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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:17 GMT
#1223
I had four hours, you guys just can't read my posts and are making stuff up.
I was caught up with the thread when I made the case, I didn't say I thought I looked bad I said I felt guilty.

On April 23 2013 11:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity


Yeah okay I might have started reading and then figured I would read the last two pages and see palmar talking about possibly being the hammervote so figured I'd show my face. interested why you think my case is reaching, though.


This refers to me saying that I'm here now, not my case post. and because I posted that I felt obliged to post some original thoughts, and I felt on a dealine cause it was 5 am. In fact my case post starts with saying I have no clue about oats.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:20 GMT
#1225
And to this day I still don't understand what the "points against yamato and oats" were, so how could I comment on them. They were both trolly. Now oats is dead and yamato was 100% confident that he was town by the end.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:21 GMT
#1227
On April 24 2013 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
Why did clarity say that he felt the urge to post something quickly cause he thought his late entrance looked bad? How was it of any concern to him at that point.

Actually, that's a good point that i missed. I didn't read "Guess I felt like contributing something fresh since I felt guilty for missing the start of the game" like that.

Show nested quote +
why did he avoid to comment on the points against yamato and Oats and instead called them policy lynches, which is like the laziest, most ineffective way for purposes of getting to a better lynch?

That's the thing that concerns me about Clarity, mainly. The other thing is that he promised to look onto other people and has not done so yet, but has posted some nonsense since.


A little bit of patience please? night is still young.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:21 GMT
#1228
ninja'd, no I have not, am now.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:30 GMT
#1232
On April 24 2013 06:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 06:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
I had four hours, you guys just can't read my posts and are making stuff up.
I was caught up with the thread when I made the case, I didn't say I thought I looked bad I said I felt guilty.

On April 23 2013 11:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity


Yeah okay I might have started reading and then figured I would read the last two pages and see palmar talking about possibly being the hammervote so figured I'd show my face. interested why you think my case is reaching, though.


This refers to me saying that I'm here now, not my case post. and because I posted that I felt obliged to post some original thoughts, and I felt on a dealine cause it was 5 am. In fact my case post starts with saying I have no clue about oats.


No, that was your answer to BM asking why you took an hour to cook that case against Sharrant. It wasn't BM saying "why do you post now"? There is a nested quote you're replying to with that.


Can I just clear this up and then we move on? Apparently this is a really big deal.

I was reading for 2 or so hours, then I decided in my genius I should look at the last two pages, noticed the word hammer and decided I would say "I'm here", then I finished reading and made the case.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:35 GMT
#1235
On April 24 2013 06:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 06:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 24 2013 06:23 Vivax wrote:
On April 24 2013 06:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
I had four hours, you guys just can't read my posts and are making stuff up.
I was caught up with the thread when I made the case, I didn't say I thought I looked bad I said I felt guilty.

On April 23 2013 11:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity


Yeah okay I might have started reading and then figured I would read the last two pages and see palmar talking about possibly being the hammervote so figured I'd show my face. interested why you think my case is reaching, though.


This refers to me saying that I'm here now, not my case post. and because I posted that I felt obliged to post some original thoughts, and I felt on a dealine cause it was 5 am. In fact my case post starts with saying I have no clue about oats.


No, that was your answer to BM asking why you took an hour to cook that case against Sharrant. It wasn't BM saying "why do you post now"? There is a nested quote you're replying to with that.


Can I just clear this up and then we move on? Apparently this is a really big deal.

I was reading for 2 or so hours, then I decided in my genius I should look at the last two pages, noticed the word hammer and decided I would say "I'm here", then I finished reading and made the case.


Does that mean you replied to BM with something else than he intended?
He never criticized you for saying "I'm here".

So you read 2 hours, then announced you were here, catching up, then read another hour, and posted THAT case against Sharrant without knowing what was going on in the yamato / Oats issue?

Seems legit.


Again you think I didn't know what what going on with the yamato oats stuff.
He criticized me for taking an hour to read the whole thread and post a case, when in fact I had a bit over three hours.

CAN WE FUCKING MOVE ON?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 21:41 GMT
#1238
On April 24 2013 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You had read the thread you knew that Sharrant was a town read for almost everyone in thread. Why did you decide to make a case that would not possibly gain support instead of figuring out what was the deal with yamato/Oats?


Because he is not a townread for me and I thought it would be more productive than the 10 page shitfest with yamato and oats.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 22:22 GMT
#1253
On April 24 2013 07:20 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2013 07:02 Vivax wrote:
The explanation doesn't add up at all.

Starts reading -> Says I'm here after 2h-> case after 1 h -> BM calls him out saying the case is bad and made in just one hour -> Clarity answers "Yeah well I figured I'd say hi after seeing that I didn't post anything -> Vivax calls him out again for quick case -> Clarity: "Yeah well I actually read for 3 hours."

Why does he answer to BM, talking about clarity's case being bad and the short time (second post), with a justification for his entrance post (first post)?
______________________________________________________________________________________________________
Clarity could have replied, as town: "I actually read for 3 hours, so what's your problem with my case?"

But Clarity was scared that his case looked scummy cause of BM's reaction, so he instead posted a justification for his late entrance, which he knew looked bad, and felt guilty for. And he didn't want to correct BM in saying that he read for so long precisely cause he'd have had less justification to explain the bad case.

Now that he's being pressured for the short time in which the case was written, he gives another justification where he actually claims that he was reading for a longer time.

When BM pressured him, he wanted to make it look like he made something in haste by arguing that he wanted to post before the hammer.
Now that it's exactly the point against him, he says that he was actually reading for a longer time.

he's lying
he claims he read the thread in an hour. try reading 50 pages in an hour. Drazak/Clarity have both spent about the same time "catching up" if you notice - around 45 minutes to an hour - which is long enough to coordinate with scum, but not really determine what is going on in the thread


READ MY FUCKING POSTS DIPSHIT
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 22:54 GMT
#1266
Last time I'm going to address this but if you guys wanna circlejerk over something completely stupid and wrong after that then go ahead.

On April 23 2013 11:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 11:34 Bill Murray wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
I am here now and catching up, did not expect this game to start so soon, sorry.

one hour later has read the entire game and made a case on sharrant?
his case is really tunnely, and reaching, as well
FoS Clarity


1)Yeah okay I might have started reading and then figured I would read the last two pages and see palmar talking about possibly being the hammervote so figured I'd show my face. 2)interested why you think my case is reaching, though.


BM's post adresses both of my posts. My original entry and my case post an hour later.
He says "lol he read entire thread in 1 hour yeah right?" and comments that the case is bad

I reply this (gonna paraphrase to get it in your thick skulls)
1) This is a reply to the first part, about my entry post.
a) "Yeah okay I might have started reading and then", this is me saying I was already in the process of catching up
b) Yes I saw Palmar say it was close to hammer so figured I'd post that I'm here and catching up
2) This is a reply to the second part, about the case.

Then people start spewing shit about how it "took me an hour from catching up to posting a case and that's impossible" even though I thought I fucking addressed that in the above post. So I clarify saying I had been reading two hours prior to my entry post.
The only time I show lack of conviction in my case is after wave comments on it properly, not before.

Everyone satisfied?

As for the people I said I'd check: pretty confident BC is town, giygas is who the fuck knows and I don't understand why the fuck shiao hammered after showing no interest in oats whatsoever.

I'm going to bed, tomorrow I'm going to find scum and ignore everyone because this is just pissing me off.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 23:01 GMT
#1270
On April 24 2013 07:58 Bill Murray wrote:
Clarity, before you go - NO, I am NOT satisfied
You're "Reading two hours before" but you find your way to the last 2 pages randomly? explain that logic


I honestly don't remember nor care.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
April 23 2013 23:03 GMT
#1272
On April 24 2013 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So why did you decide those three players were the ones you should be reading more into over, let's say yamato/Oats?


cause I had already read over oats and yamato
Those three names were just cause looking at the playerlist I couldn't recall anything about them, reads etc.
BC had a ton of stupid miller discussion crap but today he's as green as can be

Bed now.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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