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It's not much to go on, honestly.
I was thinking something similar to what you had when he didn't respond to my questions repeatedly but he actually ended up giving me a somewhat decent answer that correctly (imo) explains his thought process.
As for yours his explanation is a little convoluted but where you say it's only possible for scum to do what he did, I say it is entirely possible for town to lose thought processes/lie/have shitty explanations for things as well. If anything I'd be more inclined to know from thrawn why he felt the need to continually try to bait reactions in the first place?
What did you hope to gain from the bait on Rayn and your very first vote-bait?
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On January 08 2014 14:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:WoS can i lynch you if i find you doing this in Les Mafia? 
Umm...I'm going to say yes with the caveats that
a) I'm still too lazy to go back and check Les so if I'm wrong I willingly risk the tunnel-Rayn
b) My sole mafia game is probably not a good indication of meta.
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On January 08 2014 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 16:09 mkfuba07 wrote:On January 07 2014 16:04 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 07 2014 15:57 mkfuba07 wrote:I went to sleep. For countless reasons, my body was weak, and I've got my first day of classes tomorrow(/today) so I'd prefer to be strong! I was actually hoping to still be asleep right now, but my imagination keeps waking me up with stupid additions to a dream I was having. It's actually really frustrating... /rant over On January 07 2014 11:22 Corazon wrote:
I'm worried about Iamp. He seems to be attacking everyone nonsenically. Reminds me of scum Xatalos in Titanic II.
He's just trying to throw shit on people and see what sticks. This post made me lean scum on cora. Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that), but because he compares Iamp's play in this game to another player's play in a different game. There's no relation between the two aside from the fact that Cora wants to see Iamp as scummy. Like, if his argument is true (iamp is shitflinging), then the conclusion that he is scum follows naturally. The addition of Xatalos's play in another game makes it seem like he subconsciously knows his argument is weak and needs to legitimize it. I think you are scum because your opinion on Corazon depends on if Iamp was actually shitflinging. But earlier you said "Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that)" So you're not willing to do research into something that you say makes or breaks your read. My argument is the opposite. One would assume that cora actually perceived the shitflinging, or at least believes that we could interpret what he's said as shitflinging, but that's not at all a part of my opinion of him. My opinion involves him validating his accusation by comparing iamp's actions to a different scum player in a different game. Saying he's shitflinging and following it up by saying he seems scummy is fine. Saying it's scummy because this other scum did it in another game gives me the impression he finds his own argument weak. Like this is literally one of the towniest thought processes there are in thread and incredibly hard to fake as scum, especially considering we are talking about fuba here, who's not played scum much (maybe once or twice?).
/agree
Not a HUGE fan of meta but I've seen fuba's scumplay and it's.....painful.
This is way too coherent and useful to be scum imo.
(Fuba this does not mean you have an excuse to fuck off---help us lynch scum!)
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On January 08 2014 14:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 14:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
As for yours his explanation is a little convoluted but where you say it's only possible for scum to do what he did, I say it is entirely possible for town to lose thought processes/lie/have shitty explanations for things as well. If anything I'd be more inclined to know from thrawn why he felt the need to continually try to bait reactions in the first place?
Okay so do you think it's reasonable to lose your train of thought in 14 minutes as thrawn is suggesting happened? Also do you buy his explanation of being too stoned and how does it make sense because before the argument yamato politely asked thrawn to not post if he does not have a clear head?
Well the second sentence is meh because if one doesn't have a clear head in the first place they're bound not to follow instructions like that
As for the first one I suppose you have a point...? But then you're suggesting I guess that his original entire excuse and way to defend himself was 'guise I'm too high to play mafia' which seems like a terrible thing to do as scum. People have been lynched for way less.
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On January 08 2014 14:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 14:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 08 2014 14:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:WoS can i lynch you if i find you doing this in Les Mafia? Umm...I'm going to say yes with the caveats that a) I'm still too lazy to go back and check Les so if I'm wrong I willingly risk the tunnel-Rayn b) My sole mafia game is probably not a good indication of meta. But you just said you have never done so. I believe you that you have not done so in your town games as lying about it as mafia does not make sense if you have in fact done so as town. If you are however mafia and have done that as mafia before you might intentionally or sub-consiously repeat the behavior.
An interesting hypothesis.
As I said you have my blessing to test it, but technically (if you are town) you will only truly know the results after I flip/at endgame.
I can tell you that it will not prove what you want it to, because I am town and as such:
a) if I did not use it in Les, then me not using it here doesn't prove anything.
b) if I DID use it in Les and I use it here then I myself am wrong but then so are you
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On January 08 2014 14:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No you actually do the opposite and answer all the cases there are and give opinions on them so definitely does not make you scum based on meta.
What? I don't understand this post.
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On January 08 2014 15:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 14:56 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 08 2014 14:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 08 2014 14:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
As for yours his explanation is a little convoluted but where you say it's only possible for scum to do what he did, I say it is entirely possible for town to lose thought processes/lie/have shitty explanations for things as well. If anything I'd be more inclined to know from thrawn why he felt the need to continually try to bait reactions in the first place?
Okay so do you think it's reasonable to lose your train of thought in 14 minutes as thrawn is suggesting happened? Also do you buy his explanation of being too stoned and how does it make sense because before the argument yamato politely asked thrawn to not post if he does not have a clear head? Well the second sentence is meh because if one doesn't have a clear head in the first place they're bound not to follow instructions like that As for the first one I suppose you have a point...? But then you're suggesting I guess that his original entire excuse and way to defend himself was 'guise I'm too high to play mafia' which seems like a terrible thing to do as scum. People have been lynched for way less. And i have only been lynched as mafia because i was too drunk.
lol posts like this make me want to policy lynch you every game so eventually you can't say that anymore
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On January 08 2014 15:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 15:00 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 08 2014 14:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No you actually do the opposite and answer all the cases there are and give opinions on them so definitely does not make you scum based on meta. What? I don't understand this post. I read your D1 in Les.
I gambled and won!
But wait, for bonus points, did I not do that in this game?
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On January 08 2014 15:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are either lazy or scum and you should stop being lazy if you are town.
Wat.
How exactly am I lazy aside from asking you to link a case for me? I don't think I've been lazy in the slightest.
And I'm not following where the 'or scum' comes from either.
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On January 08 2014 15:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 15:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 08 2014 15:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are either lazy or scum and you should stop being lazy if you are town. Wat. How exactly am I lazy aside from asking you to link a case for me? I don't think I've been lazy in the slightest. And I'm not following where the 'or scum' comes from either. Because town players are interested in figuring out stuff and commenting on most interesting topics there are in the thread. Regardless of your alignment you either think my case is not good or for some other reason you did not want to comment on it. When i specifically asked you to comment on it you didn't even remember the case and wanted me to point out where the case was. That suggests to me you are not reading the thread closely (as you did not remember the case at all) which means you are lazy, or that you for some reason didn't want to either +1 my case or tell me you think the case is bad or does not make thrawn mafia. If it is "for some reason" i can't think of a townie reason and if you were not lazy i think you are scum.
Your bias because you noticed I didn't specifically comment on your case or remember it doesn't make me scum OR lazy.
How do I have to point that out to you?
Like wtf is this? Just because I don't comment or agree with you I immediately must be working against you?
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On January 08 2014 15:35 yamato77 wrote:Let's see here: Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is trying to figure out my alignment and does not give a shit what everyone (including me) thinks about it.
He is doing stuff his own way, which is not what he does as mafia. This is accurate. Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 00:46 mkfuba07 wrote:
The weather outside is frightful -_- Just popping in while I have a few minutes before my first class of the quarter :D
yamato: do you still think my argument about cora makes no sense after I elaborated?
rayn: You said my post made perfect sense, but cora isn't on your scumread list. Por que? Makes sense once you elaborated. As an aside, I do find Cora a somewhat decent lynch target for today given the way he's ridden his "attack" of me as a real contribution to the game. But more on that later when I elaborate on my reads. Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 09:32 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 08 2014 09:27 Corazon wrote:
It's hard to talk to you, WBG. You act like a giant dickwad when some disagrees with you. No. I acted like a dickwad to both you and JAT because you're both proving you can't fucking read. in your case it's probably because you're scum. Kush deserves mountains of shit for being a completely worthless player. I do love WBG, I'm pretty confident he's town. He could be tryharding mafia, but there's no point in him getting worked up and putting in so much effort when so many players in this game are not doing so UNLESS he is town. Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 08 2014 10:23 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 08 2014 10:20 Corazon wrote:On January 08 2014 10:14 iamperfection wrote:
and corzan can you explain how bugs is scum when he decided to go on a huge rant with everyone look at me attitude. Sure seems like to me a non scum thing to do. It's easy for scum to fake that. His logic was not even good. He started calling me dumb because I asked him to actually contribute when he said he wouldn't until I did. He blatantly admitted to not have read the thread and he decided to attack kush, who at the time had 0 posts, and called him stupid until he did some random 180 and called kush town (while keeping his vote on him). He then OMGUSs me when I call him out for it. To me, it looks faked and it looks like he just wants to survive. I'm sorry, what? Most of this shit is just blatantly wrong or misleading. On January 08 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Bring it, suckas.
JAT:
Until prodded endlessly by WBG, he contributed nothing to the thread besides the nitpicking of other people's posts and reads and providing none of his own. Not a huge fan of his posting thus far---a little too 'fence-sitty' for my liking but whateva.
Iamp can I have a looky at you next? Yamato, please. I want to hear your thoughts on him. I'd lynch him atm actually. ##Vote: yamatoI'm used to WAY more effort from him on any given D1 at this point. Too much one-liner, too much shutting down of discussion and negativity---and while he's capable of this as town, he's also capable of better play and I don't mind punishing him. Seriously threatening him is also often a good way to get something good out of him one way or another; see LXIII or LXI for examples. Yamato LOVES being tha D1 lynch. This is an absolute shit reason for voting for me. He doesn't think I'm mafia (nor will he call me mafia), but he's content voting me, and perhaps even lynching me, as punishment for "poor play". This is the second time he's mentioned this exact reasoning, yet it now comes with a vote attached as other players begin to jump on the wagon. Coincidence? WoS will join Corazon in an exposition post later on. Also joining them will be the surprise secret guest, whom I will push a lynch on! Because he's mafia!
Oh rearry yamato?
Show me who else was on the yamato wagon when I 'jumped on.'
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On January 08 2014 15:42 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 15:37 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 08 2014 15:35 yamato77 wrote:Let's see here: On January 08 2014 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He is trying to figure out my alignment and does not give a shit what everyone (including me) thinks about it.
He is doing stuff his own way, which is not what he does as mafia. This is accurate. On January 08 2014 00:46 mkfuba07 wrote:
The weather outside is frightful -_- Just popping in while I have a few minutes before my first class of the quarter :D
yamato: do you still think my argument about cora makes no sense after I elaborated?
rayn: You said my post made perfect sense, but cora isn't on your scumread list. Por que? Makes sense once you elaborated. As an aside, I do find Cora a somewhat decent lynch target for today given the way he's ridden his "attack" of me as a real contribution to the game. But more on that later when I elaborate on my reads. On January 08 2014 09:32 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 08 2014 09:27 Corazon wrote:
It's hard to talk to you, WBG. You act like a giant dickwad when some disagrees with you. No. I acted like a dickwad to both you and JAT because you're both proving you can't fucking read. in your case it's probably because you're scum. Kush deserves mountains of shit for being a completely worthless player. I do love WBG, I'm pretty confident he's town. He could be tryharding mafia, but there's no point in him getting worked up and putting in so much effort when so many players in this game are not doing so UNLESS he is town. On January 08 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 08 2014 10:23 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 08 2014 10:20 Corazon wrote:On January 08 2014 10:14 iamperfection wrote:
and corzan can you explain how bugs is scum when he decided to go on a huge rant with everyone look at me attitude. Sure seems like to me a non scum thing to do. It's easy for scum to fake that. His logic was not even good. He started calling me dumb because I asked him to actually contribute when he said he wouldn't until I did. He blatantly admitted to not have read the thread and he decided to attack kush, who at the time had 0 posts, and called him stupid until he did some random 180 and called kush town (while keeping his vote on him). He then OMGUSs me when I call him out for it. To me, it looks faked and it looks like he just wants to survive. I'm sorry, what? Most of this shit is just blatantly wrong or misleading. On January 08 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Bring it, suckas.
JAT:
Until prodded endlessly by WBG, he contributed nothing to the thread besides the nitpicking of other people's posts and reads and providing none of his own. Not a huge fan of his posting thus far---a little too 'fence-sitty' for my liking but whateva.
Iamp can I have a looky at you next? Yamato, please. I want to hear your thoughts on him. I'd lynch him atm actually. ##Vote: yamatoI'm used to WAY more effort from him on any given D1 at this point. Too much one-liner, too much shutting down of discussion and negativity---and while he's capable of this as town, he's also capable of better play and I don't mind punishing him. Seriously threatening him is also often a good way to get something good out of him one way or another; see LXIII or LXI for examples. Yamato LOVES being tha D1 lynch. This is an absolute shit reason for voting for me. He doesn't think I'm mafia (nor will he call me mafia), but he's content voting me, and perhaps even lynching me, as punishment for "poor play". This is the second time he's mentioned this exact reasoning, yet it now comes with a vote attached as other players begin to jump on the wagon. Coincidence? WoS will join Corazon in an exposition post later on. Also joining them will be the surprise secret guest, whom I will push a lynch on! Because he's mafia! Oh rearry yamato? Show me who else was on the yamato wagon when I 'jumped on.' Plenty of people had called me mafia or stated suspicion of me by the time you decided to vote for me. But still, the main point is just how scummy your reasoning is. You don't even necessarily think, that how i'm playing makes me mafia, you just want to lynch me for it. It sounds like a circular way for a mafia player to justify voting for a player they know is town. Plus, I'm apparently your only read in this game and the rest of your posts have been extraordinarily useless, as Rayn has been nice enough to point out.
My posts have not in any way been extraordinarily useless. I have given reads on multiple people (WBG/fuba/iamp/Cora), commented on cases and done a shit ton more than you have. Don't you DARE lecture me on usefulness just because you've finally decided to show your ass up and actually play the game.
So scumteam is me Cora and surprise guest?
GG guys, we'd better concede, yamato wins.
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Cry about it.
I'm off to bed.
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On January 08 2014 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a sidenote i really don't think WoS has made a lot of sense.
As much as I enjoy vague blanket statements about my play, dare I ask what you're referring to this time?
Be back in 30 min-ish.
And I have stuff to say.
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On January 08 2014 23:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really WoS, no. You're not getting lynched today either way so i'd rather not waste time on it now instead of the people i see possibly getting lynched.
I'm not?
You and yamato seem pretty keen on steering this way based on all you've said thus far, though I do admit I find it curious neither of you bothered to vote for the stronger of your shared scumreads during your little circlejerk session.
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It's shit like this.
Nobody would ever support a switch to him to punish this kind of play but FUCK
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Artanis don't bother.
Essentially we decide to remove him for this or we don't but otherwise I don't see a point in engaging him on the matter.
There are other things to determine---now that CC has apparently surfaced as a tangible target I should have a look.
I'm also not completely set on yamato, despite popular belief and the current voting patterns.
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Iamp, same thing I said to Artanis. There are better things to do than to argue with him.
As I read into CC I must wonder....wtf happened to gumshoe?
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Alright gave Cheese a good readthrough as well as Artanis's problems with him---
To the thread: I ask you, do you really find the weak CC push onto Artanis on its own lynchworthy?
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Ohai yamato.
I almost wonder if bugs and co. took a pressure vote on you and are running away with it.
All things considered I can't say I have a problem with it currently, 'cause you're doing stuff now, aren't you?
I give you:
On January 07 2014 11:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
For the record if you want to get yamato to contribute, just threaten to lynch him for a really bad reason.
Works every time.
^.^
Welcome Rayn and Cora.
Cheese I as well have seen that happen multiple times. Sadly I have seen games where most of the inactives are town just as often if not more often than the ones where the inactives are scum.
You're very welcome to attempt to 'murder' me over this, but I'd say mission accomplished from my POV even if you had your own designs from the start. I also think if you look through the posts where I talk to you/mention you, this fits.
Now as far as the legitimate reasons people have for wanting you dead, I can identify with some of those, and any posts where I commented on your play or lack thereof early in the day I stand by, but I don't feel quite as strongly in you being scum as some people.
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