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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 12 2013 02:18 GMT
#1138
Ebwop

Guess I should refresh
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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
June 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#1139
On June 12 2013 11:10 iVLosK! wrote:
I've been notified that I was roleblocked last night.

If you're town and you roleblocked me I will personally shove my foot so far down your throat that a team of the best surgeons in the nation have to work around the clock to remove my work boot from your small intestine.


Does this mean you are blue?
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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
June 12 2013 02:25 GMT
#1148
Ummm ok...

In other news, if the wording was different that is interesting... Can you guys say who sent the pm. If it was different people that could explain it, if not something we should look into.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 12 2013 02:43 GMT
#1158
On June 12 2013 11:33 iVLosK! wrote:
Just so we can get this off the table and go back to looking for scum/SK.

If I lied about being jailed, then where the fuck is the shot?

If no one counters my jail claim then it is confirmed.

/end.



Well there are other possibilities such as scum afk or target was a vet. But what you say is the most likely option.
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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
June 12 2013 03:04 GMT
#1167
On June 12 2013 12:01 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 12:00 fferyllt wrote:
That happy thought killed the thread.


Well I brought up Stim but no one noticed


Actually I went back and checked he makes 2 posts with just fluff after day 2 results then nothing since. Possible he just afk'd and didnt make a action...
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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
June 12 2013 03:21 GMT
#1172
On June 12 2013 12:07 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 12:04 Onegu wrote:
On June 12 2013 12:01 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 12 2013 12:00 fferyllt wrote:
That happy thought killed the thread.


Well I brought up Stim but no one noticed


Actually I went back and checked he makes 2 posts with just fluff after day 2 results then nothing since. Possible he just afk'd and didnt make a action...


But do think his actions were scum... that was my question. Tunneling one person and barely posting doesnt sound like a long term scum strategy to me.


Or he just gave up since in 2 days both scum partners died...
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Onegu
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June 12 2013 03:31 GMT
#1176
On June 12 2013 12:27 fferyllt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 12:07 fferyllt wrote:
I noticed.

I'm undecided about him and Xzav.

I think Umasi is town. I don't think scum would have come into the thread totally misunderstanding the conversation and ranting stfu about SKs.


Agree? Disagree? Don't care? I'd like to see some PoE up in this thread.

After breakfast I will make a post on him, Im not 100% like I was yesterday but I still feel scum.
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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
June 12 2013 03:37 GMT
#1179
Real fast

TOWN:
iVlosK
Spicydino
Fferyllt

NULL:
Xzavier

SCUM:
Stimaddict
Umasi
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 12 2013 12:11 GMT
#1180
On June 11 2013 05:07 Umasi wrote:
I haven't seen them, and have decided to ignore them.
Here's a defense, I guess?

I am going to get lynched this game. It is a fucking inevitability. I've played SUPER SCUMMY according to the thread, so at this point, I'm going to stop all semblance of trying to clear myself of suspicions. If that takes away from my points, so be it, but if I was trying to live, I wouldn't go and do some kind of fucking vote analysis like that, because that paints me in an incredibly unfavorable light (in case you haven't noticed).
Like, saying that out of the four people on Gotard, two were, even possibly THREE, were scum, and I'm one of them?

That's fucking suicidal.
The reason it doesn't clear me is you could wifom yourself into thinking that a scum would do some kind of crazy clever misdirection, but if he wants to continue thinking I'm scum and soft push me, feel the fuck free. After I die and flip town, you will happily look over to the votes and be like "huh does that have merit?"
So think LONG and HARD before you lynch me, then do it, because I'm scummy as shit!
At this point, I don't think I'm going to play by what town SHOULD play by and I'm going to play however I damn well please because otherwise I'll go fucking insane trying to not get lynched while simultaneously pointing out scum because I've played like scum the entire game.
yes. I am a little frustrated. just a teeeeensy bit annoyed, but it's mainly my own fault for playing scummy.
Not even rereading this post. Screw it.


Other than his votes this post I have a problem with. Saying yeah I have played scummy all game but think long and hard on it. Playing scummy usally means you are scum in my book.

Yeah, it was addressed at me ffer.Anyway, I'm thinking along these lines, I stated them a few pages back, but I'll restate it.If we discount the possibility of a bus day one, which I think we can, with how close the votes were, it means that Yavanna (because no vote, /afk), Me, Lonemeow, and Firere, and Xzav could be scum.Firere was scum! two left.I'm going to take the liberty of considering myself town (woaaaah /everyone flips a bitch)that leaves Yavanna, Lone, and Xzav as possible scummersI think that xzav is town! i have since pretty early on, early in D2 he shook my confidence, but has come back and made me happy. This would mean Lone and Yav are the scumteam. remaining scum team, anyway.If yav is still afk, what is lone going to do, single handedly redirect his entire wagon onto me?....well he could....but he hasn't even made the effort to, imo.or maybe he HAS made the effort, and is incredibly bad at it. He's not the one slamming the nail in the coffin, I am.I think the reason the thread has a low level of activity is the scum is pretty much boned! That's what I'm thinking.I'm pretty sure the cat/yavanna are the scum team. If lonemeow flips town, I'll be extremely surprised and confused, and then will do my best to move on and reevaluate. But Lonemeow NOT being scum means either two things: Xzav IS, or the scum team bussed super early on.in a 4 v 5 vote.I don't see this happening.It may also go partway to explaining why Yavanna was not immediately modkilled.Naturally, the entire theory hinges on two things! A, the lack of a bus, which I talked about, and B, both me and xzav being town.You guys have no fucking idea if either of us are town, but I'm pretty confident Xzav is, and you should probably think I am too, because I don't think people think I'm scum for a good reason anymore, just by virtue of me being a scummy


He is doing the same thing firere did in sheeping xzavier but with a few more posts and more emotion. So by his logic xzavier is now scum, I dont see it I see scum sheeping vocal town.

Either he is scum or he just skim reads/ ignores posts. Why would you join a game of mafia and do that?

And the SK rant doesnt mean anyrhing it is incoherant and not point town or scum imo.

Until he addresses my posts on him since day 1 until now and not just ignore me...

VOTE: UMASI
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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
June 12 2013 18:24 GMT
#1183
Sleeping early today sorry see you in 6-7 hours.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 13 2013 01:11 GMT
#1205
Ebwop

##VOTE: UMASI
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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
June 13 2013 01:26 GMT
#1210
On June 13 2013 10:21 Umasi wrote:
And the reason I'm not currently voting xzav is, despite the day one bus situation, which I still don't think scum did, I REALLY don't want to vote xzav.
he's been my towniest read since the beginning of the game, and will flip an absolute bitch if he is scum.
The entire /scum nailing in the coffin is basically what I spent time day 2 trying to explain, and is why I lynched lonemeow, because I thought he was scummier than xzav or yav.
Yav flipped, and I really REALLY don't want to lynch xzav.
I agree with what iV said though
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 06:57 iVLosK! wrote:
I say we lynch what's left of the Gotard wagon (Umasi and Xzavier) and then lynch the two who weren't on firere (Onegu and Stimm). Game over. Glorious town victory.

And since I know I'm town, that leaves xzav.
I really, REALLY, do not want to do this, but my thoughts that scum did not bus day one, or even not vote gotard, are overpowering my townread of xzav.
If xzav flips town, then I'd reread through Onegu>stimm. Atm I'd think onegu, but that's because he's done nothing but noncommitally push me and contribute thoughts, but he never tries to get me LYNCHED. he just votes me. I don't know what to think of that.

##VOTE XZAVIER

As much as I don't want to lynch xzav....I don't see why the scum team would not just hammer in the mislynch and save firere.



You really havent read my cases on you have you?! I am really starting to believe youmare just completely skipping my posts at this point.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 13 2013 01:27 GMT
#1211
Ebwop

You are not youmare
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 13 2013 01:43 GMT
#1213
On June 13 2013 10:34 Umasi wrote:
okay onegu, I will try to explain why. This is literally the best I can do, to tell you why I'm town
I'm not responding to your posts, I'm responding to...I don't know what I'm responding to.
But rationalize this question:
two things, actually:


A: If I am scum, why have I drawn so much attention to myself, and

B: Why have I not been lynched yet.

What about me is towny enough that people are not voting me?


Its not that you are so townie though, its that people thought others were more scummy. And createing chaos is scummy it confuses people and makes you look active.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 13 2013 01:46 GMT
#1215
On a different note iVlosK has posted very little actual investigative posts since night 1 when he posted a abridged masoner chat. If he is scum he is out playing us all but I would like to see more insightful posts.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 13 2013 01:54 GMT
#1219
On June 13 2013 10:45 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 10:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.

Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.

I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread.


So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking.

Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today)

thoughts?


Only thing a mass claim will do is show scum who our blues are. We will have a bunch of people claiming VT and if we lynch the wrong guy... then scum can snipe the jailer.


okay got it.

So its jailer/medic.

But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win.

So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know.

Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment.

Spicey what do you think of iV right now?
I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time.
and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game.
No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person.


2 people have claimed to be jailed already have come forward if you are just looking for them we know the no kill came from iVlosK being jailed. Looking for the jailer looks really bad.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
June 13 2013 02:36 GMT
#1231
On June 13 2013 11:02 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 10:54 Onegu wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:45 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:10 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:
On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.

Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.

I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread.


So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking.

Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today)

thoughts?


Only thing a mass claim will do is show scum who our blues are. We will have a bunch of people claiming VT and if we lynch the wrong guy... then scum can snipe the jailer.


okay got it.

So its jailer/medic.

But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win.

So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know.

Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment.

Spicey what do you think of iV right now?
I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time.
and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game.
No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person.


2 people have claimed to be jailed already have come forward if you are just looking for them we know the no kill came from iVlosK being jailed. Looking for the jailer looks really bad.


But couldnt in the same way, iVlosk claim to be jailed (but is really scum) and have that be the explination of why there was no kill. so he claims the KP was on him instead of him being unable to preform the kill??

This is why i think its a better idea, in other words. if the jailer comes out and says he held somebody else, do it and we win? or could it be that he is mindfucking gaming us and he didnt even put forth a KP at all? im not saying hes the scum, but im saying that he could have been roleblocked himself and claim that it saved him, instead of preventing him from shooting. Idk, this is my thoughts. Im not accusing him, but just making a statement that we cant take his claim to be 100% townie hes town all up in this town.

make sense?

of course, the above is almost certainly not applicable. as the jailer should have already come out and explained it, and then we kill him and win. (otherwise he is making this claim for bullshits and impeding the search for scum, which makes no sense)


Pushing for the jailer to come out is more scummy than anything umasi has done in this game, because that is most likely the only way scum can win is by killing the jailer at this point.

##UNVOTE

##VOTE: XZAVIER

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Onegu
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United States9699 Posts
June 13 2013 02:55 GMT
#1238
On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.

Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.

I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread.


So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking.

Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today)

thoughts?


okay got it.So its jailer/medic.But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win.So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know. Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment. Spicey what do you think of iV right now?I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time.and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game. No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person.



Saying a thought and maybe doesnt mean you arent pushing
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United States9699 Posts
June 13 2013 03:01 GMT
#1241
On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.

Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.

I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread.


So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking.

Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today)

thoughts?


okay got it.So its jailer/medic.But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win.So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know. Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment. Spicey what do you think of iV right now?I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time.and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game. No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person.



Saying a thought and maybe doesnt mean you arent pushing for it, means you are fishing for agreement.

and some high ungodly wisdom that we are allowed to communicate during noob games had a discussion on mass claims with me, and i realize that its generally not beneficial in this format. So it would only be smart to come out if you KNOW your action stopped the night kill i believe, or if your a cop who just checked a scum(or miller, but then we can determine if its miller/scum)

filteri believe i explicilitely asked people if what i was saying was a good or bad idea!!this is my first game of forum mafia, im new to like fucking 15 different roles and still only have minimal understands of how they interact with the game, i wasnt pushing for him to come out, i was asking for other peoples ideas. go back and reread my post again, i wasnt calling for him to come out, or even pushing. i was thinking outloud. and now im very worried about you as well.


So youve talked about it with someone but but still dont understand?
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United States9699 Posts
June 13 2013 03:08 GMT
#1242
Not sure how that got posted first not finished.
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