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Blazinghand
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On May 16 2013 15:17 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 15:11 Blazinghand wrote:On May 16 2013 15:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 16 2013 14:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
That rayn shot was also kinda weird.
huh.
why not prome/bh/VE???
No kill on Prom/BH worries me. The Vivax shot was honestly smart; the guy seems to pick up a strong blue role every game and every game he gets sniped for it. I can't say it was an attempt to frame me either since BH is still alive as well; despite the fact that he dropped me as prime target yesterday he was making it fairly clear he still wanted me dead. Rayn shot was obvious as well. I've already been called out for this, but the fact that Prom and BH are both still alive and both were the primary proponents of me being scum yesterday means one of them must be scum imo. I am aware the Prom never attempted to push me beyond his initial case/suspicion but it fits with what I'm thinking. I'll attempt to build on this as the day progresses but it really doesn't feel good to me at all. so what you're saying is, since prom didn't push you, and i was the one who really pushed you, one of BH and BH must be scum Now i'm replying to you not for your sake, since you're almost certainly scum, but just to lay it clear for everyone else: it's utterly unreasonable to think i'm scum for that reason., because man my head is spinning like, scum would shoot me for pushing one of their scumbuddies, WoS, that's the theory right? Like, WoS is saying "If BH is so onto me, and so pushing me, why didn't my scumbuddies just shoot BH? clearly BH is scum!" but like this would require both woS and me to be scum, and for wow i literally have a headache look, WoS's logic, that scum would shoot to protect him from me because i was onto him, and didn't, therefore i'm scum, literally only makes sense if WoS is scum, but then it doesn't make sense because why would I push a scumbuddy so hard D1 i'm dizzy i need to lie down fuck K wait, I actually think I understand what you're trying to write here. Did you write this post from the perspective that I am outed scum and trying to tell a town that knows I'm scum that you're scum? That's..... This takes the cake for the most retarded thing I have ever read in mafia.
see now we're on the same page for how we feel about your post
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Blazinghand
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i'll lynch WoS if people aren't down for OO but OO is priority one scum. this has been gone over, and it's only more true now that it was before OO skated through a no-lynch like a martyring punk
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Blazinghand
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On May 16 2013 15:22 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 15:20 Blazinghand wrote:
that just seems to be you omgusing me but i could be wrong i am not a scientist, just a lay person LOL. So you appear to understand it here but not my earlier post where I am alluding to the same thing? WTF BH.
well there you explain it super clearly
"BH is scum because he is pushing me, omgus huehuehue"
vs
"some weird shit about nks, i am scum so bh is scum because... yeah"
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Blazinghand
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martyring is null what planet are you from
and i'm like the #1 guy getting OO lynched, it's people like all people who didn't vote OO due to like badness and stuff that are the reason he didn't getl ynched
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Blazinghand
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My reason for wanting OO dead over WoS remains the same, plus WoS has been legit engaging the thread since yesterday and OO has not. furthermore, given how the voting went down yesterday it's like almost certain that either A) OO is scum or B) all the scum were on OO's wagon and failed to push it across the line
If OO was town I don't see why a scum player wouldn't have hammmered him apart from literally not being able to do so. OO is scum.
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Blazinghand
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no, i saw your post, i just have zero interest in talking to you, unlike WoS. I legit think you're more likely to be scum than WoS.
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Blazinghand
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no, i saw your post, i just have zero interest in talking to you, unlike WoS. I legit think you're more likely to be scum than WoS.
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Blazinghand
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On May 17 2013 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: VE
I dont see a situation where scum wouldve 100% hammered OO yesterday. I dont.
It allows the scum players to come out pushing OO like 'he must be scum or else scum wouldve hammered'. Yeah.
I dont think VE's reads are horrible, and him calling OO scum is horrific.
horrifically scummy.
so why are you voting VE and not me
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Blazinghand
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On May 17 2013 10:33 ObviousOne wrote:
Please hide more information while you refuse to vote for scum. Please. It's helping me decide which of you or BH is scum. Stop being so helpful. Stop it. Stop. Oh wait.
i'm serious though, what part of the reasoning that makes VE scum doesn't apply to me? Why are you on him and not me?
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Blazinghand
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OO humor me for a moment here and explain
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Blazinghand
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On May 17 2013 10:43 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2013 10:41 Blazinghand wrote:
OO humor me for a moment here and explain You or wave is scum. Not both. I choose wave. His ambivalence here halfway through the day is strengthening my feelings. You being wrong about me does not make you wrong about him.
okay, that's reasonable. I'm willing to lynch WoS first and you second if people are unwilling to lynch you.
I have a question for Oatsmaster. You're voting for VE for the following reasons:
On May 17 2013 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont see a situation where scum wouldve 100% hammered OO yesterday. I dont.
It allows the scum players to come out pushing OO like 'he must be scum or else scum wouldve hammered'. Yeah.
I dont think VE's reads are horrible, and him calling OO scum is horrific.
horrifically scummy.
but as far as I can tell these are all reasons to vote me, as well. After all, I'm one of the two votes on the OO wagon.
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Blazinghand
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sorry, forgot the last line:
here's the question. Why not me?
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Blazinghand
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sorry got a lot of balls in the air. hiro not really been on my radar. i'll check him out and give a read
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Blazinghand
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Unless you LITERALLY have a red check on Kushm4sta, your case against him MUST include meta. Every game this guy plays as town everyone says "omg kush is scum" and mislynch him. He always looks like scum, he's easy lynchbait, we are not lynching him unless he's doing something this game that's different than a normal kush town game, and is something he does as scum.
Anyone who makes case against kush that does not include a cop claim or a meta component, I will immediately vote you.
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Blazinghand
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I make an exception: if you are calling for a policy lynch of Kush, then ok I understand that though I dont' condone it.
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Blazinghand
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On May 17 2013 18:33 prplhz wrote:Okay I really want to lynch kushm4sta. The guy hasn't notably pushed anything hard this game. He's fine being lurkish and just poking in here and there. I don't really find that to be scummy in itself but it's not a town tell either. What my problem with kusm4sta is is how he's focused on himself and how he himself appears and not about other people. This is especially prevalent in his early game with posts like this and this and this. Those posts have only one purpose: showing people that he doesn't care about how he appears, but by being so blatant about it becomes apparent that he very much cares about how he appears to other players. Contrast his early posts from Dessert Mini Mafia where he was town. In this post which is one of his very first he comes out pretty strong with a "I'm going to tell you a scum read in a second", there's no focus on how he appears but focus only on contributing. Read for yourself, the filters are pretty short: Dessert Mini MafiaThis gameI also find this post very off. First of all he is promising us something very insubstantial: "more activity", it's really hard to hold people up on that. He's also promising it to us "second half of the game" but when is that? This game could end in a few days or it could drag on until 3 players left. He's promising us nothing and at a time no townie knows when is. I imagine townies who were busy would say "I am busy this weekend, will post something after" or something like that, not say "I am busy for the first half of the game"?! And then look at his latest post: Show nested quote +On May 17 2013 10:49 kushm4sta wrote:On May 17 2013 10:25 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 17 2013 09:25 kushm4sta wrote:
I will vote VE.
But in regards to WoS, people need to realize he spams as scum. So spamming doesn't make him town.
##vote VE I've never been scum you derp. But if you did get scum, you would still spam. First kushm4sta says that WaveofShadow spams as scum but he has absolutely no way to know this as WaveofShadow has never been scum. He is literally making things up here and there is NO townie motivation for this. His response also seems really nervous in that he makes a weird jokish comment on it like it means nothing when WaveofShadow has actually caught him in a direct lie that no townie would ever make. Would you as town ever say that someone is acting like last time he was scum, when he has never rolled scum before? He also says it in a weirdly reassuring manner "Don't worry guys, just lynch him". Anyway, lets lynch kushm4sta. ##Vote kushm4sta
Although you've noted a small thing that he did in one game as town that he's not doing this game, you have failed horribly at meta because you haven't shown that it's something kush does as scum. Meta cases can't just be "I usually see him do this as town and he's not", it has to be "He does X as town and Y as scum, and this game he is doing Y". This is because people's play varies from game to game even within their alignment. People are busier or more or less active or just have good or bad analysis games.
Kush hasn't written as much about others as he has in one or two town games. So what?!
Show me where he does this as scum OR tell me you have a red check on him OR tell me this is a policy lynch.
Until then I will not unvote
##unvote
##vote prplhz
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
please WoS when have I ever caused a shitstorm
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On May 18 2013 00:34 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2013 23:55 Blazinghand wrote:On May 17 2013 18:33 prplhz wrote:Okay I really want to lynch kushm4sta. The guy hasn't notably pushed anything hard this game. He's fine being lurkish and just poking in here and there. I don't really find that to be scummy in itself but it's not a town tell either. What my problem with kusm4sta is is how he's focused on himself and how he himself appears and not about other people. This is especially prevalent in his early game with posts like this and this and this. Those posts have only one purpose: showing people that he doesn't care about how he appears, but by being so blatant about it becomes apparent that he very much cares about how he appears to other players. Contrast his early posts from Dessert Mini Mafia where he was town. In this post which is one of his very first he comes out pretty strong with a "I'm going to tell you a scum read in a second", there's no focus on how he appears but focus only on contributing. Read for yourself, the filters are pretty short: Dessert Mini MafiaThis gameI also find this post very off. First of all he is promising us something very insubstantial: "more activity", it's really hard to hold people up on that. He's also promising it to us "second half of the game" but when is that? This game could end in a few days or it could drag on until 3 players left. He's promising us nothing and at a time no townie knows when is. I imagine townies who were busy would say "I am busy this weekend, will post something after" or something like that, not say "I am busy for the first half of the game"?! And then look at his latest post: On May 17 2013 10:49 kushm4sta wrote:On May 17 2013 10:25 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 17 2013 09:25 kushm4sta wrote:
I will vote VE.
But in regards to WoS, people need to realize he spams as scum. So spamming doesn't make him town.
##vote VE I've never been scum you derp. But if you did get scum, you would still spam. First kushm4sta says that WaveofShadow spams as scum but he has absolutely no way to know this as WaveofShadow has never been scum. He is literally making things up here and there is NO townie motivation for this. His response also seems really nervous in that he makes a weird jokish comment on it like it means nothing when WaveofShadow has actually caught him in a direct lie that no townie would ever make. Would you as town ever say that someone is acting like last time he was scum, when he has never rolled scum before? He also says it in a weirdly reassuring manner "Don't worry guys, just lynch him". Anyway, lets lynch kushm4sta. ##Vote kushm4sta Although you've noted a small thing that he did in one game as town that he's not doing this game, you have failed horribly at meta because you haven't shown that it's something kush does as scum. Meta cases can't just be "I usually see him do this as town and he's not", it has to be "He does X as town and Y as scum, and this game he is doing Y". This is because people's play varies from game to game even within their alignment. People are busier or more or less active or just have good or bad analysis games. Kush hasn't written as much about others as he has in one or two town games. So what?! Show me where he does this as scum OR tell me you have a red check on him OR tell me this is a policy lynch. Until then I will not unvote ##unvote
##vote prplhz LOL are you kidding me? This isn't a meta case, this is me saying that kushm4sta's early game doesn't look like his town game and contains general traits that are indisputably scummy AND he has been caught in a straight up lie that no townie would ever do. No I'm not going to make this into a pure meta case because you vote me. Jesus christ. Seriously look at it: "Kush hasn't written as much about others as he has in one or two town games. So what?!" So what?! So that's a pretty good sign that something might be up. Can anybody tell BlazingHand that he's being completely ludicrous.
you clearly don't understnad hwat i'm tlaking about and haven't been reading the thread. You say he's indisputably scummy and has been lying like no townie would ever do but that straight up is NOT GOOD ENOUG. literally every game this happens with kush. he plays like scum, people say "herp depr kush is scum" and then lynch him and he flips town. Unless you show me he's doing something he does as scum, you are bad.
every game kush plays he is objectivly scummy. you need to do better. You need a check, a policy lynch, or a LEGIT meta case, or you're clearly scum looking for low hanging fruit of kush mislynch or town who's so bad he can't be allowed to live
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Blazinghand
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i like how you think that anything but voting prplhz wos or OO is a legit thing today
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Blazinghand
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for the record hiropro is a hideously bad lynch. he's not scum just a bad player. prplhz' is making this shit case against kush and opting out of the discussion and yall are just letting it slide for some reason. vote prplhz
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