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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
October 02 2013 05:08 GMT
#6021
You've been green since Cephiro was lynched after your stupid-as-fuck-doctor-counter-claim, Mocsta. Because if you're mafia, like Marv I will never play another game with you again. I can't believe anyone would do that as town but I believe you are capable of (and did) it.

Or do you mean why are you green instead of white? Because I colored all the cells with names based on my view of where we're at. Is it right? Fucked if I know. It looks like we're in defeatist mode here from several people who just want to end the game (I'm right there with them but I'm not plaguing the thread with my own misery because it's not fucking helpful). Never mind that the BM is rampant and people keep "putting others in their place" which just makes for an environment that isn't conducive to a fun game (Pandain, Risen, JAT, for instance, fuck you guys for that shit and if you're scum you can enjoy the same never-play-in-games-with-me again as well.) I want out just as bad as everyone else at this point. I just begged to be shot. Luckily for me I'm apparently suspicious enough to run a mislynch on (and someone can explain that to me because that's fucking nebulous. If you think my filter can reach this length when I play as mafia you're high) so I will not be shot. My VCA isn't netting me much data because we're lynching new people every day outside of Cephiro.

So to finally answer your question, you have to be town because I cannot reconcile that level of attention-grabbing stupid behavior on a mafia vs. town lynch (whereas a town versus town lynch or a scum versus scum lynch I might see it differently) and if that IS the case then I hope you go straight to hell, as well.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 05:28 GMT
#6022
I'm sleeping in purgatory.

Not hell.

Yeah I had a bad game. But at least I'm not a cunt like risen.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 02 2013 07:06 GMT
#6023
On October 02 2013 13:33 ObviousOne wrote:
[image loading]
3 red scum, 3 orange pick 2 for scum
#yolo

I like this one.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 02 2013 07:08 GMT
#6024
Bit sad that iamp wasn't scum. But that's life.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 08:56 GMT
#6025
On October 02 2013 16:08 Koshi wrote:
Bit sad that iamp wasn't scum. But that's life.

hi scum.

just had an epiphany.

you have done absolutely nothing all game. like literally.

that's my case, go suck on that.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 02 2013 09:10 GMT
#6026
hehe I agree. Yeah I am somewhat sorry about my game but I have nothing to offer.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 02 2013 09:12 GMT
#6027
First 2 lynches were fucking terrible and I was on opposite wagon. Coag shot on VA was terrible. Day 3 we had Cephiro. Day 4 I cba anymore if we weren't lynching Mocsta, but because Mocsta was tryhard I wanted rayn/ft. But then modconfirmed townie asked me to go for iamp so I went iamp.
I had a good night of sleep.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
October 02 2013 11:25 GMT
#6028
So I just watched Destiny's stream until 7AM. Some major real shit went down tonight.

This is a friendly reminder that everything up to the Iamperfection lynch is what matters for analysis. Look for D2 and D4 patterns.

I'll try to have a few reflections on what my VCA shows before I pass out. Notable mentions are that coag stays true to his town self with an arguably objectively bad voting record, and that risen voted 10 unique times on D4. I'm not actually looking at it right now, so this is from memory. FT seems to have crumbled under the pressure and bussed today with his vote. The stutters lynch seems to have been the "bone" from the mafia team today as the pressure mounts to not look scummy based on voting patterns. If decon isn't vigged auto-lynch him tomorrow. Find the scum between the orange names in my prior list. I predict Koshi will ride Rayn's dick like he has since the beginning of time. Marv didn't think it was a hard double bus shit-fest so I bow to his wisdom on that and I prefer Koshi for town of the two.

Auto-lynch decon D5

Auto-lynch stutters D6

FT's clinical voice aggravates the shit out of me and the only thing holding me back from saying auto-lynch him next is that I find his style of deflection repulsive but not necessarily indicative of scum. Dig deeper. It's in your hands.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
October 02 2013 11:44 GMT
#6029
End of day votes with my reads factored in:
[image loading]

Sentinel voting pattern doesn't make sense for someone who isn't going to participate much in the late game, based on my interpretation of the game state. Either the game he is running is taking up too much of his time or he has IRL things to attend to, it doesn't matter, I suppose. Some of my town reads have a town read on Sentinel so maybe I'd defer to their wisdom. How the NKs play out tonight is going to help a ton, assuming I survive to tomorrow.

Votes of interest from glancing at it:
Risen sticking with FT on D2.
JAT's vote on Iamperfection (as compared to his other votes, was the method different? it's his only "bad" vote)
SNB would be interesting if he had owned the slot since D1. Not sure how to treat that.

Nobody who voted for FT D1 at the end of the day is a stand-out scum read for me. Scum had no true reason to bus on D1 given no flips. Helps affirm my reads on those players.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 13:05 GMT
#6030
/I like your analysis, indicates SnB is town and Stutters is scum.

One thing I'm still somewhat questioning however and deserves further analysis is whether FT is scum. Not sure how to analyze him voting for random people, on one hand he seems town for bucking the trend unconventionally on the other hand he seems scum for not lynching an obvious scum.

He should definitely be one of the last ones lynched.

Tommorow should be decondou, then stutters, then Rayn. After those three it gets more tricky. While the above indicates SnB is town it doesn't clear him and I'm wondering why he isn't contributing more, SnB what are your thoughts on the game?

Mocsta and FT are definitely more suspicious and should be the ones lynched after Rayn.

Does anyone disagree with the order Decondou, Stutters, Rayn?

Firm are you going to be around later? I want to push you and see if you're entirely consistant .

Same for Mocsta except I'll simply make a big post on his suspicious behavior and he can respond. Hopefully before night.

Medics should protect me but I'll probably get double stacked honestly. Maybe even left for tomorrow and then shot. I believe if I get double stacked however we still have a chance of winning without another doctor or a vig, which will be worth it by far.

Doctor do not claim no matter what, you right now are the most important person in the thread. Vig, if instead you exist, shoot decondou or Stutters. Decondou is the safest option but Stutters is on auto-lynch anyway so if he's not scum we're screwed.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 13:17 GMT
#6031
lol
get over yourself. no one is getting double stacked. makes it harder for scum to win.


I am coming to the same conclusion with firmtofu as well.
his deconduo case was for the right reasons, and a bus was not required.

agree on Dec then stutters then rayn.

for last two I would consider sentinel, koshi and kitamin.

I'm not sure why I'm leaving Mr.cc out of that. will be easier pending night kills to discern.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 02 2013 13:19 GMT
#6032
Well out of those 3 it must be sentinel. Like, this morning I was so upset with the iamp lynch that I almost start doubting the modconfirmed townie. But it's just impossible.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 13:36 GMT
#6033
On October 02 2013 22:19 Koshi wrote:
Well out of those 3 it must be sentinel. Like, this morning I was so upset with the iamp lynch that I almost start doubting the modconfirmed townie. But it's just impossible.

Whose modconfirmed townie?

I wasn't sure who JAT was referencing when he mentioned it either.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 02 2013 13:43 GMT
#6034
On October 02 2013 22:17 Mocsta wrote:
lol
get over yourself. no one is getting double stacked. makes it harder for scum to win.



I am coming to the same conclusion with firmtofu as well.
his deconduo case was for the right reasons, and a bus was not required.

agree on Dec then stutters then rayn.

for last two I would consider sentinel, koshi and kitamin.

I'm not sure why I'm leaving Mr.cc out of that. will be easier pending night kills to discern.

This.

I would actually love to kill rayn first but I won't be in the way of a deconduo lynch anymore...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 02 2013 13:43 GMT
#6035
On October 02 2013 22:36 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 22:19 Koshi wrote:
Well out of those 3 it must be sentinel. Like, this morning I was so upset with the iamp lynch that I almost start doubting the modconfirmed townie. But it's just impossible.

Whose modconfirmed townie?

I wasn't sure who JAT was referencing when he mentioned it either.

I did not mention something like that. I told Koshi he was wrong for calling Kita modconfirmed although we already lost if he was scum.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 02 2013 13:44 GMT
#6036
Kita. Because OP says no replacements after N2.

After the disaster that was D1 lynch, I don't see the hosts replacing a scummer N3.
They replaced modconfirmed townie that scum could insta shoot if they want.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 02 2013 13:44 GMT
#6037
Well, I understand it isn't 100%
But it's enough to see him as town. At least for me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 02 2013 13:45 GMT
#6038
Or maybe host just hates town after all the townies being bitches and letting themselves get modkilled. I dnu.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 02 2013 13:46 GMT
#6039
I see him as town too but that's because of his play. He would be the absolute tryhard scum.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 02 2013 13:48 GMT
#6040
I will be really sad if you are scum JAT.
I had a good night of sleep.
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