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grack had a fucking contest on day 2 of who was the most unreadable between him and va and yet, that's totally worth more right? right...?
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On February 17 2014 23:39 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 23:37 Holyflare wrote:On February 17 2014 23:35 Palmar wrote:On February 17 2014 23:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anything you can do to get that scumread Palmar. First it was because I "wasn't playing" even though I was, in fact, playing, now it's because I don't have a townread on you while you're making shit up to try and get me lynched.
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Just keep reaching bro. The first point still stands. I couldn't "make up" the other part until it became clear that you still think I'm scum. It's not reaching, I've called you out multiple times over the course of the first few days on doing nothing, or very little, and not explaining any of your reads. All these things still stand. Given your recent contributions, you may in fact be town, but I don't think I can ever clear you. HOW CAN YOU SAY THIS BUT THEN NOT WANT TO DISCUSS GRACK WHO DIDNT DO ANYTHING TILL DAY 3 AND EVEN THEN STILL DID NOTHING :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Because I know VE far better than I know Grack. I admit, I am not 100% sure on Grack being town. I think he is, but I can't be sure. There is a reason I voted for him over Koshi, I was more sure Koshi is town. Obviously I'm not going to have the energy to read Grack today, but if we do this correctly and lynch VE today, I will absolutely listen to each and every argument. I'm going to have to anyway.
well I think VE is town and grack is scum, dilemna... maybe you should read grack right about now and maybe you should have done it days ago when I was talking about it and all you did was troll me and try and lynch me off then too, that would be a start if you want to "win the game"
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On February 17 2014 23:45 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 23:43 Risen wrote:On February 17 2014 23:40 Palmar wrote:On February 17 2014 23:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Let me ask you Palmar: why do you feel like town has a better chance of winning with Grack alive than with me alive assuming we're both town? If you're both town, we're better off with you alive. Lol. That five forty tho On February 17 2014 23:40 Holyflare wrote:On February 17 2014 23:39 Palmar wrote:On February 17 2014 23:37 Holyflare wrote:On February 17 2014 23:35 Palmar wrote:On February 17 2014 23:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anything you can do to get that scumread Palmar. First it was because I "wasn't playing" even though I was, in fact, playing, now it's because I don't have a townread on you while you're making shit up to try and get me lynched.
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Just keep reaching bro. The first point still stands. I couldn't "make up" the other part until it became clear that you still think I'm scum. It's not reaching, I've called you out multiple times over the course of the first few days on doing nothing, or very little, and not explaining any of your reads. All these things still stand. Given your recent contributions, you may in fact be town, but I don't think I can ever clear you. HOW CAN YOU SAY THIS BUT THEN NOT WANT TO DISCUSS GRACK WHO DIDNT DO ANYTHING TILL DAY 3 AND EVEN THEN STILL DID NOTHING :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Because I know VE far better than I know Grack. I admit, I am not 100% sure on Grack being town. I think he is, but I can't be sure. There is a reason I voted for him over Koshi, I was more sure Koshi is town. Obviously I'm not going to have the energy to read Grack today, but if we do this correctly and lynch VE today, I will absolutely listen to each and every argument. I'm going to have to anyway. well I think VE is town and grack is scum, dilemna... maybe you should read grack right about now and maybe you should have done it days ago when I was talking about it and all you did was troll me and try and lynch me off then too, that would be a start if you want to "win the game" I want grack lynched so people will listen to him about hf if he's town. I support this. We could do this, I might consider lynching Grack if HF agrees that we auto-lynch him if Grack flips town. Does that sound good HF?
no......................? that would be a lost game in that case
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like what the hell kind of question was that lol??
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I don't get it, if i'm wrong I'm wrong, I've stated why I THINK Grack is scum and nobody has even commented on anything i've posted other than grack himself but suddenly it's auto-lynch if wrong and then that would just be a lost game. Is this a newbie game or what?
I want to discuss it like normal people and I've asked so many times to discuss and only VE has done it and we only got so far as risen yesterday. Yet now you're making lynch plans on who we are lynching and in what order instead of why we should be lynching these people?
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Risen stop making fucking lynch orders and discuss WHY each person could be scum. If you are indeed town you need to be doing that right now.
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On February 18 2014 00:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 00:04 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 18 2014 00:00 Palmar wrote:On February 17 2014 23:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
You want to kill me off so that you can "trust my reads" while you're sitting here developing your own picture of how the lynches are going to go later. You don't give a shit about my reads. You're just blowing smoke up my ass so that I'm like "Oh well if Palmar thinks I'm town then it's okay for me to die. Herp derp." Why do you assume I'm lying. I'm begging you to work with me. I have no idea why you are so against it. Hell if you can prove to me Grack is scum, I'll lynch him today, but then you'd also have to explain why you didn't just vote him last nomination lynch over Koshi. I really, really want to know who you think is scum, and why. Can you please do this for me? I've gone on and on about why I think yamato and Risen are scum. If you're at all interested in my reads you would know this. I'm afk until after this farce is over. That's 2/3, and apparently I'm scum too. Do you still think Risen is scum given his contributions in this last page? I agree with Holy they're basically worthless, but I also think they feel somewhat genuine, he has a thought process and he's following it.
anyone can rationalise a town thought process when doing lylo mathematics "i am town and these are all town reads so these must be scum" is the easiest thing in the world to do, the thing he isn't doing and what makes him scum is that he's not explaining these reads in detail and out loud and he hasn't done so the entire game hence why I keep trying to get him to do it and the only thing he returns to the thread to do is talk about the lynch order again (this is the 2nd time now, it happened yesterday after me and ve came to the conclusion he was scum)
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also the fact that he tries to justify his lynch choices based on dead players reads in a nomination game..?
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On February 18 2014 00:31 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 00:10 Holyflare wrote:On February 18 2014 00:05 Palmar wrote:On February 18 2014 00:04 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 18 2014 00:00 Palmar wrote:On February 17 2014 23:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
You want to kill me off so that you can "trust my reads" while you're sitting here developing your own picture of how the lynches are going to go later. You don't give a shit about my reads. You're just blowing smoke up my ass so that I'm like "Oh well if Palmar thinks I'm town then it's okay for me to die. Herp derp." Why do you assume I'm lying. I'm begging you to work with me. I have no idea why you are so against it. Hell if you can prove to me Grack is scum, I'll lynch him today, but then you'd also have to explain why you didn't just vote him last nomination lynch over Koshi. I really, really want to know who you think is scum, and why. Can you please do this for me? I've gone on and on about why I think yamato and Risen are scum. If you're at all interested in my reads you would know this. I'm afk until after this farce is over. That's 2/3, and apparently I'm scum too. Do you still think Risen is scum given his contributions in this last page? I agree with Holy they're basically worthless, but I also think they feel somewhat genuine, he has a thought process and he's following it. anyone can rationalise a town thought process when doing lylo mathematics "i am town and these are all town reads so these must be scum" is the easiest thing in the world to do, the thing he isn't doing and what makes him scum is that he's not explaining these reads in detail and out loud and he hasn't done so the entire game hence why I keep trying to get him to do it and the only thing he returns to the thread to do is talk about the lynch order again (this is the 2nd time now, it happened yesterday after me and ve came to the conclusion he was scum) That is your reasoning though. You have consistently argued that Risen and I are scum for trying to get a free mislynch while you were afking. And then you come back and say that this is the easiest kind of suspicion. This is very similar to you voting off somebody because you didn't think they would town read you, and then coming back before the lynch and conjuring up some bullshit that I would switch off Rayn because he wasn't trying to lynch me. (which from your point of view wouldn't make me scum because I would be choosing not to kill the guy who was doing the best job of reading me) Less complaining about the lack of discussion more analysis.
It's as if I've done nothing OTHER THAN THAT the entire game.........!??!?!?!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/edit.php?action=edit&post_id=2755&topic_id=442512¤tpage=1
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442512¤tpage=140#2794
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442512¤tpage=141#2808
The whole past day I've been trying to discuss people that are scum with VE and you come in and do nothing and afk again and risen comes in says all my points were true and then afk's only to come back, call me scum, vote palmar and then switch to grack after I show him reasoning. Like wut, he's sheeping his scum read right now.
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On February 18 2014 01:09 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2014 01:00 Holyflare wrote:On February 18 2014 00:31 Grackaroni wrote:On February 18 2014 00:10 Holyflare wrote:On February 18 2014 00:05 Palmar wrote:On February 18 2014 00:04 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 18 2014 00:00 Palmar wrote:On February 17 2014 23:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
You want to kill me off so that you can "trust my reads" while you're sitting here developing your own picture of how the lynches are going to go later. You don't give a shit about my reads. You're just blowing smoke up my ass so that I'm like "Oh well if Palmar thinks I'm town then it's okay for me to die. Herp derp." Why do you assume I'm lying. I'm begging you to work with me. I have no idea why you are so against it. Hell if you can prove to me Grack is scum, I'll lynch him today, but then you'd also have to explain why you didn't just vote him last nomination lynch over Koshi. I really, really want to know who you think is scum, and why. Can you please do this for me? I've gone on and on about why I think yamato and Risen are scum. If you're at all interested in my reads you would know this. I'm afk until after this farce is over. That's 2/3, and apparently I'm scum too. Do you still think Risen is scum given his contributions in this last page? I agree with Holy they're basically worthless, but I also think they feel somewhat genuine, he has a thought process and he's following it. anyone can rationalise a town thought process when doing lylo mathematics "i am town and these are all town reads so these must be scum" is the easiest thing in the world to do, the thing he isn't doing and what makes him scum is that he's not explaining these reads in detail and out loud and he hasn't done so the entire game hence why I keep trying to get him to do it and the only thing he returns to the thread to do is talk about the lynch order again (this is the 2nd time now, it happened yesterday after me and ve came to the conclusion he was scum) That is your reasoning though. You have consistently argued that Risen and I are scum for trying to get a free mislynch while you were afking. And then you come back and say that this is the easiest kind of suspicion. This is very similar to you voting off somebody because you didn't think they would town read you, and then coming back before the lynch and conjuring up some bullshit that I would switch off Rayn because he wasn't trying to lynch me. (which from your point of view wouldn't make me scum because I would be choosing not to kill the guy who was doing the best job of reading me) Less complaining about the lack of discussion more analysis. It's as if I've done nothing OTHER THAN THAT the entire game.........!??!?!?! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/edit.php?action=edit&post_id=2755&topic_id=442512¤tpage=1http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442512¤tpage=140#2794http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442512¤tpage=141#2808The whole past day I've been trying to discuss people that are scum with VE and you come in and do nothing and afk again and risen comes in says all my points were true and then afk's only to come back, call me scum, vote palmar and then switch to grack after I show him reasoning. Like wut, he's sheeping his scum read right now. It's not a matter of doing nothing. You can't do something scummy and then yell, "but what about all the things I did." When you were set to be lynched you pushed a bunch of bullshit against me. And I don't see anything useful in there. You went on about me wanting to lynch you over Keir and that doesn't mean shit. You already had the votes and I was ok with either lynch. Chin up though. After I lynch myself you will be confirmed town.
Only you and VA were on me because you said I was "scum" and that was before I even posted anything to do with you so your point is not valid at all? Where is the scummy things that I have done? You never mentioned these things before it's always been "I can't explain, it's just a feel, he's done this in another game" but now it's "oh that's scummy!" you keep talking about keeping people in that can town read me?? I said they can read my alignment and should know whether I was town or not, where is the scum incentive in that???
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Like, your only point on me this entire game is that I'm pushing you and that's been your only contribution this entire game too. Good job bro.
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Marv was self voting and was leading votes, we've already been through this and nobody had any input other than you and i told you i was angry nobody was discussing you and giving you bs town reads (Keirathi and palmar and marv) so i was seeing everything you did as scummy but since then you've fallen off completely, haven't updated any reads, nitpicked individual lines of my posts rather than the overlying message of them and just called me scum over and over with risen and then portray every move that happrns in the game as some scum holyflare motivated move. That's the scummy intent, rather than looking at circumstances, posts, overarching flow of the game you paint everything that happens as one players agenda to try and get that player lynched and use false meta to try and put people off me.
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The only redeeming feature about you is that you are self voting
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On February 18 2014 01:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
HF is Palmar scum? I'm very biased right now.
No :p don't think he is no matter how inflated his geript lynch claim ego is
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I've been there ve, 2 days ago, got so mad at him that i thought he was scum and was picking everything out of his filter as scummy. He wouldn't be scum in a marv/rayn/palmar lynch because he was most likely to die
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Well I'm in my exam now, starts at 5.30 and won't be back till 10 x_x
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On February 18 2014 18:35 Palmar wrote:
I mean it'd be super nice if Risen and WoS were somehow just town and whatever.
But I feel that's unlikely to be the case.
@Risen, can I count on you to sheep whatever VE and I conclude?
We absolutely have to be unanimous otherwise we lose.
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On February 18 2014 19:23 Palmar wrote:
I think that much is clear.
Holyman should we listen to Grack and lynch you?
already said what I thought about that :o
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