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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 16:44 GMT
#2312
On March 03 2014 01:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 01:35 gumshoe wrote:
On March 03 2014 01:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Gumshoe next after me ange please.


Just everyone voting me promise to to reread gumshoe after my flip.

ANd listen to rayn:
On February 28 2014 15:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe is scary. Like really scary and i would keep an eye on him. He's like scum kushm4sta way of right. It's like he is too right in calling JJD and suki scum together. I read pages 74-76 and my impression of gumshoe is "what the fucking hell, is this post-flip already??". Really, if you don't believe me read it. Either he is playing a towngame of his life and is just really right or he is too right and scum. Anyways would not lynch but instead listen to unless something really strange happens.

Especially the part where rayn notes that gumshoe is already setting me up as sukis scumbuddy before the flip.


WHY WOULD I SHOOT RAYN THEN. Good god Jar Jar T_T if your town your so bad at this game.

Huh? Why would you shoot someone who is getting suspicious of you and is capable of leading the town against you?

Is this a real fucking question?


Because that fucking frames me, you leave the people who are accusing you alive to imply their scum. You yourself said my death would make you look bad T_T
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 16:48 GMT
#2314
Your so bloody fond of looking at Gsl, look at the people, I shoot thrawn, and then it was going to be you. Hells not the people accusing me.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 16:49 GMT
#2315
On March 03 2014 01:48 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 01:44 gumshoe wrote:
On March 03 2014 01:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On March 03 2014 01:35 gumshoe wrote:
On March 03 2014 01:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Gumshoe next after me ange please.


Just everyone voting me promise to to reread gumshoe after my flip.

ANd listen to rayn:
On February 28 2014 15:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe is scary. Like really scary and i would keep an eye on him. He's like scum kushm4sta way of right. It's like he is too right in calling JJD and suki scum together. I read pages 74-76 and my impression of gumshoe is "what the fucking hell, is this post-flip already??". Really, if you don't believe me read it. Either he is playing a towngame of his life and is just really right or he is too right and scum. Anyways would not lynch but instead listen to unless something really strange happens.

Especially the part where rayn notes that gumshoe is already setting me up as sukis scumbuddy before the flip.


WHY WOULD I SHOOT RAYN THEN. Good god Jar Jar T_T if your town your so bad at this game.

Huh? Why would you shoot someone who is getting suspicious of you and is capable of leading the town against you?

Is this a real fucking question?


Because that fucking frames me, you leave the people who are accusing you alive to imply their scum. You yourself said my death would make you look bad T_T
Rayn wasn't Fn scum cmon. And really it frames you? How's that working out? How many votes do you have?

Rayn wasn't screaming to high heavens that you were scum. He was just starting to suspect you.


So when he dies, that makes me looks good? No, the bloody opposite, it's just this town isnt stupid enough to think I'd shoot someone who starts accusing me.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 16:51 GMT
#2316
Also, what does the result have to do with scums motivation for doing things in the first place? Are they psychic? Do they know how everything plays out? Just because things didnt go according to your plan doesn't mean you never made that plan to begin with.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 17:10 GMT
#2325
For those claiming Jar would not let the shot go through, here are Qoutes form Vivax on night 1.

Cuz I'm running out of alternatives for ppl being scum. I'm basically at gum, geript, Toad, JJD atm and I explained why JJD is somewhat unlikely.


The one you want me to touch upon is that I think JJD wouldn't go all out and simply call her town when being poked for it

Gumshoe I'm not scum and if you didn't realize it by now regardless of the claim then I fear that your JJD read is equally bad


Gum, JJD just brought up a strong point which illustrates why you brought yourself into a situation where you could only bus if you are scum.


If anything, Vivax was more likely to shoot me (which is exactly what I wanted) rather then Jar Jar. It was a pretty safe bet for him to let the shot go through.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 17:13 GMT
#2327
On March 03 2014 02:01 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 01:43 gumshoe wrote:
I dont think my reads are infalible
Whaaa....? What about Moc? And Me? And Suki?

Did you forget your persona this game and think you were town for a second?


Shut the fuck up XD I've had nam flash backs concerning Basterd mafia, its shook my faith, but your doing a good job keeping me resolved : P
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 17:16 GMT
#2329
Like, Toad was able to infer from less that Vivax wasnt going to shoot him (poor guy) the fact that Vivax openly expressed doubts about Jar Jar bieng scum seems more than enough motivation for him to let the shot through. Also Jar Jar, you claim I shot rayn cause he was onto me, Vivax was equally suspicious, more so in fact and hes confirmed town...Why the hell would I let him live? WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 17:18 GMT
#2330
On March 03 2014 02:14 Ange777 wrote:
He didn't rule him out completely but posted the following: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444078&currentpage=97#1932


Ange, if you were scum, do you think Vivax would shoot you going by that post?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 17:23 GMT
#2332
On March 03 2014 02:19 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I actually didn't realize vivax was that sure of me. Good shit vivax, ur an intelligent player.

But I just realized, unless my math is off. We get 4 lynches not 3. So I don't really care much cause no way gumshoe makes it to endgame.


yesssssss, goooooood sleep now sweet prince ( : you've fought long and hard enough. Let the current carry you away to scum heaven :D
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 17:26 GMT
#2334
On March 03 2014 02:26 Ange777 wrote:
You mean the post where Vivax attacked me? No, I assumed he was faking more scum reads to enlarge the range of possible targets for scum. I know my play this game hasn't been overwhelming but I think it's quite clear that I am town and I do think that Vivax has a town read on me as well.

If you do mean the post I linked, I definitely wouldn't have assumed he might shoot me because he didn't even mention me at all.



I meant if you were Jar Jar XD
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 17:31 GMT
#2337
On March 03 2014 02:29 Ange777 wrote:
Oh :D Ehm ... no, I don't think he'd shoot me if I were JJD.


There ya go.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 17:50 GMT
#2339
On March 03 2014 02:45 Cavalinho wrote:
Vivax, did you ever actually consider shooting gumshoe during night 1?


Why are you asking him? Go filter dive like I did, make your own shit cases.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 18:04 GMT
#2344
On March 03 2014 02:50 Cavalinho wrote:
Actually, I just filter dived. Gumshoe wasn't baiting shit, he was pushing for JJD to be shot all night long.


Look at these qoutes, they imply 2 things, 1) I know Vivax's shot wont go off, 2) That I dont bilieve his claim.

Also, It's super easy for Vivax to have long heart felt arguments over who to shoot tonight that make him look townie if he knows for a fact that no such shot will go off. Personally I feel we should stop indulging him, Vivax, your a smart guy, shoot whoever you think is scum, if your actually vig I will whole heartedly support your choice, whatever it is.


That leaves Cavalinho, Jar and Vivax. Theres two scum out of these three. probs vivax and jar.



he didnt just claim blue, he claimed vig, the only roll capable of proving its loyalty, it's like someone getting away with murder because they claim they're the second coming of christ and therefore they can do no wrong. Sadly I doubt any hopeful lepers will be cured this game.


Isnt that key? You dont want to kill me out of the blue? But you do wanna kill me dont you XD


Of course I'd vote Vivax, because hes scum XD his claim is disgustingly convenient. You know what, I've called everything else in this game so far so why not, calling it now, Vivax's shot will not go off, because there is no shot. What am I willing to bet? My life of course. Take careful aim "Vig".


Shoot. Jar. Jar.

But you wont will you? because you have no intention of that shot going off, although you do have one blast in mind. The person who the gun is aimed at when the "role block" happens is the one who looks like scum. Thats why you'll point it at everybody and anybody but him.


I heavily antagonized him and implied I was scum by saying I knew he was getting rbed 0_0 no I didnt say "lynch me", thats way too fuckin obvius, but I clearly baited the shot.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 18:12 GMT
#2348
On March 03 2014 03:08 Vivax wrote:
If all three flip green we lynch geript, I just said he was town cause of the post where it looked like he actually did care who got lynched first and meant it but I can't get it out of my head that the thing between him and Toad was a D1 bus to shit up the thread, with arguments unconvincing enough to not get that far.


We need to stop talking about who were going to lynch after. Both cav and Jar have been exploiting these discussions to sow preemtive dissent. Thats how they've been playing all of day 2, making us promise to lynch x after them and causing fights between us that way. Today should be between the two of them, who we lynch day 3 is a matter meant for day 3.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 18:27 GMT
#2354
On March 03 2014 03:22 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 03:12 gumshoe wrote:
On March 03 2014 03:08 Vivax wrote:
If all three flip green we lynch geript, I just said he was town cause of the post where it looked like he actually did care who got lynched first and meant it but I can't get it out of my head that the thing between him and Toad was a D1 bus to shit up the thread, with arguments unconvincing enough to not get that far.


We need to stop talking about who were going to lynch after. Both cav and Jar have been exploiting these discussions to sow preemtive dissent. Thats how they've been playing all of day 2, making us promise to lynch x after them and causing fights between us that way. Today should be between the two of them, who we lynch day 3 is a matter meant for day 3.


Okay. So I guess that earlier comment you made about questioning geript is totally fine and dandy.

Just gonna sweep that under the rug.

Okay.


I'm asking us to stop now that I realized it's hurting us, as I said, I'm totally willing to change stances to what benefits town most. Right now infighting between effectively confirmed townies is not beneficial.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 18:28 GMT
#2355
On March 03 2014 03:23 Vivax wrote:
The guy we should lynch is TheChyz, suki made a case on him, made a part 2 when asked why she didn't keep pressuring him, and abandoned him when thread sentiment started switching towards me after WoS case she +1d.

Mocsta also mentioned something about suki filling in the gaps for him but I'm trying to find that part.

I just shot scum, allow me to try and achieve a streak and sheep me pls ^^


Screw you man, I wanna be right about Jar Jar XD
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 18:42 GMT
#2362
On March 03 2014 03:22 TheChyz wrote:
Gumshoe, just out of curiosity why did you claim when you did? Don't you think it would have been better to just not claim and wait for scum to shoot you and therefore your 100% confirmed town and scum wastes a shot. And even if you are about to have been lynch you could have just blue claimed and you would basically not be able to get lynched. Just the timing of your claim with regards to the role you have is strange. Also at this point we can't really confirm it cause the only way is for scum to shoot you (which they wont) so its safe to assume your going to be alive all game long. May be just me being paranoid but that could be a good cover up as scum. Anyway, just wanna know why you felt compelled to claim so early when you didn't need to?


When a role no longer has any power, that is the time to claim it, I tried my dammed hardest to get shot night 1, but when that fell through and scum shot rayn, it clearly implied that they needed to mislynch me. Holy, Vivax wos ange. All shots infinitly better than me that can all happen before we get to 2/1. My only goal now is to lynch scum before a mislynch on me comes to fruition, the claim helps me with this.

More importantly, I've said it before I'll say it over and over. You are the one arguing the harder ground, tell me why my claim means I am scum, if you cant think of anything, stop pushing me.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 18:43 GMT
#2364
On March 03 2014 03:35 Vivax wrote:
If you don't vote TheChyz I will dispose of GRRM before he can finish game of thrones.


NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE FAT MAAAAN t_t
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 19:23 GMT
#2376
On March 03 2014 03:21 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 03:04 gumshoe wrote:
On March 03 2014 02:50 Cavalinho wrote:
Actually, I just filter dived. Gumshoe wasn't baiting shit, he was pushing for JJD to be shot all night long.


Look at these qoutes, they imply 2 things, 1) I know Vivax's shot wont go off, 2) That I dont bilieve his claim.

Also, It's super easy for Vivax to have long heart felt arguments over who to shoot tonight that make him look townie if he knows for a fact that no such shot will go off. Personally I feel we should stop indulging him, Vivax, your a smart guy, shoot whoever you think is scum, if your actually vig I will whole heartedly support your choice, whatever it is.


That leaves Cavalinho, Jar and Vivax. Theres two scum out of these three. probs vivax and jar.



he didnt just claim blue, he claimed vig, the only roll capable of proving its loyalty, it's like someone getting away with murder because they claim they're the second coming of christ and therefore they can do no wrong. Sadly I doubt any hopeful lepers will be cured this game.


Isnt that key? You dont want to kill me out of the blue? But you do wanna kill me dont you XD


Of course I'd vote Vivax, because hes scum XD his claim is disgustingly convenient. You know what, I've called everything else in this game so far so why not, calling it now, Vivax's shot will not go off, because there is no shot. What am I willing to bet? My life of course. Take careful aim "Vig".


Shoot. Jar. Jar.

But you wont will you? because you have no intention of that shot going off, although you do have one blast in mind. The person who the gun is aimed at when the "role block" happens is the one who looks like scum. Thats why you'll point it at everybody and anybody but him.


I heavily antagonized him and implied I was scum by saying I knew he was getting rbed 0_0 no I didnt say "lynch me", thats way too fuckin obvius, but I clearly baited the shot.


That doesn't actually make any sense. You would rather the shot be on you, a confirmed townie from your own point of view, over someone you perceive to be scum.


YES BECAUSE THEN I AM A SHOT VT AND HE IS A FIRED VIG. We are two confirmed townies who the previus day and night were both suspect, which is infinitely preferable to a mishot townie. Yes it's ideal if hes lucky and kills scum, but second best is scum letting his shot through, and me being confirmed along with him. It makes complete bloody sense. But you know what, I dont expect you to understand, your not a vet, in fact most likely the opposite.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 02 2014 19:38 GMT
#2379
On March 03 2014 04:32 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 04:23 gumshoe wrote:
On March 03 2014 03:21 Cavalinho wrote:
On March 03 2014 03:04 gumshoe wrote:
On March 03 2014 02:50 Cavalinho wrote:
Actually, I just filter dived. Gumshoe wasn't baiting shit, he was pushing for JJD to be shot all night long.


Look at these qoutes, they imply 2 things, 1) I know Vivax's shot wont go off, 2) That I dont bilieve his claim.

Also, It's super easy for Vivax to have long heart felt arguments over who to shoot tonight that make him look townie if he knows for a fact that no such shot will go off. Personally I feel we should stop indulging him, Vivax, your a smart guy, shoot whoever you think is scum, if your actually vig I will whole heartedly support your choice, whatever it is.


That leaves Cavalinho, Jar and Vivax. Theres two scum out of these three. probs vivax and jar.



he didnt just claim blue, he claimed vig, the only roll capable of proving its loyalty, it's like someone getting away with murder because they claim they're the second coming of christ and therefore they can do no wrong. Sadly I doubt any hopeful lepers will be cured this game.


Isnt that key? You dont want to kill me out of the blue? But you do wanna kill me dont you XD


Of course I'd vote Vivax, because hes scum XD his claim is disgustingly convenient. You know what, I've called everything else in this game so far so why not, calling it now, Vivax's shot will not go off, because there is no shot. What am I willing to bet? My life of course. Take careful aim "Vig".


Shoot. Jar. Jar.

But you wont will you? because you have no intention of that shot going off, although you do have one blast in mind. The person who the gun is aimed at when the "role block" happens is the one who looks like scum. Thats why you'll point it at everybody and anybody but him.


I heavily antagonized him and implied I was scum by saying I knew he was getting rbed 0_0 no I didnt say "lynch me", thats way too fuckin obvius, but I clearly baited the shot.


That doesn't actually make any sense. You would rather the shot be on you, a confirmed townie from your own point of view, over someone you perceive to be scum.


YES BECAUSE THEN I AM A SHOT VT AND HE IS A FIRED VIG. We are two confirmed townies who the previus day and night were both suspect, which is infinitely preferable to a mishot townie. Yes it's ideal if hes lucky and kills scum, but second best is scum letting his shot through, and me being confirmed along with him. It makes complete bloody sense. But you know what, I dont expect you to understand, your not a vet, in fact most likely the opposite.


We are not trying to clear people. We are trying to find scum.

That is the entire purpose of this game.


solving the game helps catch scum, knowing for a fact whose town in no way hurts. In fact, in this situation, the person who purely scum hunts is likely scum, because it's in thier interest to keep as many people suspect as possible and they have no one left they want to protect.

Also, you telling me how to play the game implies I'm a newb, I'm fine if you wanna say that, but then why are we having this conversation? Tell me why my wanting to clear two townies and prevent a mishot makes me scum.
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XSE Pro League 2026
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