EPTI was about to make a post about how I no longer trust 'dick move analysis' anymore as well...
Um
Gg I guess?
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I was about to make a post about how I no longer trust 'dick move analysis' anymore as well... Um Gg I guess? | ||
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Just a few comments: Cora - Correct me if I'm wrong here but you were actively choosing to assist in the shitting up of the thread? In which case well played; it just so happened in this case town actually had a really good mindset going in terms of attempting to rid ourselves of toxicity at the very least (and at best of course, scum) which really doesn't seem to happen very often in games these days. I think the trend recently has been a lot of townies causing the anti-town issues, so I know personally I kinda figured you'd flip town, as seems to happen very often. It makes me wonder if that in the end wasn't the right way to play, but of course then again you couldn't have known we'd actually attempt to remove you for it in this game I suppose. CC asking for replacement - First of all, people REALLY NEED TO STOP ASKING FOR REPLACEMENTS IN THREAD. I do understand why CC was angry (hell I can maybe even understand Cora here as well) because people were calling both of them out for inactivity/uselessness and yet we had far worse culprits. Even with CC gone most of the day I still wouldn't have been badgering him so hard on that point especially considering we still had kush/gumshoe/fuba who had been around and done way less. I suppose this one is all part of the game though so in the end maybe it just comes down to, 'if you can't handle things, for whatever reason PLEASE just DON'T PLAY.' | ||
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I was debating between RBing gumshoe/thrawn/kush or not at all.  | ||
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On January 09 2014 22:16 marvellosity wrote: Calling the Cora lynch a policy lynch or whatever is kinda belittling what the lynch was (or should have been about). Corazon is a stubborn motherfucker as town and yet in this game he just wasn't. 1.Yes 2.Do what he did As town he sticks hardcore to whatever his guns are I don't think that's quite fair. He was super fucking stubborn about my 'lying' about what he said (and I believe he did the same thing to WBG and Rayn as well) but I think he never flat-out tried to push any of us for it. And I'm not solely referring to it as policy but there was a justification of policy behind it in terms of his interaction with the thread. I mean in the end most of the people voting for him did so because they thought he was scum anyway. | ||
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On January 09 2014 22:28 marvellosity wrote: Oh yeah! I vaguely remember. I think I remember seeing Cora make a post about yamato and when iamp (?) asked him why he wrote what he did, he talked about how he didn't want to be suspicious. These were all good reasons to lynch Cora. It's why I posted this in obsQT: marvellosity was signed in when posted 01-08-2014 04:45 PM ET (US) WoS keeps saying dumb things "who would you rather have at lylo - kush or cora" is a terrible way to be deciding the lynch at this point Pushing policy lynch of kush. Don't feel bad about it. | ||
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On January 09 2014 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wave you literally laughed my ass off when you posted about kush. haha. This sentence makes me laugh my ass off. But seriously, why? Edit: Boo you edited it, luckily I have it saved here for all eternity | ||
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I got an 'unofficial warning' from Slam during the game for what essentially amounted to absolutely nothing. Aqua did you find anything of what I posted close to crossing the line? | ||
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I guess it just makes me curious as to what a game that would fit your parameters of a 'good game' would look like---this was probably actually one of the better games I've played in a while (though I admit there is the distinct possibility that you are right and there is some slight 'town victory' bias.) Please don't leave again though, as I said in game, your play was pretty damn refreshing to experience in this day and age and perhaps more people will recognize what decent play looks like and strive to emulate? As an aside, is that why you decided to /out the Shadow game? Because if so I'd urge you to reconsider and take back your spot (from me, as it were)---most if not all of the players in that game will probably give you the kind of game you're looking for, and the more highly skilled players in that game, the better the experience will be for those who want to follow it as well. | ||
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On January 10 2014 11:23 kushm4sta wrote: Also, a lot of people don't read. They are busy one day, 30 pages behind, and it's just not an effective use of their time to try to read all that. Especially when most of it is spam/conversation. I defy you to find someone who doesn't read the games they play as often as you. Coag doesn't count. | ||
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On January 10 2014 11:57 kushm4sta wrote: chezinu oatsmaster cheesecake yamato and that's bs fuba.. I'm pretty certain you're wrong about Cheese and yamato, I'm pretty sure Chez trolls and reads at the same time (a novel though, I know) and Oats...well I'll grant you that one maybe but most of the time I would say he reads. I'm pretty sure every single game I've played with you you have to be badgered to actually play the game. I'm real glad that you seem to think it's acceptable and there are always a few people like thrawn who will stick up for you, but I don't care how it's spun, not reading a thread is against the rules. | ||
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On January 11 2014 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: But WC2 was probably one of your best town games i have seen and you were one of the few townies who should not be blamed about the loss. There is no reason to feel demotivated because of that. I'm pretty curious about WC2, because the sheer mention of that game infuriates me like no other. Which townies DO you feel can be blamed for that loss? (No hurt feelings here, I'm interested in your opinion.) | ||
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I think I need one of those 'big lynch/play' games (where it actually makes a difference). It's been too long for me. | ||
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On January 11 2014 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can tell you WoS if you are looking for big lynch / play games be prepared to fuck up royally in at least 70% of the time. That's annoying, at least if you are not able to laugh at yourself after the game.  Oh I usually can, even in WC2 itself where I completely blew it with my Vanesco read. (Not that it made a difference anyway) It's okay, starting in the next couple games I play I think I'm going to try some slightly different styles and see what happens. | ||
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On January 11 2014 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: You were obviously town. I don't have a problem of defending my team on D2, i am more afraid of people i can't possibly lynch in any way. And you being wrong on N1 does not mean you will be wrong at the end of D2. I'm not sure you can say 'obvious town' from a scum perspective especially if the rest of the thread at the time didn't agree. I think a situation like that is relative. Like I believed I was 'obvious town' but once again people saw fit to consistently vote you and Umasi in. | ||
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On January 11 2014 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: We shot ObviousOne because we thought you and him were the most obvious townies for people (at least after the night kill and when people actually re-evaluate D1 and N1). The reason we did not shoot you was because i thought you 100% won a blue role with me & Umasi and i blue-vigged you. But lol, Cephiro?!?!? lol I wish I could believe that it was some massively understood and secret town plan not to elect me because they knew you'd waste your blue-vig on me, but yeah just bad play it seems lol. I think I voted thrawn both times. | ||
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On January 11 2014 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well this is what at least i do every game. It usually also works, if not for my team then for the opposite team. haha I think in mafia games the biggest flaw for people is that they are afraid to make mistakes. I'm less afraid to be confident and assertive than I used to be, but there are other 'mistakes' that I am afraid to make and I often find myself curbing certain posts I am about to make as a result as town because I am afraid someone will view it in a bad light for whatever reason. Sometimes I get called out anyway despite me not seeing anything wrong with what I post (ie. the entry posts we talked about on TS, Rayn) and I don't recognize my mistakes, and other times what I think may be a mistake really wouldn't have been. I don't think 'mistake' in mafia is always as clear---there is not always a very clear 'right' or 'wrong' thing to post/do, and even when there are, often those things are susceptible to change as the TL meta changes. | ||
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On January 11 2014 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah i agree with the Desert thing. That was stupid. But i am impatient and i can't help it.  This is an interesting point. I have always considered it (obviously) from only my perspective, as i assume people are capable of thinking about scum/town motives and i feel like when i do stuff like that i am ALWAYS able to explain why, and why that is the only explanation (town motive) for what i do. But i know, you have a point, different people think differently. I should probably take that into account too. Haven't I told you this like 100 times? lol Also asking Geript in bluelightz really didn't show anything---it gave you what you wanted and you interpreted as a towntell but objectively his answer was not a towntell. | ||
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