• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:54
CET 20:54
KST 04:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies1ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1072 users

[M][N] Default Suspicions Mafia - Page 3

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 19 20 21 Next All
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 02:28 GMT
#300
Simple question Toad. At this moment do you think i am mafia or not?

suki i am always serious.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 02:34 GMT
#303
wow prplhz is also mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 02:36 GMT
#305
Okay suki let's try it this way.
Have you ever, as town, unvoted in a mafia game?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 02:39 GMT
#309
So what was your reasoning for unvoting as town or as mafia? I guarantee as mafia it's most likely "because i would do that as town" as in "i try to look townie" because that's why you do things as mafia right?

So we can exclude that part. What was your reasoning for unvote as town?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 02:43 GMT
#310
On February 20 2014 11:33 prplhz wrote:
I still think that raynpelikoneet's plan is completely useless and no townie has any reason to come up with or push it.

I also agree with marvellosity that it doesn't make sense that scum would hard push a silly slightly scummy plan in thread like this.

Also this is why prplhz is mafia. It's an obvious contradiction that makes no sense.

##unvote
##Vote: prplhz
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 02:48 GMT
#313
Just answer my question, why are you avoiding it? There is no reason to do so if you are town.
I am not voting for you so i don't need to explain anything.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 02:58 GMT
#317
On February 20 2014 11:51 suki wrote:
Oh really rayn? Why are you avoiding my question? There is no reason to do so if you're town. Who cares if you're not voting for me, you said your vote on me was serious so what's the big secret?

Answer to rayn's question:
I suppose most of the time when I unvote its when one of my cases falls flat and I don't have a basis to suspect that person anymore.

So then, you're arguing here that being able to unvote aids in transparency and shows exactly where I stand, which includes being neutral.

Which, I get.

But put in a situation where a town person can't unvote but they don't find X person suspicious anymore, the obvious move is to find their next target and then move their vote there. If they don't, people can pressure them to do so.
It is to town's benefit that everybody be forced to be accountable for their reads. If neutral is no longer an option, then everybody must take a stance on someone, which is where their vote is. People being forced to take a stance is pro-town.

Now, first of all why did you feel the need to spoiler your answer, it's really annoying. So i'll take it off the spoilers.
Secondly, if the bolded part is true why are you not pushing this policy in every game with normal mechanics?

Now to my answer to you;
Mafia does not usually call me mafia when i am town. Because that's a suicide. They call me stupid or whatever shit and try to discredit me. That's a better way because if you call me scum you get lynched. That's exactly what you did. Also you are calling my plan stupid, which it isn't. Now that's something i can get from people who are stupid. But i don't think you are stupid. And that's why i am now proving you calling my plan stupid is a way to not call me mafia because you know i am not mafia but rather to discredit me without calling me mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 03:04 GMT
#319
On February 20 2014 12:03 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 11:52 prplhz wrote:
Why is VIVAX420 not talking more than he is?


when i have somehting to say i will talk?
~~~
rayn you coached suki right?

No i have no coached suki.
You should vote for prplhz, he's scum.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 03:07 GMT
#321
No it's a total contradiction. I guarantee you noone does that as town. He is mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 03:10 GMT
#326
You say that me, as town, have no reason to come up with that plan, which means i am mafia. You also use absolutes to say so. In the next sentence you say you don't see why i would come up with such a plan as mafia, which is totally contradicting your last sentece because there was no way i would come up with the plan as town.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 03:12 GMT
#328
I mean you literally say "no townie has any reason to come up with".
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 03:12 GMT
#329
Stop calling me moron and tell me why you say incorrect shit then?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 03:24 GMT
#332
I do not want to lynch you for having an opinion. I want to lynch you because you say things that contradict each other and your thought process in your post can't come from a townie. Noone says "this is absolutely this" and say another thing in the next sentence as town. That is a fact.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 03:33 GMT
#339
so prplhz do you think i am mafia or not?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 03:35 GMT
#341
why are you voting for me?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 03:36 GMT
#344
Well you are voting for a person you think is not mafia so how about you vote for mafia instead then?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 03:39 GMT
#346
Also when exactly did you stop thinking i am mafia? Could you point out the post that made you think so. Normally i would think people stop thinking other people are mafia when they unvote the person but apparently it's impossible in this game because people are being retarded and i am being called stupid.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 03:46 GMT
#349
On February 20 2014 12:43 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:09 Toadesstern wrote:
Why are you actively looking for a way to pseudo-unvote? I don't even see a reason why someone should care about that.

thoughts on that?

Could you clarify the question? I don't understand what do you want.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 04:55 GMT
#360
On February 20 2014 13:33 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My problem is that there are now at least 4 people who have no interest in thinking of my motives behind my posts. I'll make a clarification after marv posts anyways, but there is something i want out of marv first. I'll explain that too after.


Also rayn, did you still want to explain why you wanted marv to explain first?

If marv does not understand what i mean then i can get other people do not aswell.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 20 2014 05:26 GMT
#363
suki why are you not pressuring prplhz to take a stance with his vote? I thought that was what you were vouching for?
table for two on a tv tray
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 19 20 21 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
17:00
#35
RotterdaM1067
TKL 421
SteadfastSC255
IndyStarCraft 227
kabyraGe 178
BRAT_OK 126
EnkiAlexander 12
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1095
mouzHeroMarine 471
TKL 421
SteadfastSC 250
IndyStarCraft 230
BRAT_OK 138
MaxPax 134
trigger 44
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 382
Dewaltoss 128
firebathero 111
Mini 60
910 29
Yoon 20
Dota 2
XcaliburYe869
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu74
Other Games
Grubby5611
FrodaN2139
fl0m886
Beastyqt847
ceh9546
B2W.Neo342
C9.Mang0114
QueenE94
Mew2King87
Trikslyr44
ZombieGrub10
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV52
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 42
• HeavenSC 5
• Reevou 4
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 19
• Azhi_Dahaki11
• Eskiya23 8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV1668
League of Legends
• Nemesis2916
• TFBlade767
Other Games
• imaqtpie1268
• Shiphtur238
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
1d 16h
Gerald vs YoungYakov
Spirit vs MaNa
SHIN vs Percival
Creator vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.