a pretty good strategy. However, I don't like that you pinpoint me as the only suspicious person in the vote. On day 2, Tehpoofter voted Nydus early on, and despite being extremely active during that day, simply did not ever change his vote. Yes, that looks worse in hindsight than it did in day 2, but then look at day 3. Poof does literally the opposite, stirring up confusing in the voting and trying to get people away from someone. At no point did he vote Teemu, and he voted Haru twice. If he is mafia, he ultimately failed to get people to not focus on Teemu. Now, concerning Epishade… In day 2, Nydus/jabber had 3+ votes for the last hour and a half and Epishade and Teemu had 1 each. It is perfectly reasonable for them, if they were both scum, to vote each other in order to prevent any suspicion in case one of them gets lynched. Note also how Epishade unvoted Teemu and then revoted him after a brief vote on the slightly suspicious jabber, as if he wasn't sure. Then in day 3, he kept unvoting Teemu AGAIN. At this point the voting was very chaotic and the host was having trouble keeping track of the votes so it's possible he made a mistake. In addition, you completely ignore GlowingBear, who switches votes a lot in day 3 without too much explanation. All of these are possibilities. However, I'm still inclined that one or two of you/Poofter/GlowingBear is more likely because of your previous inclination to keep things chaotic at the EOD. If you are going to call Bear scummy for that can you quote why you switched your vote so much on day 1 then? I already gave my reasons.
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On July 02 2014 01:39 mtamburini wrote: Also who are you unvoting from? LOL
Are you unvoting no one?
On July 01 2014 22:58 The_Templar wrote: You very elegantly connected me and Haru, Hobbitus. It's amazing how you managed to pull off claiming that we were defending each other the whole game when I didn't require any defense until you attacked me, and even then, Haru only used that to push you instead of defending me. For some reason, you are both tunneling each other incessantly.
Now, if I'm reading this game correctly, mafia is pretty much sitting back and making sure they keep control of the EOD cycles. Who are these people, you may ask? Why, obviously Teemu (he's flipped), Tehpoofter, and mtam. I'm not sure I buy that the latter two are both mafia, but I'm positive at least one of them are, and their behaviors are extremely similar (except for mtam being very aggressive towards Haru).
I don't want to play with mtam if it reaches the end of game, so I'll vote him.
##Vote: mtamburini I voted you. Then I unvoted.
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On July 02 2014 05:22 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2014 01:33 The_Templar wrote:On July 02 2014 01:10 mtamburini wrote:On June 23 2014 12:54 Amiko wrote:Vote Count – Day 1 scott31337 (1): Lord Tolkein, The_Templar, scott31337Lord Tolkien (0): HaruRHTheKingOfTheCats (0): NydusHerMain, MysteryMeat1meatpudding (4): Teemursu, scott31337, HaruRH, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, Epishade, GlowingBear, MysteryMeat1, The_TemplarHaruRH (0): meatpuddingjabberwockzerg (0): HobbitusMysteryMeat1 (8): TheKingOfTheCats, Lord Tolkien, Epishade, Hobbitus, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, NydusHerMain, The_Templar, meatpuddingNot voting (2): Solar424, BlondeMocha Looking at the day1 ML I still strongly believe there is mafia between Epi Hobbitus Templar. Assuming that HaruH is the real cop then the only other mafia that could have voted on meat d1 is glowing bear splitting up the mafia votes as potentially 2/2 if there is 4. Im leaning towards HaruH being the real cop because he checked meat saw he was town and then pushed hard to lynch the peope who voted on him as well he also claimed he was going to check glowing bear. Regardless of Glowingbears allignement mafia have to roleblock (im assuming he was not jailed cause that would be dumb IMO as one of them would move on to the next day to lead) Sure you can say maybe meat was GF but he couldnt live for 2 days in a row and not die to mafia if he was confirmed. On June 26 2014 13:01 Amiko wrote:Day 2 - Final Vote Count meatpudding (0): Teemursu, Hobbitus, The_Templar, GlowingBearNydusHerMain (3): Tehpoofter, Teemursu, TheKingOfTheCats, TheKingOfTheCats, mtamburiniGlowingBear (0): NydusHerMainTeemursu (2): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade Epishade (2): HaruRH, Teemursu, Hobbitus HaruRH (0): GlowingBearJabberwockzerg (2): Epishade, The_Templar, TheKingOfTheCats, GlowingBear mtamburini (2): HaruRH, NydusHerMainNot voting (1): Jabberwockzerg Still looking at Epi Hobbitus Templar and knowing that Teemu is mafia, Im more inclined to believe that mafia would bus eachother on that day so Im going to live in the world where Epi is town leaving me with Templar and Hobbitus as potential scum. With the possibilty of their still being 3 scum alive ill toss tehpoofter into the mix as a third mafia but at the bottom of the totenpole. Hobbitus changed his vote at EOD off of meatpudding to Epishade, from the prospective I was living in with Teemu being town for pulling off a town to vote someone else I cant 100% consider as I have been proven wrong that scum can do this. This just makes me believe Epi is more town and that mafia tried to hammer him EOD and hoped another town voted on him to get him lynched. On June 29 2014 14:46 Amiko wrote:Day 3 - Final Vote Count The_Templar (2)GlowingBear, Hobbitus, mtamburini, Tehpoofter, mtamburini, Hobbitus Epishade (3): HaruRH, GlowingBear, HaruRH, The_Templar, TehPoofter, HaruRHMeatpudding (1): Epishade, Teemursu, mtamburiniTeemursu (3*): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade, GlowingBear, Epishade, GlowingBear Hobbitus (0): HaruRHHaruRH (0): Hobbitus, Epishade, TehPoofter, TehPoofter, GlowingBearmtamburini (0): TehPoofter, GlowingBear, HaruRH, EpishadeNot Voting (0): No one So yesterday votes are kinda telling that TEMPLAR NEED TO BE LYNCHED For one I strongly believe that Epi and Teemu cannot be scum together and Templar voted on EPI in a tied vote where Teemu flipped scum, Glowingbear being the last vote on Teemu I dont think can be scum as all he had to do was pull off and vote someone else and Epi wouldve been lynched. Again I know this theory has been disproven already but in the situation that we were in or couldve been in with it being LYLO I think mafia is more likely to go for the win rather than bus. Lets lynch Templar and then tomorrow we can hunt for more scum ##VOTE TEMPLAR ##UnvoteThis is a much better post from you than I was expecting. You know, actually playing the game instead of bitching is a pretty good strategy. However, I don't like that you pinpoint me as the only suspicious person in the vote. On day 2, Tehpoofter voted Nydus early on, and despite being extremely active during that day, simply did not ever change his vote. Yes, that looks worse in hindsight than it did in day 2, but then look at day 3. Poof does literally the opposite, stirring up confusing in the voting and trying to get people away from someone. At no point did he vote Teemu, and he voted Haru twice. If he is mafia, he ultimately failed to get people to not focus on Teemu. Now, concerning Epishade… In day 2, Nydus/jabber had 3+ votes for the last hour and a half and Epishade and Teemu had 1 each. It is perfectly reasonable for them, if they were both scum, to vote each other in order to prevent any suspicion in case one of them gets lynched. Note also how Epishade unvoted Teemu and then revoted him after a brief vote on the slightly suspicious jabber, as if he wasn't sure. Then in day 3, he kept unvoting Teemu AGAIN. At this point the voting was very chaotic and the host was having trouble keeping track of the votes so it's possible he made a mistake. In addition, you completely ignore GlowingBear, who switches votes a lot in day 3 without too much explanation.All of these are possibilities. However, I'm still inclined that one or two of you/Poofter/GlowingBear is more likely because of your previous inclination to keep things chaotic at the EOD. Are you serious? (1) Are you still considering me as scum even after My decisive vote against Teemu and after I explained I was sheeping tehpoofter? (2) You put a good point concerning poof. I'll be reevaluating my read on him In case you haven't noticed, I've been suspecting everyone except the guy who claimed cop. (1) My reasoning on you is a bit thin, I will admit. Although, it was difficult to tell what was going on when you were switching votes along with Poof and Epishade and the host was not there. In fact, when I was reading through the next morning, I didn't realize Teemu was even close to being lynched until it was brought up. It's always possible that mafia's made a mistake; we all know the town has made a lot. (2) As I've said, I'm not so sure about Poof anymore. He comes in at EOD and starts being really active, and then disappears, and he never voted Teemu (understandable considering he was defending him all game).
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On July 02 2014 12:36 Tehpoofter wrote:HAI why not tambo? Because.
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On July 02 2014 12:37 Amiko wrote:Vote Count – Day 4 The_Templar (4): GlowingBear, Epishade, Hobbitus, mtamburini, GlowingBear HaruRH (0): HobbitusTehpoofter (0): HaruRH, GlowingBearMtamburini (2): Tehpoofter, HaruRH, The_TemplarHobbitus (1): The_Templar Not voting (0): The vast emptiness of space Currently, The_Templar is set to be lynched with 4 votes. As a reminder for resolving ties - a player becomes the new lynch target when that player has more votes than anyone else.
Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! Day 4 will end in (04:00 GMT (+00:00)). The vast emptiness of space will get modkilled, hope it votes someone
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On July 02 2014 12:43 Tehpoofter wrote: ##unvote ##Vote The_templar
^^The above vote is for literally no reason. Well you never know, everyone else could suddenly realize that I must be town and vote someone else.
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On July 02 2014 12:43 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2014 12:36 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 02 2014 12:35 The_Templar wrote: screw it ##Vote: Hobbitus HAI why not tambo? Cause im Town bitch Bitch please.
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By the way, I think I vastly prefer hosting to playing, less stress >.>
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##Unvote ##Vote: The_Templar
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On July 02 2014 12:44 Tehpoofter wrote: TEmplar is town going to lose by killing you?
Maybe
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On July 02 2014 12:45 Epishade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2014 12:44 The_Templar wrote: By the way, I think I vastly prefer hosting to playing, less stress >.> When have you hosted before? I'm co-hosting here.
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On July 02 2014 12:45 Tehpoofter wrote: HOW NERVOUS IS EVERYONE THAT THE PERSON CLAIMING COP AND THE GUY WERE VOTING ON ARE THE ONLY TWO NOT ON THIS WAGON?? WRONG. I'm on the wagon too.
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On July 02 2014 12:46 Tehpoofter wrote:NVM just the cop not on this now were good. Hold fast town Maybe he is asleep. It's 11:45am where he is though
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On July 02 2014 12:47 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2014 12:46 The_Templar wrote:On July 02 2014 12:45 Tehpoofter wrote: HOW NERVOUS IS EVERYONE THAT THE PERSON CLAIMING COP AND THE GUY WERE VOTING ON ARE THE ONLY TWO NOT ON THIS WAGON?? WRONG. I'm on the wagon too. I see that. Oh and the vast emptiness of space is not voting either. What's with that guy?
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