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On September 14 2013 00:56 blubbdavid wrote:
Let's 1) be since it is not my main reason
2) It is ok that he agrees with reasons. But you must take a look at the silent evidence: Thus far Zealos has not contributed anything useful, not even to SnB's case. Some of us even want(ed) to shoot him because of his lurking. Now, if he were a townie, why doesn't he step up and compensate his absence with some good analysis and reads? Instead, he takes the easy way. I really want to know what he thinks about me.
3) Mind to repost the implied lines, so that we don't get confused?
I am pretty neutral on SnB and if you and Koshi want to lynch him, go ahead. On the other hand it is just inexcusable for Zealos to hop on the wagon and contribute nothing after a long time lurking. I am repeating myself.
Still want to know papa's stance on SnB.
2) I still don't think him voting for the target he feels like is best makes him scum, but you are right, he could do more. Ask him about his read on you. Make him talk.
3)
On September 13 2013 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:(1): Do you agree with what SnB says here? Having played with me in Desert. Because as town, when i get into the bad tunnel mode (which usually happens) am i then "pushing the town forward"? (2) & (4): This is SnB's first post in Aperture mafia: + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2013 23:47 strongandbig wrote:Hey DI I'd rather do all three of the things you said than the one you didn't. Anyway: Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 10:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 30 2013 10:26 Blazinghand wrote:
The thing is cora I don't think this is alignment indicative. You're giving shit reasons and swearing at people would definitely be scum aligned (Trying to shit up the thread) if it weren't for the fact that I know you. I know how butthurt you get, how emotional you get, how irrational you are. How all the drama on TL Mafia just HAPPENS to swirl around you. You're clearly butthurt and don't even want to admit it, because let's be real here: you have no reason to be a dick to wave (even if he too is being a dick) and saying "fuck you" and your policy shit on Oats doesn't make sense. You're playing against town/thread cohesion which is fairly impressive given how hard it is to do that when the game is barely begun.
Three theories, none of which you like
1) cora is scum
2) cora is really really mind bogglingly bad
3) cora is butthurt
one of these fits quite well with your personality What about 4) Cora is trying to get killed/lynched? There are certainly a lot of people I'm going to have to ignore this game, golly gosh. On August 30 2013 10:26 geript wrote:
@WoS I need a number on a scale from 1 to bitch please. Where does 'Are you fo realz?!?!' fit? This one is so clearly wrong it kind of makes me want to kill wos. Cora was obviously butthurt, but he also had posts where he was trying to play the game. neither of those points to jester. What's the thought process here? It really feels like saying something just for the sake of saying it. More importantly, Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 10:30 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 30 2013 10:26 Blazinghand wrote:
The thing is cora I don't think this is alignment indicative. You're giving shit reasons and swearing at people would definitely be scum aligned (Trying to shit up the thread) if it weren't for the fact that I know you. I know how butthurt you get, how emotional you get, how irrational you are. How all the drama on TL Mafia just HAPPENS to swirl around you. You're clearly butthurt and don't even want to admit it, because let's be real here: you have no reason to be a dick to wave (even if he too is being a dick) and saying "fuck you" and your policy shit on Oats doesn't make sense. You're playing against town/thread cohesion which is fairly impressive given how hard it is to do that when the game is barely begun.
Three theories, none of which you like
1) cora is scum
2) cora is really really mind bogglingly bad
3) cora is butthurt
one of these fits quite well with your personality This is an awful lot of words to say "I have no opinion on Cora yet" and "I still attest that you're, in fact, butthurt." A lot. Sup BH? VE what happened to this? BH is clearly not playing to his town "persona". As well as not responding to alakaslam like I would expect. I'm really not sure why but I'm thinking it might be alignment indicative. Also, No one else reveal their item names. I don't remember who but someone earlier in the thread said their item was used by someone else to build a doomsday machine. It seems likely that this doomsday machine has multiple pieces that need to be collected and something like the "null talisman" could easily be part of it.. Okay that was still koshi speculating about his item. Still given the rift destabilization mechanic from before and the fate counter, it's kind of likely that someone bad wants townies' items. One last thing - Ryan is town. Scum I'm giving you this townread for free to help direct your night kills plz kill him. This is SnB's post from Aperture mafia post game: + Show Spoiler +On September 11 2013 23:35 strongandbig wrote:
Rayn you were obvy town to anyone who played with you in our previous game.
Getting shot by scum N2 always makes me feel good as a townie but this puts me on a pretty impressive losing streak. I think it's like four or five in a row? Cba to check ATM.
Tbh though I don't feel bad about pretty much anything I did this game except forgetting to use my role night 1. The hassy lynch was unfortunate but given the claims from him and Kita plus his filter I think it was the right choice. I was totes right that alakazam should have been the second lynch that day, lame that he wasn't but since he ragequit or whatever that was okay. I was also right about VE not being town and the rest of my reads were not too bad.
Oh also I really don't know why people are saying the axle lynch was so bad. I was dead by that point, but how it looked to me was that he'd been trying to get other people to go along with an unknown plan the whole game, then when he was under pressure from town to reveal what it was he just shut up and afk'd. Seriously if he had just claimed before going to sleep or if he'd showed up again before deadline there's no way he would've been lunched, but just shutting up made it seem like town had no choice but to lunch him. Now that you have read the posts, compare it to SnB's post this game, does this support the argument i am "hard to read" for SnB? (3): I argued about OP's questions because i thought they were bad. SnB is saying me arguing about them is scummy (so he thinks the questions were good then i assume?). If the questions were good in his opinion, why does he not bring up the fact that NOBODY other than ayne in fact answered OP? SnB didn't HIMSELF answer OP's questions.
(5): Look at his notes (spoilered in his post). What do you see? Right, notes about me. Nothing else. Why is he so fixated in me and nothing else in this game? And even if that can be explained, why is his conclusion of me (the rest of his post) full of invalid arguments and in fact there is no conclusion at all..
Do you think SnB's post is "insightful" and "good"? Because (in addition, given the timing of the post) to me the post is full of crap and scummy.
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ok snb's case is bad, dunno if it makes him scum.
I still wanna lynch blubbdavid for being like blendy and stuff. His push on Koshi is really newb town or scum.
And his next post is bad too, calling out Grack for nothing really.
On September 12 2013 21:31 blubbdavid wrote:Atm I have three scumreads: Koshi, Grack and Kush Koshi for aforementioned reasons. Kush for his valuable contributions. And Grack: Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 14:31 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 13:24 Pandain wrote:
I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to fully make my thoughts fully comprehensible and eloquent, instead I will just get them written down. College struggles.
Alot of what I was going to say was already said by WoS Old Panther, however I have some comments to them.
VA seems town due to the fact he's actively moving the thread forward for a long time.
GK seems town(recognizing the one argument was silly and a distraction)
I agree with OP's catch on SnB reading up on Papasmurf coaching meaning that snb is probably town. Means he's already investigating outside and looking into matters, which maybe I'm wrong but I don't think is a mafia move.
Papa_Smurf, you asked others to not spam, but spam isn't just useless content, it's a bunch of small thoughts spread out across many posts. Consolidate your thoughts please for the sake of the thread.
Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got.
Honestly not sure about OP's alignment. People who make posts like that are usually from my experience really really really good, and that means they can do anything. Main thing to keep out for is what OP actually does in the game, not what he just says.
I am getting a bad read on Grackaroni due to the fact he's being very moderate in his opinions, always saying "in my opinion, I feel", trying to defend himself rather than offer actual opinions, or he's just spamming. Not sure if Scum though.
Also to put it bluntly I'm going to lynch kushm4sta unless he stops posting like shit. Also he's being pretty crude(like crude troll), and I really don't appreciate it. He'll be useless to the thread basically, and with more posts I see while writing this he has ignored OP's plea to stop spamming, showing he won't listen.
I agree though that lurkers should be incredibly suspicious, there are five of them in Onegu, blubdavid,raynpelikoneet, Sn0_Man, and Zealos. 1Pandain came into the thread with a long constructed post but he didn't analyze shit. 2He gave out some town reads that agreed with town sentiment. 3His reasoning for S&B being town is absolute bull. (S&B saw Debears post in a newbie game currently in signups, HOW DOES THAT EQUATE TO S&B GOING OUTSIDE THE GAME AND LOOKING FOR MAFIA??) 4He writes to a whole lot of nothing about OP (why did you even include that if you've made no conclusion off of it? 5And to top it off he then says that me and kush are BAD players so we are the top lynch choices 6Now when I called him out on him being more interested in lynching people for being bad than scum he says that we should focus on lurkers. I don't believe that Pandain has any interest in hunting scum. ##Vote: Pandain I disagree here with points 1,3,4,5 1. wut 3. have you already made out of thread investigation, Grack? 4. wut 5. you two should be lynched because of scum behaviour, not because you are bad Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 16:08 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 15:50 Papa_Smurf wrote:
He didn't call you and kush out as lynch targets for being bad (which was the primary point of your scumread on him).
When he said "bad read" about you it meant "scum read" pretty obviously by how he described your posting.
Then kush is playing scummy in itself (although that's normal for him as town and scum). "Posting like shit" doesn't mean bad (unless he has a town read on kush). It means he's playing anti-town
At least that's what I discerned. I thought that at first glance, but I have a hard time believing that when he ends his read on me with, I'm not sure if he's scum. What I read out of that post is that he is most interested in policy lynching the weaker players.
Lets get real, Kush playing anti-town is nothing new from him. He does it as both alignments. If he doesn't start contributing, we vig him and we move on. Lynches should be used on players we can actually analyze.I've only been scum one time and I was called out immediately by syllogism for wanting to policy lynch someone I called a weaker player. I see pandain displaying similar behavior. Aside from that i think that scum generally come in the middle of the day with long constructed posts such as these, this one in particular gave very little analysis. After that he peaced out. WoS made a post like this as well but it was clear to me that he was actually trying to analyze my behavior. Defending your scum comrade much, leaving him to the vig, if there is one? Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 16:49 Grackaroni wrote:On September 12 2013 16:28 Koshi wrote:
I can wait a bit on the other Europeans to wake up.
SnB can be town obviously. But meh. Could lynch.
Pandain pretty bad entry.
OP pretty cool guy. Not going to lynch. Hey Koshi, since you're here what do you think of my case on Pandain? Can you expand upon your read beyond bad entrance. Hey scumrade, since you're here and in the scum QT anyway, why don't we press together against Pandain? Can you help me find more stuff so that it looks legit.
look at this. Like wtf man, its so bad.
Never says why he doesnt want to lynch Snb, instead wants to lynch a lurker....
Also man his push on zealos for voting for Snb when he doesnt even think SnB is town.
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On September 14 2013 01:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hmmm.
I worry now because I might agree based on Rayn's meta points.
SnB come back and have some sort of shitfest with Rayn plz so i can have a better idea/read of you?
kthx.
you scum bro?
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Also, blubbers, to answer your last line; debears is probably scum. I have asked him times and times to contribute to the case, he has refused to do so. He in fact should have immediately realize SnB's point ((1) - that i bring up) is completely bullshit.
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On September 14 2013 01:06 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 01:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hmmm.
I worry now because I might agree based on Rayn's meta points.
SnB come back and have some sort of shitfest with Rayn plz so i can have a better idea/read of you?
kthx. you scum bro?
Narp!
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I have a feeling that the towncore from Persona is town again in this game. Oats, Kush, rayn, Koshi, VA (maybe), WoS (maybe).
ezpz
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On September 14 2013 01:08 Koshi wrote:
I have a feeling that the towncore from Persona is town again in this game. Oats, Kush, rayn, Koshi, VA (maybe), WoS (maybe).
ezpz
That would be very interesting---what makes you say that?
Also you had an OHHHH post earlier. Whazzat?
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Mr Snowman as well.
Grack too.
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Haha man if the towncore theory is true we should totally get ourselves into a situation where kush is forced to contribute in a positive manner so we can win.
ezpz
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kk guys, OLD PARTNER IS THE LYNCH FOR TODAY.
He has only pushed a policy lynch on Kush for whatever reason. Thats stupid and not something town does. Who wants to waste day 1 killing someone who is almost surely gonna be town without discussion??
Also, he uses the justification that he cant read all these dudes and therefore they should be policy lynched. bullshit. Scum writes Bullshit. Lynch scum.
##vote Old Partner
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On September 14 2013 01:08 Koshi wrote:
I have a feeling that the towncore from Persona is town again in this game. Oats, Kush, rayn, Koshi, VA (maybe), WoS (maybe).
ezpz
why would you name yourself?
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On September 14 2013 01:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 01:08 Koshi wrote:
I have a feeling that the towncore from Persona is town again in this game. Oats, Kush, rayn, Koshi, VA (maybe), WoS (maybe).
ezpz That would be very interesting---what makes you say that? Also you had an OHHHH post earlier. Whazzat?
Yes. I am going to make a cryptic post so I can prove it later.
17 = 919113
Probably true :D
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On September 14 2013 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok snb's case is bad, dunno if it makes him scum.
I still wanna lynch blubbdavid for being like blendy and stuff. His push on Koshi is really newb town or scum.
And his next post is bad too, calling out Grack for nothing really.
Lol, I may be bad and confused and stuff, but not blendy. NOT BLENDY. My case on Koshi, Grack (where some people agreed with me) and Zealos are pioneering work.
And I am calling Zealos out because of that wagonhopping and non-contributions of his. My own views on SnB don't matter in this case.
@rayn I will vote for SnB if it is required.
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On September 14 2013 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 01:08 Koshi wrote:
I have a feeling that the towncore from Persona is town again in this game. Oats, Kush, rayn, Koshi, VA (maybe), WoS (maybe).
ezpz why would you name yourself?
I am the strongest townie.
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On September 14 2013 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
kk guys, OLD PARTNER IS THE LYNCH FOR TODAY.
He has only pushed a policy lynch on Kush for whatever reason. Thats stupid and not something town does. Who wants to waste day 1 killing someone who is almost surely gonna be town without discussion??
Also, he uses the justification that he cant read all these dudes and therefore they should be policy lynched. bullshit. Scum writes Bullshit. Lynch scum.
##vote Old Partner
Makes some sense aside from the 'almost surely gonna be town' thing.
Why is kush town?
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I don't want to lynch OP. He reminds me a bit of Crazometer but I don't want to lynch him D:
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On September 14 2013 01:16 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
kk guys, OLD PARTNER IS THE LYNCH FOR TODAY.
He has only pushed a policy lynch on Kush for whatever reason. Thats stupid and not something town does. Who wants to waste day 1 killing someone who is almost surely gonna be town without discussion??
Also, he uses the justification that he cant read all these dudes and therefore they should be policy lynched. bullshit. Scum writes Bullshit. Lynch scum.
##vote Old Partner Makes some sense aside from the 'almost surely gonna be town' thing. Why is kush town?
Like in theory, almost all policy lynches lynch town.
Kush seems like normal kush.
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On September 14 2013 01:17 Koshi wrote:
I don't want to lynch OP. He reminds me a bit of Crazometer but I don't want to lynch him D:
So he reminds you of scum but you dont want to lynch him because? Is there a specifc post that makes you think he's town?
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On September 14 2013 01:14 blubbdavid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok snb's case is bad, dunno if it makes him scum.
I still wanna lynch blubbdavid for being like blendy and stuff. His push on Koshi is really newb town or scum.
And his next post is bad too, calling out Grack for nothing really.
Lol, I may be bad and confused and stuff, but not blendy. NOT BLENDY. My case on Koshi, Grack (where some people agreed with me) and Zealos are pioneering work. And I am calling Zealos out because of that wagonhopping and non-contributions of his. My own views on SnB don't matter in this case. @rayn I will vote for SnB if it is required.
You keep emphasizing this.
I've done this myself what I'm nto sure of a lynch but you seem to be pretty sure of your push atm, so why post this?
This isn't majority lynch where we absolutely NEED consolidation (though it certainly helps) and you are in no danger of being lynched atm.
Why are you setting yourself up for a vote switch? What are the 'requirements?'
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wtf are you talking about WoS? Blubbdavid is one of the leading candidates..
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