• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:44
CEST 02:44
KST 09:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)14ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo23Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) SC2 Planner - The StarCraft II Build Planner [TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th HomeStory Cup In Early July
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center BW General Discussion Battle cruiser feet vs Carrier fleet
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 15149 users

Handslaps and Fisticuff: A PYP Mini [M][T] - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 17 18 19 Next All
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 04 2014 16:12 GMT
#105
I bet exactly two players will get greedy and pick 1 1
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 04 2014 18:49 GMT
#109
Which numbers will you pick austin?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 04 2014 19:55 GMT
#111
The numbers game has already started
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 01:13 GMT
#134
Just for your information, I picked 5 4.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 01:21 GMT
#137
Random.org. It doesn't really matter what the numbers were. All that matters is that now everyone will pick around that
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 01:45 GMT
#143
I choose B.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 02:03 GMT
#147
A (lol)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 02:04 GMT
#148
On March 05 2014 10:56 marvellosity wrote:
guise

we actually have to lynch someone this cycle as well as do pyp things


We could always put our faith in random.org for that as well.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 11:44 GMT
#320
The only problem I have with rayn's plan is that Mafia could pretty easily narrow down who are the Detective, Medic and Jailkeeper (remove the KP roles from the possibilities, then the Mafia team members, and you already have a very good chance at hitting one of the most pro-town roles).

I guess it's still more beneficial to keep the KP roles in check and avoid rogue KP at obvious townies. Basically scum need to do town's bidding or claim scum (if they get KP roles which seems likely). It's obviously good if either of those options happen.

Also: Survivor should definitely claim ASAP. If there's a CC, then it's pretty obvious that the first claimer is Mafia (since Mafia would never sacrifice themselves for no good reason like that). If there's no CC, then it's pretty certain that he actually is the Survivor. All in all, I don't really see any reason for scum to fakeclaim Survivor at this point. Later on, yes, but not now. That's why Survivor should claim ASAP.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 11:50 GMT
#328
KP roles are one-shot though and the most important "town" roles can be used several times. And they purely benefit town and can't possibly kill townies.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 11:53 GMT
#331
Oh actually Vigilante has 2KP and Assassin has possibly 2KP. That makes them a bit more powerful indeed.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 11:59 GMT
#336
Yeah, it also eliminates some duplicates (and obviously it's more beneficial for town to "waste" as few roles as possible since almost certainly scum will each get a role anyways).

On March 05 2014 20:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
With my plan assassin/night vigi in mafia hands can't possibly have 2 KP.


How come?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:02 GMT
#338
On March 05 2014 20:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
haha.
Xatalos mafia.


On March 05 2014 20:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Survivor normally votes and does protown stuff early. Xata scum.


Also LOL
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:07 GMT
#341
Ahhh ok. I guess it's best to enforce a strict policy to prevent townies using YOLO KP. It would make sense to consider the KP as just additional lynches.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:23 GMT
#349
On March 05 2014 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote:
##vote: Xatalos

bcz scum.


If you say so.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:24 GMT
#350
By the way, I haven't actually picked my numbers yet, but I'm seriously considering the ones I "claimed" earlier. Mostly it was meant to gather reactions as well as to create some fun mindgames to play.

Well, it seems like only rayn and Oats really took the bait. I think this makes them both townier, since it would have, in fact, been pretty anti-town to pick my numbers right away (it would render any glorious upcoming plan pretty much useless). Also it's usually more towny to instantly take a hard stance. AND rayn likes to be more aggressive/reckless as town from my experience. marv's reaction was meh, pretty much null. I slightly disliked Artanis's reaction of soft-defending me. That seems like the classic "scummy reaction" of not really committing to any stance, but gaining slight favor in my eyes. Also I can never completely trust Artanis again after how I was fooled last time, it's too bad
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:28 GMT
#354
I can do that. Also, why would I lie about something like this that's easily verifiable? Just lol.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:31 GMT
#357
On March 05 2014 21:28 marvellosity wrote:
why would you make a dumb reaction test? Just lol.


Why not? It seemed like the best use of my limited time as I was going to sleep yesterday. Or I could have just played Artanis's adventure game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:34 GMT
#361
On March 05 2014 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Dude you are not really helping atm if you are town. There are a lot of things being talked about and the only things you managed to say is "btw i picked my numbers, suck it" which is anti-town as fuck and you did form some reads regarding it, and then you said "think there is a problem with the plan but the plan might also be good".

btw you must absolutely not pick the numbers you claimed, at least change one number to prove you are not bullshitting right here right now.


I said that I can support the plan but that it's not 100% good. I don't think that's really wishy-washy or anything. Just fact.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 05 2014 12:36 GMT
#363
On March 05 2014 21:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 21:31 Xatalos wrote:
On March 05 2014 21:28 marvellosity wrote:
why would you make a dumb reaction test? Just lol.


Why not? It seemed like the best use of my limited time as I was going to sleep yesterday. Or I could have just played Artanis's adventure game.

Because it gains next to nothing and only serves to confuse town on your motives rather than provide something tangibly useful.

In short you are saying "just lol" because you are perceiving something to be dumb, but you did a dumb thing in the first place, you just don't perceive it that way.

Maybe if you didn't do dumb things in the first place (if you're town) then people wouldn't draw incorrect conclusions based on what you said, hmm?


It's just the way I play. I like WIFOM and getting reactions out of players. I generally suck at reading a thread objectively and nailing the scumteam from just that.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 17 18 19 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 16m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft911
NeuroSwarm 176
ProTech157
Nina 97
RuFF_SC2 80
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3289
Rain 2955
Artosis 534
Shuttle 466
Leta 35
NaDa 14
Dota 2
capcasts311
canceldota142
League of Legends
JimRising 387
Counter-Strike
summit1g10547
Other Games
C9.Mang0672
shahzam541
Maynarde108
UpATreeSC88
Trikslyr69
Livibee33
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick917
BasetradeTV188
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 121
• davetesta20
• HeavenSC 20
• Mapu3
• mYiSmile11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra687
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
9h 16m
The PondCast
1d 9h
Douyu Cup 2020
2 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
OSC
2 days
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
Douyu Cup 2020
5 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
5 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.