EPTSo no gumshoe, i don't understand a single portion of that post.
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So no gumshoe, i don't understand a single portion of that post. | ||
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If you are town do so, please. | ||
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You may call me the worst mafia player ever if he is mafia in this game. | ||
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On February 27 2014 08:01 Toadesstern wrote: Deal. What do I have to say / what are you allowed to call me if he's town? Geript and Mocsta more scummy but bottom 3 is still too good odds to let this slip. Well we already know you are the worst mafia player ever soo...  j/k, idk, i don't care, i just know he is town for reasons i will not elaborate on. | ||
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On February 27 2014 08:11 Holyflare wrote: :O! i feel vunerable i am shocked nobody has even mentioned ange by the way, not even once i swear. even as a joke end day lynch for lulz? dat scummyness! I have mentioned her. She is confirmed town for D1. | ||
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On February 27 2014 08:13 TheChyz wrote: I think WoS and Toad are the most towny. On the flipside vivax is playing very overdefensive and he goes in his long post about WoS which I think was just more about trying to find something scummy and have people jump on it. It's fairly easy having a bias on someone being scum and being able to find some small scummy things but nothing he said seemed concrete. Also I don't like that he does not want to share his read on me. Also in bolded it just seems very manufactured and why would you not be willing to share a read on someone no matter what is happening to them. Especially if someone is being voted on quiet a bit, if you think they aren't scum, wouldn't you atleast look at him/her more to see why that is the case and make your case on it instead of ignoring it. It's like he is ok if town were to mislynch because he didn't want to take any pressure off me. Might be just me but it seemed hella weird. The Vivax part is interesting because he already saw how you did respond to pressure (which was you didn't). I don't get why he thinks you are under pressure since you yourself clerly didn't care about the pressure at all. | ||
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On February 27 2014 08:18 Cavalinho wrote: Because I died immediately last game. I'm going to try being much more measured instead of just posting shit and seeing what happens. But you were not posting shit. The town was shit and you were the most townie person in that game. There is no reason to not do anything you did in that game. | ||
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On February 27 2014 08:21 Vivax wrote: Imagine you're scum and a townie defends you thinking you're town. Imagine you're town and a townie defends you when you're not really at acute danger Imagine you're town and a scum defends you. All alternatives aren't really attractive except for the scum party involved, except when you're at realistic danger of being lynched, which you weren't. Shouting your townreads out loud without need only helps scum in picking their targets, for the nightkill and for lynches. They will know who they can push safely without facing resistance and who they have to NK. Besides, town shouldn't spend time circlejerking around why somebody is town in such situations, but why somebody is scum. Of course it's situational, and in your case I didn't feel the need to redeem you from anything to find scum. I simply didn't find you scummy like others did, and that's all town needs to know. Now this is not really what translates to clarity and transparent so i heavily disagree with this post. There is no reason why one should not give out townreads, especially with reasoning. I understand the "useless" part but if half of the players find someone scummy and you don't, there is no reason to do what you did, which is you said "TheChyz is not scum but i won't tell you why". You cut off the bad cases if you know better because it gives people a better read on you and if you are right it forces the town to focus on targets that are important. | ||
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Why i am townreading TheChyz is this post: On February 26 2014 17:02 TheChyz wrote: Just some stuff on you and WoS clogging up the thread with your discussion surrounding gumshoe. It just felt like it was going no where and more like an ego thing at the end (which if I remember correctly I think WoS sayed he kept his vote in spite or something along those lines). Also suki just rubbing me the wrong way with here weird defensiveness and interactions with mocsta. Not sure what but something from reading her filter just doesn't seem right. And somethings on mocsta but I have to re-read his filter to see what. Mostly I just remember his very jumpy nature from a target to another and his vote is very weak in my opinion. But nothing I think will lead anywhere atm and just something to maybe keep an eye What was going on at this point of the game was that he was accused of contributing nothing and just saying some half-arsed stuff. What does he do? He gives more half-arsed stuff, but he answers what he is asked for. I actually thought this post was really scummy because it's so goddamn wishy-washy, but then i thought to myself after he answered me on the "hunches" thing: Does this make sense from mafia perspective? No. If TheChyz was mafia he would know he is (correctly) under pressure. What would (especially new) mafia do in that situation. Well i would make damn sure my story sticks and i give precise answers and not some wishy-washy crap. In fact this post looks like he skimmed over my question and gave me an answer from top of his head, which i find REALLY unlike for him to do if he was mafia. Also his later responses to me regarding this support that. | ||
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Working that way gives town less information and more info is always better for town. Because this game is not about blues, it's about scumhunting (and townhunting is a part of scumhunting). | ||
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On February 27 2014 09:02 Vivax wrote: Did you compare gumshoe's meta to GSL? Feels a lot different to me. Agree on geript though. I'd throw WoS in there though, still gotta hear from ange7, and I wouldn't discount suki yet, but I still got to dive her filter. Did I miss anyone else? Well gumshoe has proven he is familiar with his meta and he just played scum with me in that game so he knows what i know. It's not impossible for him to intentionally "dumb down" his play from informed to "uninformed". yes suki is a questionmark aswell. | ||
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On February 27 2014 09:05 Vivax wrote: Rayn how confident are you that HF is town? Didn't like those questions he asked me back then. I felt like he wanted me to say obvious stuff. There is a certain pattern in how he operates as town which i have never seen him do as scum. I read the following games earlier on today: - Vengeful (town) - Titanic II (town) - Really small mini (town) - Survivor (scum) - TL Mafia LXIII (scum) - Shadow (scum) | ||
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Oh the answer, very confident, very very confident. | ||
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On February 27 2014 09:54 suki wrote: One thing. There are too many people being called out for scummy. Town is ina horrible atmosphere right now which indicates to me that scum are actively stirring shit up What? | ||
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