Crossfire has 3 posts of substance.

One is policy talk. Easy scum starter.

One he dives kush which does nothing. Kush plays however the fuck he wants and he comes back with a null read. That's odd in itself after all the work he claims to have done.

His third is a case on rayn which isnt even much of a case in my opinion.

He's not helping the town at all and not really playing the game.

JonnyLaw

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January 21 2014 19:50 GMT

#792

Suki your basic idea is that zarepath cannot be scum because he brings up his case ONE time after making it then drops it all together?

If there are two lynch candidates and you're one of them don't you pick option b regardless of alignment? His switch to bum was an easy choice imo.

JonnyLaw

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January 21 2014 20:15 GMT

#805

On January 22 2014 04:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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Is there anything you find scummy about Crossfire that you find difficult to imagine from a town point of view?

No, I can imagine them. He's just lurking though so it's hard to say.

Wile - I agree. Just some rp and not really saying anything also.

Both are lurking hard. What else can you say about them? Do you want to policy lynch them for lurking?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 20:33 GMT

#809

Thrawn who do you want to see lynched right now?

Suki you haven't voted either. You don't like the zarepath lynch. Are you favoring lynching bum or some third party you haven't mentioned?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 20:43 GMT

#817

On January 22 2014 05:41 kushm4sta wrote:
fuck no are we lynching wiley. blues are immune remember we agreed to that?

Actually I kind of feel like you agreed to that.

JonnyLaw

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January 21 2014 20:57 GMT

#824

That's another decent analysis BTB. I'd already voted VE, and I want to say suki as well when zarepath made his case.

And no Suki, policy lynching lurkers is not a terrible plan. They have to die at some point and make themselves very hard to read if they're scum. Day 1 is the ideal time for it in fact.

JonnyLaw

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January 21 2014 21:05 GMT

#828

On January 22 2014 05:58 bumatlarge wrote:
I don't like lynching crossfire, because of this post.

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I have done this, and came up with nothing useful, and posted anyway because I didn't want to let the work go unnoted. I probably wouldn't search somewhere I know is a dead-end as scum, and if I did, I would probably push the fact that I went through the trouble of doing that.

I find this post very similar to an off-hand townie post.

I understand the logic of wanting to post it. I don't think that's alignment indicative though. He could easily go grab a couple random quotes. Then say he discovered nothing then post it in an attempt to appear pro-town while doing nothing. That's so much easier than if he actually filter dived kush with detail.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 21:05 GMT

#829

On January 22 2014 06:04 suki wrote:
You can policy lynch and I'm just going to scum hunt. How's that sound Jonny?

You've been helpful with it so far.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 21:09 GMT

#832

Sorry suki, that wasn't needed.

I feel like you've spent the last two pages saying nothing except my points are terrible then you switch your vote to the person I want lynched. I put time into what I did, even if you think it's terribly expressed the points remain valid that he back tracked an awful lot.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 21:10 GMT

#833

Do you think that post has to be alignment indicative though bum?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 21:14 GMT

#839

Why would a claim mean anything at this point?

Scum should get a role as well right?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 21:24 GMT

#849

Did he break the rules? I don't understand what's going on now.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 21:32 GMT

#854

Well that's anti-climactic.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 21:34 GMT

#857

I say 100% for fairness' sake we cannot change the vote. It's shitty but I think it would have passed regardless. Hell, he could still be lying but rules 11 and 12 make me believe scum did not receive at a role pm to fake claim.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 21:35 GMT

#860

11. Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment. You can claim the abilities you have, but you can't use the specific phrasing of your role PM.
12. Posting a false role PM phrased as if you received it from the host. You can still fake roleclaim, but you cannot make it look like you are posting a PM you received from the host.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 21:36 GMT

#861

What other option is there rayn? You want modkills or him breaking the rules make us change our votes?

That's fucked up and you know it. I'm town as shit but I want a fair fucking game. Is there any way you were changing your vote before the deadline without that post?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 21:37 GMT

#863

I considered not commenting on this issue at all because someone's going to use it as an excuse to call me scum later.

Fuck that. If I'm scum there zero motivation for me to say a god damned word right now. I'm actually fairly pissed. I'm taking a break this is utter trash.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 21:38 GMT

#866

On January 22 2014 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No townie wants anyone modkilled especially when mafia has fakeclaims and it's easy to prove and i have asked the hosts about it already.

Oh, what the fuck is that rule saying then?

Why get fake claims if you can't use the posting. So can we switch our votes and he's not modkilled?

I'm just utterly confused.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 21:40 GMT

#869

11. Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment. You can claim the abilities you have, but you can't use the specific phrasing of your role PM.

I assume he's being mod killed for breaking that rule. Would you have switched your vote from him had he claimed blue without the pm details?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

January 21 2014 21:42 GMT

#872

Yeah, in lolpyp we got fake claims as scum.

That's why I've assumed claiming meant nothing all game. But here it seems different.