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suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 21 2014 20:37 GMT
#1390
I actually don't have good scum reads this game rayn. Every time I think I've found something I make a case, and people yell at me for how bad it is.

I've been toying with you being scum for the past hour, particularly after you come into the thread still spouting how I'm scum, however I have come to the conclusion that you're probably town. 1) you're retarded active , 2) you were trying to figure out toad rather than just straight up call him scum , 3) your points against me seem ok now that you've elaborated on your feelings.

I have a pretty good feeling about toad. The backtracking case, followed by his complete defensive shutdown, followed by his shit case on Balla that I just tried to read again and don't even know what he's saying, followed by his disappearance from the thread.

I actually don't really know who else to call scum at the moment, but Day 1 has always been my weakest day.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 21 2014 20:40 GMT
#1394
rayn just shut up. that's not how I've been playing this game and is a gross misrepresentation of my cases.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 00:15 GMT
#1501
Just wondering why toad just rolled over and died.. or was the pressure just too great and he just rage quit?

anyways yay one down Thx for the carry marv
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 00:17 GMT
#1503
On February 22 2014 09:08 Koshi wrote:
imo suki scumslipped.

Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:38 suki wrote:
Great. You go ahead and sheep your way to victory. I should try that some time instead of wasting all this effort.



Is a slip really the best thing you have against me? You've played with me before, you should know there is literally no way I'm scum right now based on how I'm playing.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 00:18 GMT
#1506
I think you're just twisting my words because I certainly didn't interpret 'making waves' as trying to get toad off the lynch. You're really stretching with this one Koshi.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 00:18 GMT
#1507
On February 22 2014 09:17 prplhz wrote:
dear suki

are you scum?

[ ] yes
[ x] no

please check one

suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 00:31 GMT
#1521
There is someone else who thought toad was going to flip town.

Early game he consistently had toad on his list

On February 21 2014 11:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 11:29 prplhz wrote:
reading your rather meager filter you're not even pushing for anything else, you're just crapping on us wanting an explanation from palmar

yes that is correct. How does that make me scum?
Im pushing the smurf/suki/toad bandwagon.


... then he randomly starts saying toad is town. This is before rayn came back and declared toad was town.

On February 22 2014 01:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also toad is flipping town, kush pls hand in your mafia card at the door on your way out.

On February 22 2014 01:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok so since people dont like me jumping around for whatever reason, Im gonna clarify my reads.

I think smurf is the scummiest. Followed by suki then balla then kush then the rest are townie maybe I guess toad is like 5th most likely to flip scum

On February 22 2014 01:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
On February 22 2014 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote smurfdude
I actually look better than I have in recent games so I have no idea why he thinks im worse. He clearly has played with me before and therefore is intentionally misrepresenting my play in order to twist it to call me scum

How would you say you look better than recent games?

I think that I look better than survivor series pretty much just because I posted more and about more things than there. But because that game had so many other lurkers i kinda didnt get into any pressure unlike this game. Apparently people still dont think im town which totally wouldnt happen if im scum. At least I think so. Like as scum I totally bus/murder Toad 100% of the time and look really good doing so.

On February 22 2014 03:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
lol palmar, is this the start of personality 2 2.0 if toad flips town which he is totally going to.

Where marv is totally wrong and game degenerates into a shitfight between 2 townies?

##vote smurfdude


I think it's not very likely that this is a scum plan to save toad. He gains nothing when toad flips and nobody was defending toad at that point. He could easily have kept suspicious of toad and still pushed whoever he felt like.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 00:35 GMT
#1527
Man Koshi is this like the previous game where you got shot on Night 1, raged in obs chat about how I was totally scum the entire time until I was mislynched on Day 3? And then you said I was the correct lynch for town anyways?

Your case on me is bullshit.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 00:38 GMT
#1530
All the little things you've been spewing in the thread .
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 00:54 GMT
#1540
Kush looks bad right now.

He starts the game off with a vote on toad, says he's backtracking hard. Later he waffles and says he didn't understand marv's case.
On February 21 2014 06:37 VIVAX420 wrote:
my problem with toad was 100% different fom yours. then you morphed it into this thing about misunderstanding rayn. wha tyou were saying was actually total bs. Got into to argument about how well toad knows rayn. That is how I know you are mafia. YUour logic is based on total bs.


Then before the lynch he's like toad is 100% town.

It totally looks like a mafia bus where he later got cold feet.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 01:00 GMT
#1549
On February 22 2014 09:54 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 09:53 marvellosity wrote:
I agree that suki looks not so hot. Only kinda because of the scumslip, but mainly because of the anger it contained rather than the wording.

kush looks awful as well. Remember how I picked him up middle of the day. He was kinda suspicious of Toad at the start.

1.Then "Toad is town, I don't get marv's case at all"

2.Then "I will quit mafia if Toad flips town"

Can anyone tell me how kush got from 1 to 2?

I find the anger more understandable than the slip. Anger could come from feeling like you've been tunneled all game long whilst still giving your best. As for Kush, he's one of my question marks. Doesn't he usually bus his buddies though? Is it customary for him to give a buddy a townread at first?


Hmm. In extractor trick mafia he bussed slam from pretty much his very first post. Slam never got seen as suspicious though so kush was able to ride that bus all the way to the end.

I tried looking for more scum games but he hasn't played much at all. In Sicilian Mafia, he doesn't talk about his first scumbuddy Yamato for the entire Day 1 and Yamato was lynched. Then as soon as Yamato bled red he hard bussed sloosh saying 'sloosh is confirmed scum'.

So I know kush likes to bus.

OH WAIT. Regarding my cold feet comment, I was thinking Kush was still saying Toad was town, but he said he will quit if Toad flips town, so he was actually saying Toad was going to flip scum. So it's totally a bus.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 01:04 GMT
#1558
I've gotta go to dinner. Will play later.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 03:17 GMT
#1625
On February 22 2014 10:13 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 10:07 Balla24 wrote:
On February 22 2014 10:05 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
On February 22 2014 10:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On February 22 2014 09:58 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Is there anyone that happens to know the latest scumgame of Kush?

In fact I was scum with him. What do you wanna know? >: ) hehehe

I'd appreciate the name of the game so I could look it up and analyze it.


its extractor trick http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439578

Yeah, he busses Alaka hard from the start. Never mentioned Thrawn before he got shot N1. Here he started out with a town read on Toad. Makes me blink for a second. Could be because he considers Toad a valuable asset and he was the GF though, then changed when it was inevitable. His thought process didn't really flow with the rest of town either.

I remember Rayn saying something about how Kush loves to sheep him if he's town and tries to deter Rayn when he's scum. In this game he's going in against Marv/Rayn so that's a point in favour of him being scum.

Rayn why did you read Kush as town?


Just wanted to point out Puppy that kush started out with a scumread against Toad, not a town read as you stated.

On February 20 2014 09:18 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:13 VIVAX420 wrote:
On February 20 2014 09:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are you actively looking for a way to pseudo-unvote? I don't even see a reason why someone should care about that.


wait so you are implying that scum is going to be afraid of the default votes enough to come up with a plan like that?


##vote toad

im not playing i want this addressed.

On February 20 2014 10:36 VIVAX420 wrote:
toad you are backtracking so hard. it's not serious, yet you gave shitty but serious reasons for it.

suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 03:21 GMT
#1626
On February 22 2014 11:31 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 00:11 VIVAX420 wrote:
I will quit mafia forever if toad is town

very late in his filter.

I dunno I think Kush may have pushed toad all the way through as scum if he were to play like extractor trick.

But whatever kush was like oats, really hard to read.

For all I know this means Kush/Oats team. But for all I know that means they just don't quote people, that really bugs me about both filters.

What else is new, I don't have long.


I don't like how flaky this post is. His conclusion is 'kush and oats are hard to read' which is doesn't tell me anything.

Also, the difference between extractor trick and this game is that in extractor trick he hard bussed slam but people had a town read of slam and were defending him, so he had no reason to flake.

I want to hear kush's opinion of the flip.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 06:00 GMT
#1633
On February 22 2014 13:25 VIVAX420 wrote:
wow toad flipped scum.. i guess i have to quit mafia now.


That's not what you said at all.

On February 22 2014 00:11 VIVAX420 wrote:
I will quit mafia forever if toad is town


Please, enlighten us with your thoughts.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 14:41 GMT
#1761
Balla is town. There's no way he can have the confidence to chase such a bad case against rayn as scum.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 15:08 GMT
#1775
On February 22 2014 05:13 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1) wrong. He saw something scummy based one meta and called you out of it. You said you could play like this as scum. That makes Toad's argument not scummy. Maybe wrong, but you can't possibly say it's scummy to call something scummy scummy. That's just retarded.

2) It's not scummy, it's pressure. I don't need to tell you what Toad has done after that, that was not a part of your case. Don't change your argument in the middle of one. That's bullshit.

3) So what? That's not what you say in the last paragraph. You don't say it's scummy and you don't explain why it's scummy. You say you need to hear more from him. That's what you say, not "scummy", but "need to hear more".


If you can't see why I think that his case is scummy for misrepresenting me and using meta on a small amount of contribution then you're not going to be convinced.

2) What are you talking about thats exactly the point. It might be pressure but it also could be fake contribution and to me it looks like fake contribution considering what I think of 1)

3) THATS EXACTLY THE POINT THOUGH. I wanted to see more contribution because all he's done at the point of my case was what I said. He hasn't done anything else now so it just proves my point that he's for some reason hesitant to talk about anything else.

Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 05:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Balla you are making a new case as we speak. Why don't you answer my concerns in your original case intead of making a new one? And if you think these new points you bring up are so good why were they not in your original case?


That's just wrong. I'm not making up new points, you are making it out to be but i'm not so go somewhere pls.

##vote raynpelikoneet

Everything since you came back is so convoluted and just shitting up the thread. I think you're scum and I think you know toad is town so you want to springboard onto marv/suki/me after toad flips. I don't think your views on toad are consistent, earlier you were voting him. Literally the only reason you think toad is NOT SCUM is because you think marv/suki and I are scum which is total bullshit, especially on suki and I. I don't know your relationship with marv so I don't know how bullshit that is.


There is no universe where scum Balla has the balls to say this to rayn.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 15:30 GMT
#1794
kush you played with Balla in Normal Mini Mafia: Episode 1. He is much more careful in what he says, much less confident. He can't even produce content the way he has this game as scum, much less attack a player the way he did. It doesn't even have to be rayn. Scum balla just doesn't play this way.

I really find it weird that you don't see this seeing as you clearly saw the difference in NM:E1

beginning of game
On January 20 2014 09:34 kushm4sta wrote:
yo i sort of scum coached this newbie where balla was town. This guy is sick. I am expecting amazing reads from him.


mid-game when people were calling balla out for being scummy and kush was voting balla.
On January 21 2014 21:40 kushm4sta wrote:

And balla is so underwhelming compared to the newbie I partially observed.

@Suki you have experience with balla, what are you thouhts?


You seem to be thinking Balla is suspicious at this moment.
On February 22 2014 15:36 VIVAX420 wrote:
balla you think rayn is scum?

On February 22 2014 16:30 VIVAX420 wrote:
balla you are busing him amirite?



Why didn't you think Balla was scummy at the beginning of the game and call him out, when he was clearly inactive? Why are you questioning my townread of Balla when you yourself read Balla as town earlier on?

On February 21 2014 06:49 VIVAX420 wrote:
that whole suki balla thing looks like some boring shit between townies. so tldr


Your line of thought on Balla just doesn't line up at all.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 15:32 GMT
#1795
On February 23 2014 00:25 Koshi wrote:
suki, if you would write down all your ideas atm. Would that help the thread in case you die?


I am not dying tonight because there are better vig targets and better town targets than me.
suki
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada1159 Posts
February 22 2014 15:42 GMT
#1805
Obviously I'm looking at Kush being mafia, for having such a shitty read on Balla.

But his responses are coherent and make sense.

Taking another look at Balla's filter some things really don't add up. Calling marv questionable is a really weird thing. His case on toad also bad. His case on you bad. Bussing Toad is definitely a plausible move for scum Balla.

I guess I just liked the fact that he was hard defending me :|

Kush looks more townie to me right now from this exchange. Balla looks worse.

I do think Oats is town so scum suspect was kush and slam. Add Balla to the list now.
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