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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 21:20 GMT
#3282
What...? I think oats is town and that by way of counting means that wave is NOT town so you are on the bad wagon.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 21:35 GMT
#3283
I'm talking about your logic being flawed by the way. You think wave is town so your scum team would be oats/risen/yamato but I think oats is town so my scum team is risen/yamato/wave, the best lynch would be on the people that we think are scum together rather than the outlier that you do not know about because you didn't read his games clearly enough x_x...

Also, if oats IS town like I think he is, he is now asleep so if we vote yamato who we both think is scum then the scum team (because they are 3 people) can just vote a towny and win the game. The safest option is to therefore vote for risen who oats is voting for because he is the common theme in all of our scum teams and also the person who is being voted for by the now sleeping oats.

If oats is scum he's bussing the person we think is scum so we should then vote risen anyway?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 21:36 GMT
#3284
although it's plurality so as long as you me and ve get votes in on someone first we should be safe ^^
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 21:49 GMT
#3290
My vote isn't on anyone at the moment, I want it to be as unanimous as it can be.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 21:50 GMT
#3291
+ I didn't realise yamato was on risen PPP
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 21:53 GMT
#3293
Well he would have been :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 22:21 GMT
#3306
On February 19 2014 07:12 Palmar wrote:
Feel free to call me bad and dumb if he flips town. This goes to obs topic people too.


Tis bad logic though. Town Oats has to go to bed so he votes for the person he most likely thinks is scum - risen. Scum oats has to go to bed so he votes off a towny who wasn't being voted for (you were on yamato) - risen or busses someone in the crosshairs - risen.

Town Yamato has to go afk and only other possible wagon is risen because oats is voting and he thinks risen is scum and it's a wagon that is not himself. Scum Yamato has to go afk and only other wagon is someone that is not Yamato and therefore busses risen if risen is scum or votes for risen if risen is town.

Both actions can come from EITHER alignment player regardless of where VE and Palmar are because they have to afk now. It's total wifom to talk about because you will mindgame yourself into a different lynch, you literally have to talk about what they've done this game instead and how it compares to previous games.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 22:22 GMT
#3307
or scum oats tries to save yamato by killing town risen, it's still just major major wifom x_x
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 22:45 GMT
#3314
Let's get it all out in the open. What is it that makes oats scum this game? His lack of push/drive/doing anything?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 23:06 GMT
#3318
=.= =.= =.=

fine whatever then consensus achieved ((((

##Vote Oatsmaster
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 23:12 GMT
#3322
On February 19 2014 08:11 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 08:06 Holyflare wrote:
=.= =.= =.=

fine whatever then consensus achieved ((((

##Vote Oatsmaster


btw you can call me bad if he flips town, can I lynch you if he flips scum?


I bus hard as scum I don't defend :ooo!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 23:14 GMT
#3323
I just want to win and not end in a non discussed player T_T
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 23:21 GMT
#3325
On February 19 2014 08:18 Palmar wrote:
There isn't much to discuss, that's why he's so hard to read.

I already pointed out a few strange things in his behavior on day 2:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20770190

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20770199

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20771172


that's entirely strange but exactly what grack did yet you had a town read on him for some reason or another despite me pointing it out and as you said in one of those posts "scum like to play safe" i see nothing safe about calling everyone scum at one point
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 23:38 GMT
#3329
hold me ve
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 18 2014 23:47 GMT
#3334
On February 19 2014 08:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Holy I can't stress enough how through we are if it turns out you're scum.


:O!!! Good thing I'm not then!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 19 2014 00:29 GMT
#3336
##Unvote
##Vote Risen










[image loading]






inb4 grack, risen, va and obs thread tell everyone scum team was obvious and about how "right" they were


On February 13 2014 23:30 Palmar wrote:
I'm not pretentious

If you know someone is scum, and marv thinks VA is scum, marv gets his target lynched and you don't, even if marv is wrong, marv played better than you, because you did nothing.

It's equally useless to have good reads and no ability to convey your thoughts to the town, as it is to have bad reads.


Yes.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 19 2014 00:36 GMT
#3353
On February 19 2014 09:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Fuck off Wave.

U 2 Holy.

</3


baby forgive me (((
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 19 2014 00:46 GMT
#3368
Holyflare's summary of Survivor Series Mafia!


"x,y,z is scum"
"Why do you think that?"
"HE JUST IS OK"
"THAT GUY IS TOTALLY RIGHT!!!"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 19 2014 00:47 GMT
#3370
On February 19 2014 09:46 Palmar wrote:
And yeah it was close. I didn't feel like I could swing the lynch onto holy (after he whipped up a massive case for Oats town I was 100% sure he was scum, no one reads that much in that short time and reaches a conclusion on it all).

So I tried Oats.

And half of town afk ^^


I read his meta during the day and posted the conclusion in a post during the night? It was correct meta regardless.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 19 2014 00:51 GMT
#3377
On February 19 2014 09:48 Grackaroni wrote:
Honestly you guys can bitch all you want about me not explaining read, but Yamato has the easiest meta of any player on TL and HF essentially scum claimed by full-on trying to kill me for possibly trying to get rid of somebody scum reading me during the all town lynch when he flat out stated that he was voting somebody based on how people would read him.

I strongly believe that a competent town could have gotten either one of those lynches. WoS is a lot trickier and you just have to know HF well enough to not write him off as town because he posts a lot and pretends to be angry.


This is why you DONT MAKE SENSE. How does wanting to keep players that can read you in the game scummy compared to flip flopping on a player that has changing reads on you around the time he changes them? There was an entire bit more than just your lynch choice either way.

Like I cannot understand your frustration AT ALL, you get asked to post why I'm scum, you can't do it and then when I don't die you are frustrated....? People follow marv because he portrays that he is town first and foremost and then finds the scum at the same time. It won't work for you if nobody knows yours alignment because you trolled for 3 days straight.
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