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Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 22:47 GMT
#886
Oh, rayn's posts have been good so far. He is clear, logical. He shouldn't be vigged.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 22:51 GMT
#894
On July 29 2013 07:48 exarezee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


I'm BUSSING YOU? Say WHAT?


I am putting myself in Tofu's shoes. What is he thinking to have voted me? His shift from being against my lynch to voting me was too sudden. It is scummy. He has been all about lynching you exarezee, then is now voting his scum's scum read. That doesn't strike you as odd play?
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 22:59 GMT
#904
On July 29 2013 07:51 exarezee wrote:
@Papers

I think you should defend yourself at this point from hzflank's posts. You're going to get lynched if you don't defend yourself. Finding another suspect is useless at this point. If you know you're town, the best pro-town thing you could do right now is to save yourself.


He says my list is scummy. That is subjective. When I was catching up, I jotted down what I thought of people, nothing people wrote struck me as super scummy.

He calls my analysis of hzflank and you not both being scum, fluff. When it is a decent read. Again subjective.

Why should I have to go in depth and explain my town reads. We all know how easy it is to manipulate people's posts into whatever you want to believe. I don't like that style of play. I look for interactions between players, sudden changes in behavior, voting patterns.

Do I have to make a full blow case against some one and dissect every word they say and provide the greek meaning of each said word. No I don't. It doesn't make the person I FoS not scum, if I only provide a few lines as too why. At that point in time I wasn't even super sure on any of my reads. It was my initial read through. I didn't have to commit to anything. I never said any of my reads were very strong. Those were just my thoughts, so you guys could see where my head was at.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:08 GMT
#913
On July 29 2013 07:51 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:46 Paperscraps wrote:
On July 29 2013 03:52 hzflank wrote:
Paper, can you tell us what you think of this, please.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&currentpage=30#587


It is a decent post, slightly biased through the lens of hzflank who already at that point scum reads me. You are seeing what you want to see in my posts. I could defend every point you made against me, but right now I don't think that would be beneficial since I am beginning to town read you again. We could go into the psychology of mafia and how people want to think their first choice is right, but really you should realize with all the flak I am getting from everyone right now, the chances of me flipping scum is very low. I am all alone here, this is day 1.

Tofu made a pretty big shift in the recent pages, going from totally being against my lynch to voting me. I am not saying I don't have reasons to be voted with what everyone is throwing at me, but it doesn't seem like a natural shift at all. Where did his backbone go? Does he not scum read exarezee anymore? Is exarezee bussing me now? A closer look at Tofu right now would be great.

@anyone
How much time until the deadline?


I agree that Tofu's switch was everything except good looking.
He doesn't seem to fight much for his own reads.

Can you tell me what you thought were those amazing reads from Oats that made you townread him in your list post?


The main thing I like about Oat's is his posts don't seem super thought out. This gives them a sense of truth and genuineness imo. He doesn't seem like he is trying to manipulate everything he talks about, but just gives us his outlook on the matter. I actually kind of dig his filler post's as well, they are light hearted and don't seemed forced. I would be hard pressed to see Oats flip scum and have been forcing all of these posts.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:13 GMT
#923
On July 29 2013 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 07:05 Koshi wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 07:00 Koshi wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:58 hzflank wrote:
On July 29 2013 06:55 Koshi wrote:
Why are we ignoring Malongo?


Do you want me to fully answer him now? His problem with me stems from philosophical differences regarding lynching lurkers. After that he clutches at straws. He seems to genuinely think that I am scum, though. I never responded to him earlier because until this page he talked about me and not too me, and since I have spent a lot of time replying to people doing that this game there was no town benefit to messing up the thread discussing philosophical differences.

Do you want me to fully answer every point that you and Malongo just made?

Unless there are more votes going to pile up for you I guess I don't see why you should. I still don't see why you think Paper is so scummy for the pas 40 hours though.

lol, you don't want your top scumread to contribute? wtf, maybe we should lynch Koshi.

To be more precise. You don't want your top scumread to contribute towards your other scumread.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Koshi

That's enough bullshit.

Paper has never been my scumread. Ohhh you are a funny one!

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:03 Koshi wrote:
hahahahahahahaha.
So wait. This time my read isn't good because?

Paper looks town to me.
Hz looks scum to me.

I have no reads otherwise except I always like a VA lynch.

So. Why is this bad?

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:07 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Paperscraps

Is that enough for everyone?


I really wonder if scum would make this blatant of a contradiction.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:24 GMT
#949
Why don't we just lynch JAT? Do all you have town reads on him? There is already 2 votes on him.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:26 GMT
#953
Also, I don't think flipping this onto Koshi here would be good. Why would be town read me as scum then just vote me right after. A blatant contradiction. Seems too easy.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:28 GMT
#956
On July 29 2013 08:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:24 Paperscraps wrote:
Why don't we just lynch JAT? Do all you have town reads on him? There is already 2 votes on him.


Why do you not seem to even care if you get lynched.
Is this really all the fight you're gonna give it? Die scum


AtEing hardly ever works in flipping a lynch. I do care I get lynched, why else would I be suggestioning we lynch someone else.

Also I would have fished by now.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:30 GMT
#964
On July 29 2013 08:28 FirmTofu wrote:
Just going to wait for the flip. This speculation is driving me nuts.


I really doubt it is. Most people voting me probably town read me by now.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:33 GMT
#971
I could vote FT, his lynch would provide useful information. I bet a lot more people are in the dark on his alignment than mine.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:38 GMT
#987
On July 29 2013 08:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
paper could you at least give us some fucking last minute reads if you're town
I'm actually making myself mad at the thought of you flipping town now, how could you just let this happen without pushing back

Drop us some reads


FT I can see flipping scum based on how the last few pages have gone. I already pointed out his shift was weird. I can see why people would want me over JAT, since I have had a ton more interactions, so I will stop pushing that scum read for now. I am leaning town on hzflank. I don't really know what to think of rayn yet, since he really just got into this. If koshi flipped scum, I would be surprised, he doesn't really play like a scum would.

The last part of my filter is filled with reads bro.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:38 GMT
#989
##Unvote

##Vote: FirmTofu
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:47 GMT
#1005
Hmm, we 8 to lynch right. Looking at the how the votes are, I don't see how we can flip this onto FT. I would rather I be lynched than no one at all. So you guys should change back to me before to the deadline.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:48 GMT
#1008
I think still exar is town btw. His last few post have been pretty good.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:49 GMT
#1011
If tofu isn't shot or lynched in the near future I will be sad.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:54 GMT
#1022
I really think Koshi would have atleast attempted to switch off of me when presented the chance if he was town. I would keep an eye on him. He did hard town read me.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 28 2013 23:56 GMT
#1028
On July 29 2013 08:55 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm like 99% sure paper is town now. Wouldn't a no lynch be better if people won't switch?


No it wouldn't, the 1% of doubt will be used by scum.
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
Paperscraps
Profile Joined March 2010
United States639 Posts
July 29 2013 00:03 GMT
#1047
GG guys! Was fun at the end there!
"Because in the end, the only way we can measure the significance of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.” - David Gale
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