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Well since I don't want to lynch kush and I am undecided on OP....
##Vote: strongandbig
Else I die.
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On September 14 2013 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 02:33 kushm4sta wrote:
I totally get the desire to plynch me. What are the wagons you (town) blubblers (prolly town) SnB (totally scum)
K then I guess I'll vote blubbers.
Too hard to do our from my phone so I'll do it in a few hours
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Yeah I think I am going to go for blubbers as well.
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I don't agree with S&B as the best lynch.
Rayn is taking S&B's post way out of proportion. Firstly the timing, I don't believe that S&B legitimately came in with that post only because he saw people turning on Rayn. I remember S&B was legitimately busy in GoT and he wrote in the post that you quoted that he was posting from his phone while in class. there is some auto-correct in there that makes me more inclined to believe that. (lynches---> Lunches).
tldr I think S&B is legitimately busy.
Besides that the post does have an opinion on you, it's exactly like how Pandain wrote out his suspicion of me. (the one that I interpreted to him calling me bad rather than scum).
*Grack is using words such as "feels like, and defending himself a lot, so I'm suspicious but I'm not sure he is scum."
"Rayn's usual scum meta is to spend too much time arguing over minor nuances of posts rather than the big picture... but I'm not sure that he is scum."
Sure I want to see more from S&B and it's still possible that he is scum but there is not a strong case for him today.
@Rayn: Why did you change your mind on OP.
OP has done several things I consider scummy and should be the lynch of choice for today.
I haven't gotten a chance to look at Zealos scum history yet but if I see some merit to it then I may be open to switching to him as well.
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grack what do you think of blub?
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On September 14 2013 01:50 blubbdavid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 01:42 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 14 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 14 2013 01:37 Papa_Smurf wrote:
I dont see why you are pushing a 4th wagon at this point in the day oats What 4th wagon? Also, I dont see anything but me shouting VOTE OP. Why arent you voting for OP? Second read is Blubb. Op is a fourth wagon. We have only 5 hours left and limited knowldge of who will be here before lynch. Bettwr to concentrate on the 3 main candidates at hand Yes, let's concentrate, and you may very well start with it. What do you think of SnB? Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 14 2013 01:14 blubbdavid wrote:On September 14 2013 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok snb's case is bad, dunno if it makes him scum.
I still wanna lynch blubbdavid for being like blendy and stuff. His push on Koshi is really newb town or scum.
And his next post is bad too, calling out Grack for nothing really.
Lol, I may be bad and confused and stuff, but not blendy. NOT BLENDY. My case on Koshi, Grack (where some people agreed with me) and Zealos are pioneering work. And I am calling Zealos out because of that wagonhopping and non-contributions of his. My own views on SnB don't matter in this case. @rayn I will vote for SnB if it is required. This isnt addressing. All the shit you are pointing out from Koshi and Zealous and Grack are all like non alignment indicative. Yeah sure all the stuff you pointed out scum do, BUT TOWN DO TO. You wanting to vote for SnB to save yourself even though you dont really think he is scum is scummy cause if town die, its not as big a deal for them as scum dying. If I really was scum I could have made it much, much, fucking much more easier for me. Then I wouldn't even have started with Zealos. Or do you think that both me and SnB are scum? And we are trying to evaluate who to sacrifice? Rly? btw a little tip oats: look out for papa smurf
I'm pretty sure "starting on" the least active player in the game is a safe bet as scum, just saying~
Also, pls guys, my name is above my posts and at the start of the game.
ZEALOS /=/ Zealous : D
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Grackaroni did you even look at the post where i expose SnB as straight out lying?
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I'm cool with OP and SAB atm.
I haven't really read zealos too much, will look at him for the five minutes I have.
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On September 14 2013 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Grackaroni did you even look at the post where i expose SnB as straight out lying?
can you quote it for me quickly, you have a long filter
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zealos is also someone I don't want to lynch today, after glancing at his filter.
gotta go to class, laters.
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I could lynch zealots as well
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On September 14 2013 02:52 kushm4sta wrote:
I could lynch zealots as well
Gosh
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Bro if you pick a name by face rolling your keyboard my phone's gonna butcher it
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On September 14 2013 02:50 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Grackaroni did you even look at the post where i expose SnB as straight out lying? can you quote it for me quickly, you have a long filter
On September 13 2013 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Debears, i have a question for you. This is SnB's post about me and his notes: Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 03:18 strongandbig wrote:Hey guys Posting from phone in class Posting notes: + Show Spoiler +
Partner wants to know if I have a scum read on koshi
I don't like pandaman's role name reasoning. No reason hosts can't mix up the roles or give scum safe fake claims. Also from his post his opinions are basically easy ones - kush needs to straighten up. No lurking. Super scummy opening post IMO.
Then in his next post grack makes a decent attack but twists pandaman's argument - he didn't say lynch grack cause he's bad. He said lunch grack cause he's noncommittal.
Ppl talking about me finding debears smurf slip as coach. I clicked profile and last posts on his account. Not very hard to do.
I like Ryan's first four posts/entry into the thread. Okay wait maybe not - rayne is quibbling about old partners questions with koshi but asking about stupid things...
Rayen says that good karma looks good about the early day 1 quarrel - wtf where did this come from...
Ryan's reasons for saying that grack is scum are also terrible. And he keeps going on about panda in being better than old partner but they just feel completely different...
Anyway non rayne notes.
Fracks case on blubbdavod interesting . Go reread.
Wtf is up with snoman yelling about onegu
Here's the thing with Ryan. He argues and gets in people's faces and posts a million times as either alignment. The biggest difference is when he's scum he argues about things that don't matter and don't move the town forward, but when he's town he actually pushes on points that are important. (2): Just compare his scum filter from game of thrones and compare that to his town filter from aperture 2, the difference is obvious. (3): My first reaction is "this is scum Ryan". He's arguing a lot about old partners questions from early in the game but he's finding quibbles and there's no way what koshi thinks of those questions is remotely worth the amount of text Ryan puts in. Ditto for the arguing about whether grack could really have changed his mind for the reasons he said. (4): I'm not sure about rayne though. For me it's always hard to figure him out for sure because of how constantly interactive he is even as scum. One other thing - I think panda in is scum. His post was that bad and opening posts are inportant. He had only easy scum opinions - lunch kush, lurkers bad - in that post. plus he has obviously bad reasoning on role names and bad justification for his town reads on me, va, and gk. like, what townie sees someone whose only comment on the main issues in the thread was "that's silly" and says "oh yes that guy is town, the whole thread really was a distraction." Plus I don't think vayne was moving the thread forward as much as shouting at people/being aggro, and it was really easy for me to click on papasmirf's profile button. None of those strike me as townie reasons for townreads. Right now I want to lynch pandaman's. however, before I vote I want to reread the blurb case as well. Anyway I have a problem set due tmo so I'm probably not gonna be voting until tomorrow morning. (1): Do you agree with what SnB says here? Having played with me in Desert. Because as town, when i get into the bad tunnel mode (which usually happens) am i then "pushing the town forward"? (2) & (4): This is SnB's first post in Aperture mafia: + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2013 23:47 strongandbig wrote:Hey DI I'd rather do all three of the things you said than the one you didn't. Anyway: Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 10:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 30 2013 10:26 Blazinghand wrote:
The thing is cora I don't think this is alignment indicative. You're giving shit reasons and swearing at people would definitely be scum aligned (Trying to shit up the thread) if it weren't for the fact that I know you. I know how butthurt you get, how emotional you get, how irrational you are. How all the drama on TL Mafia just HAPPENS to swirl around you. You're clearly butthurt and don't even want to admit it, because let's be real here: you have no reason to be a dick to wave (even if he too is being a dick) and saying "fuck you" and your policy shit on Oats doesn't make sense. You're playing against town/thread cohesion which is fairly impressive given how hard it is to do that when the game is barely begun.
Three theories, none of which you like
1) cora is scum
2) cora is really really mind bogglingly bad
3) cora is butthurt
one of these fits quite well with your personality What about 4) Cora is trying to get killed/lynched? There are certainly a lot of people I'm going to have to ignore this game, golly gosh. On August 30 2013 10:26 geript wrote:
@WoS I need a number on a scale from 1 to bitch please. Where does 'Are you fo realz?!?!' fit? This one is so clearly wrong it kind of makes me want to kill wos. Cora was obviously butthurt, but he also had posts where he was trying to play the game. neither of those points to jester. What's the thought process here? It really feels like saying something just for the sake of saying it. More importantly, Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 10:30 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 30 2013 10:26 Blazinghand wrote:
The thing is cora I don't think this is alignment indicative. You're giving shit reasons and swearing at people would definitely be scum aligned (Trying to shit up the thread) if it weren't for the fact that I know you. I know how butthurt you get, how emotional you get, how irrational you are. How all the drama on TL Mafia just HAPPENS to swirl around you. You're clearly butthurt and don't even want to admit it, because let's be real here: you have no reason to be a dick to wave (even if he too is being a dick) and saying "fuck you" and your policy shit on Oats doesn't make sense. You're playing against town/thread cohesion which is fairly impressive given how hard it is to do that when the game is barely begun.
Three theories, none of which you like
1) cora is scum
2) cora is really really mind bogglingly bad
3) cora is butthurt
one of these fits quite well with your personality This is an awful lot of words to say "I have no opinion on Cora yet" and "I still attest that you're, in fact, butthurt." A lot. Sup BH? VE what happened to this? BH is clearly not playing to his town "persona". As well as not responding to alakaslam like I would expect. I'm really not sure why but I'm thinking it might be alignment indicative. Also, No one else reveal their item names. I don't remember who but someone earlier in the thread said their item was used by someone else to build a doomsday machine. It seems likely that this doomsday machine has multiple pieces that need to be collected and something like the "null talisman" could easily be part of it.. Okay that was still koshi speculating about his item. Still given the rift destabilization mechanic from before and the fate counter, it's kind of likely that someone bad wants townies' items. One last thing - Ryan is town. Scum I'm giving you this townread for free to help direct your night kills plz kill him. This is SnB's post from Aperture mafia post game: + Show Spoiler +On September 11 2013 23:35 strongandbig wrote:
Rayn you were obvy town to anyone who played with you in our previous game.
Getting shot by scum N2 always makes me feel good as a townie but this puts me on a pretty impressive losing streak. I think it's like four or five in a row? Cba to check ATM.
Tbh though I don't feel bad about pretty much anything I did this game except forgetting to use my role night 1. The hassy lynch was unfortunate but given the claims from him and Kita plus his filter I think it was the right choice. I was totes right that alakazam should have been the second lynch that day, lame that he wasn't but since he ragequit or whatever that was okay. I was also right about VE not being town and the rest of my reads were not too bad.
Oh also I really don't know why people are saying the axle lynch was so bad. I was dead by that point, but how it looked to me was that he'd been trying to get other people to go along with an unknown plan the whole game, then when he was under pressure from town to reveal what it was he just shut up and afk'd. Seriously if he had just claimed before going to sleep or if he'd showed up again before deadline there's no way he would've been lunched, but just shutting up made it seem like town had no choice but to lunch him. Now that you have read the posts, compare it to SnB's post this game, does this support the argument i am "hard to read" for SnB? (3): I argued about OP's questions because i thought they were bad. SnB is saying me arguing about them is scummy (so he thinks the questions were good then i assume?). If the questions were good in his opinion, why does he not bring up the fact that NOBODY other than ayne in fact answered OP? SnB didn't HIMSELF answer OP's questions.
(5): Look at his notes (spoilered in his post). What do you see? Right, notes about me. Nothing else. Why is he so fixated in me and nothing else in this game? And even if that can be explained, why is his conclusion of me (the rest of his post) full of invalid arguments and in fact there is no conclusion at all..
Do you think SnB's post is "insightful" and "good"? Because (in addition, given the timing of the post) to me the post is full of crap and scummy.
THIS IS ALSO THE ONLY CONTRIBUTION TO THE GAME SNB HAS GIVEN. EVERY SINGLE OTHER PLAYER HAS BEEN MORE USEFUL FFS!!
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So now that I change my vote, zealos and OP become legit targets again? Goddamn I have bad luck.
On September 14 2013 02:49 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 01:50 blubbdavid wrote:On September 14 2013 01:42 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 14 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 14 2013 01:37 Papa_Smurf wrote:
I dont see why you are pushing a 4th wagon at this point in the day oats What 4th wagon? Also, I dont see anything but me shouting VOTE OP. Why arent you voting for OP? Second read is Blubb. Op is a fourth wagon. We have only 5 hours left and limited knowldge of who will be here before lynch. Bettwr to concentrate on the 3 main candidates at hand Yes, let's concentrate, and you may very well start with it. What do you think of SnB? On September 14 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 14 2013 01:14 blubbdavid wrote:On September 14 2013 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok snb's case is bad, dunno if it makes him scum.
I still wanna lynch blubbdavid for being like blendy and stuff. His push on Koshi is really newb town or scum.
And his next post is bad too, calling out Grack for nothing really.
Lol, I may be bad and confused and stuff, but not blendy. NOT BLENDY. My case on Koshi, Grack (where some people agreed with me) and Zealos are pioneering work. And I am calling Zealos out because of that wagonhopping and non-contributions of his. My own views on SnB don't matter in this case. @rayn I will vote for SnB if it is required. This isnt addressing. All the shit you are pointing out from Koshi and Zealous and Grack are all like non alignment indicative. Yeah sure all the stuff you pointed out scum do, BUT TOWN DO TO. You wanting to vote for SnB to save yourself even though you dont really think he is scum is scummy cause if town die, its not as big a deal for them as scum dying. If I really was scum I could have made it much, much, fucking much more easier for me. Then I wouldn't even have started with Zealos. Or do you think that both me and SnB are scum? And we are trying to evaluate who to sacrifice? Rly? btw a little tip oats: look out for papa smurf I'm pretty sure "starting on" the least active player in the game is a safe bet as scum, just saying~ Also, pls guys, my name is above my posts and at the start of the game. ZEALOS /=/ Zealous : D After all that time is this the only defense you can muster up? And the least active player at that time was Onegu/Oats.
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You are right Rayne. Snb is a fine lynch imo.
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On September 14 2013 02:56 blubbdavid wrote:So now that I change my vote, zealos and OP become legit targets again? Goddamn I have bad luck. Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 02:49 Zealos wrote:On September 14 2013 01:50 blubbdavid wrote:On September 14 2013 01:42 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 14 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 14 2013 01:37 Papa_Smurf wrote:
I dont see why you are pushing a 4th wagon at this point in the day oats What 4th wagon? Also, I dont see anything but me shouting VOTE OP. Why arent you voting for OP? Second read is Blubb. Op is a fourth wagon. We have only 5 hours left and limited knowldge of who will be here before lynch. Bettwr to concentrate on the 3 main candidates at hand Yes, let's concentrate, and you may very well start with it. What do you think of SnB? On September 14 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 14 2013 01:14 blubbdavid wrote:On September 14 2013 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok snb's case is bad, dunno if it makes him scum.
I still wanna lynch blubbdavid for being like blendy and stuff. His push on Koshi is really newb town or scum.
And his next post is bad too, calling out Grack for nothing really.
Lol, I may be bad and confused and stuff, but not blendy. NOT BLENDY. My case on Koshi, Grack (where some people agreed with me) and Zealos are pioneering work. And I am calling Zealos out because of that wagonhopping and non-contributions of his. My own views on SnB don't matter in this case. @rayn I will vote for SnB if it is required. This isnt addressing. All the shit you are pointing out from Koshi and Zealous and Grack are all like non alignment indicative. Yeah sure all the stuff you pointed out scum do, BUT TOWN DO TO. You wanting to vote for SnB to save yourself even though you dont really think he is scum is scummy cause if town die, its not as big a deal for them as scum dying. If I really was scum I could have made it much, much, fucking much more easier for me. Then I wouldn't even have started with Zealos. Or do you think that both me and SnB are scum? And we are trying to evaluate who to sacrifice? Rly? btw a little tip oats: look out for papa smurf I'm pretty sure "starting on" the least active player in the game is a safe bet as scum, just saying~ Also, pls guys, my name is above my posts and at the start of the game. ZEALOS /=/ Zealous : D After all that time is this the only defense you can muster up? And the least active player at that time was Onegu/Oats.
It's not a defense. A defense would be me trying to stop you voting for me. I didn't do that. I pointed out that what you said about me being a difficult target is a load of tripe.
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The problem I have here rayn is my gut reads are usually decent and I didn't get the scum feeling from SnB's opening post. If you ever confirm as town I could look into SnB more but for right now the lynch for me is between blubb, koshi, or OP.
I don't really know what you see as town in koshi, he is posting weird stuff and his lists just consist of all strong players = town all lurkers/baddies = scum. Then he leaves me/WoS as maybes so he can lynch us at endgame.
wtf is he doing that's town exactly? Granted im terrible at reading him but this reminds me of sicilian where he just rode vivax's dick to victory. Now he's using yours.
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Gosh, it is not about who I targeted but about the fact THAT I targeted somebody. I just could have jumped the SnB boat easily. And are you not defending because you feel safe?
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On September 14 2013 02:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
The problem I have here rayn is my gut reads are usually decent and I didn't get the scum feeling from SnB's opening post. If you ever confirm as town I could look into SnB more but for right now the lynch for me is between blubb, koshi, or OP.
I don't really know what you see as town in koshi, he is posting weird stuff and his lists just consist of all strong players = town all lurkers/baddies = scum. Then he leaves me/WoS as maybes so he can lynch us at endgame.
wtf is he doing that's town exactly? Granted im terrible at reading him but this reminds me of sicilian where he just rode vivax's dick to victory. Now he's using yours.
So evul. So evul.
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