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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 23 2014 16:31 GMT
#401
That's slightly incorrect, sword and stealths forfeit their prior points due to changing 3+ players. So sadly neo-sword has no shot.
Glorious SEA doto
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
July 23 2014 16:47 GMT
#402
On July 24 2014 01:31 Fusilero wrote:
That's slightly incorrect, sword and stealths forfeit their prior points due to changing 3+ players. So sadly neo-sword has no shot.


At least, this roster has a chance to stay more than 3 months, it's good start already.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 23 2014 17:52 GMT
#403
Can SKT1 K Make Worlds this year Mathematically?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-23 19:07:21
July 23 2014 18:22 GMT
#404
On July 24 2014 02:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Can SKT1 K Make Worlds this year Mathematically?


It's not hard to read something before posting though.

On July 24 2014 00:43 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 22:40 Fusilero wrote:
At this point kakao and faker are the only two non samsung players in contention with their counterparts on samsung. Piglet has fallen off a cliff, arrow forgot how to cs, rookie/ssumday aren't quite there yet, flame/save are stuck behind the times and ggoong's struggle is too real.


Swift.

Anyway, K still have chance to get direct spot to Worlds, rofl. Not like i'm worried for T1 in qualifiers against half-dead NJWS/random result KT A, but still.
Also, S is higher than K this season, lel.

Still.

- If K win NLB and finish with 525 points and we just assume that Rock doesn't oneshot Acorn on toplane, so Blue advance into semifinals:

a) White lose to Blue in semifinals and beat S for third place - 525 as well, tiebreaker.
b) White lose to Blue in semifinals and lose to S, S literally save the spot for K, don't achieve anything by themselves.
c) Blue lose to White, White advance as #1 in OGN circuit, K is going to qualifiers.

- If K don't win NLB, so finish with 470(490,510).

With 470 - #3 in OGN circuit.
With 490 or 510 - back into b-point.

For KT A, going into finals confirm their spot in qualifiers, so if Blaze mess up in NLB, we can easily see KT vs KT in first round of qualifers assuming that they're same as last season.
Same with S, so first semifinal is for place in qualifiers, second - for #1 seed in Korea.


On July 24 2014 03:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 03:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 24 2014 02:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Can SKT1 K Make Worlds this year Mathematically?


It's not hard to read something before posting though.

On July 24 2014 00:43 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 23 2014 22:40 Fusilero wrote:
At this point kakao and faker are the only two non samsung players in contention with their counterparts on samsung. Piglet has fallen off a cliff, arrow forgot how to cs, rookie/ssumday aren't quite there yet, flame/save are stuck behind the times and ggoong's struggle is too real.


Swift.

Anyway, K still have chance to get direct spot to Worlds, rofl. Not like i'm worried for T1 in qualifiers against half-dead NJWS/random result KT A, but still.
Also, S is higher than K this season, lel.

Still.

- If K win NLB and finish with 525 points and we just assume that Rock doesn't oneshot Acorn on toplane, so Blue advance into semifinals:

a) White lose to Blue in semifinals and beat S for third place - 525 as well, tiebreaker.
b) White lose to Blue in semifinals and lose to S, S literally save the spot for K, don't achieve anything by themselves.
c) Blue lose to White, White advance as #1 in OGN circuit, K is going to qualifiers.

- If K don't win NLB, so finish with 470(490,510).

With 470 - #3 in OGN circuit.
With 490 or 510 - back into b-point.

For KT A, going into finals confirm their spot in qualifiers, so if Blaze mess up in NLB, we can easily see KT vs KT in first round of qualifers assuming that they're same as last season.
Same with S, so first semifinal is for place in qualifiers, second - for #1 seed in Korea.


Didn't see this post :| Thanks!


<3 Np.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 23 2014 18:32 GMT
#405
On July 24 2014 03:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 02:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Can SKT1 K Make Worlds this year Mathematically?


It's not hard to read something before posting though.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:43 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 23 2014 22:40 Fusilero wrote:
At this point kakao and faker are the only two non samsung players in contention with their counterparts on samsung. Piglet has fallen off a cliff, arrow forgot how to cs, rookie/ssumday aren't quite there yet, flame/save are stuck behind the times and ggoong's struggle is too real.


Swift.

Anyway, K still have chance to get direct spot to Worlds, rofl. Not like i'm worried for T1 in qualifiers against half-dead NJWS/random result KT A, but still.
Also, S is higher than K this season, lel.

Still.

- If K win NLB and finish with 525 points and we just assume that Rock doesn't oneshot Acorn on toplane, so Blue advance into semifinals:

a) White lose to Blue in semifinals and beat S for third place - 525 as well, tiebreaker.
b) White lose to Blue in semifinals and lose to S, S literally save the spot for K, don't achieve anything by themselves.
c) Blue lose to White, White advance as #1 in OGN circuit, K is going to qualifiers.

- If K don't win NLB, so finish with 470(490,510).

With 470 - #3 in OGN circuit.
With 490 or 510 - back into b-point.

For KT A, going into finals confirm their spot in qualifiers, so if Blaze mess up in NLB, we can easily see KT vs KT in first round of qualifers assuming that they're same as last season.
Same with S, so first semifinal is for place in qualifiers, second - for #1 seed in Korea.


Didn't see this post :| Thanks!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 23 2014 19:45 GMT
#406
Also, if Blue loses to Stealth, K and Blue might meet up in NLB Semifinal to play for the direct spot at worlds.
Liquipedia"Expert"
pfreedy
Profile Joined July 2014
2 Posts
July 23 2014 21:20 GMT
#407
How do circuit points relate to Worlds spots? Top 3 go?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 23 2014 21:30 GMT
#408
On July 24 2014 06:20 pfreedy wrote:
How do circuit points relate to Worlds spots? Top 3 go?

Top 2 go. 3-6 + 1 Master's winner team play weighted playoffs for 3rd spot.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 23 2014 21:31 GMT
#409
Hold on, if both samsung teams qualify for top 2 (which is likely) then what happens to the master's slot?
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 23 2014 21:35 GMT
#410
On July 24 2014 06:31 Fusilero wrote:
Hold on, if both samsung teams qualify for top 2 (which is likely) then what happens to the master's slot?

Ha! You thought Kespa predicted that would happen? I doubt they know.

Maybe 7&8 do a series for it. Idk.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
July 24 2014 00:01 GMT
#411
On July 24 2014 06:31 Fusilero wrote:
Hold on, if both samsung teams qualify for top 2 (which is likely) then what happens to the master's slot?


In twist of fate, Easyhoon and Co get spot as #2 team in Masters and then sweep qualifiers.
Rofl.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 24 2014 02:30 GMT
#412
On July 23 2014 22:40 Fusilero wrote:
At this point kakao and faker are the only two non samsung players in contention with their counterparts on samsung. Piglet has fallen off a cliff, arrow forgot how to cs, rookie/ssumday aren't quite there yet, flame/save are stuck behind the times and ggoong's struggle is too real.


On the subject of top class non-Samsung players, this was Deft's choice for each of the positions that was not from his organization.

Top: Ssumday (large champion pool, strong laning)
Jungle: KaKAO (good mentality, his aggressive style suits the current metagame)
Mid-lane: Faker (the best non-Samsung player in Deft's eyes)
AD Carry: Bang (strong laning)
Support: PoohManDu (needs an older presence to take of younger players like Bang)
TL+ Member
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
July 24 2014 02:40 GMT
#413
That's kinda surprising on the Ssumday pick, everything I've heard is that he's average.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 24 2014 03:01 GMT
#414
I also find the mandu pick quite weak. Even a risky pick like Cain or Wolf would be better.
Freeeeeeedom
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 24 2014 05:02 GMT
#415
On July 24 2014 11:40 Gahlo wrote:
That's kinda surprising on the Ssumday pick, everything I've heard is that he's average.


Says who? Ssumday is one of the most mechanically gifted top laners around.
TL+ Member
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
July 24 2014 05:43 GMT
#416
On July 24 2014 11:40 Gahlo wrote:
That's kinda surprising on the Ssumday pick, everything I've heard is that he's average.

people never credit ssumday because they remember that he was bad before, even though now he's really, really good. he manhandled save in the quarterfinals after kt learned to ban gragas - his mundo in particular just destroyed njws late game in game 3.
jaedong the man with the huge dong
V0ren
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands233 Posts
July 24 2014 07:46 GMT
#417
On July 24 2014 12:01 cLutZ wrote:
I also find the mandu pick quite weak. Even a risky pick like Cain or Wolf would be better.


While Mandu isn't the best when it comes to mechanics and and champion pool, I think he rounds of a team pretty well. He has experience and all that. When Piglet wasn't slumping bad I always had the idea that it was Mandu that kept Piglet in line and stopped him from doing stupid shit. When SKT went with Casper for a couple of weeks you could see Piglet still had the mechanics right but he made a lot of mistakes when it came to decision making.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
July 24 2014 08:08 GMT
#418
Mandu is still one of the best supports in Korea. Can´t think of many, I would consider better than him. maybe 2 or 3.
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
July 24 2014 08:25 GMT
#419
Ogn is braindead with this bracket

If blue win quarter they automatically qualify for worlds, so white 100% semi-finals i mean blue wont probaly try hard vs their sister team.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 24 2014 14:18 GMT
#420
I just think mandu has too many Dora the explora moments.
Freeeeeeedom
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