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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 13 2012 21:00 GMT
#21
I don't think beating Xenics Storm and CJ Entus are worth mentioning for SKT1, because those are both low-mid tier opponents. That's like saying a NA team beat Fear and TD.
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DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 21:32:25
December 13 2012 21:26 GMT
#22
On December 14 2012 06:00 Sufficiency wrote:
I don't think beating Xenics Storm and CJ Entus are worth mentioning for SKT1, because those are both low-mid tier opponents. That's like saying a NA team beat Fear and TD.


Well, SKT T1 haven't played too many official matches yet, so any comparison is good to determine their level. Guess we've all heard the stories about ESG successfully scrimming the NaJin teams and TPA, but those are "just" scrims.

Also, are you seriously comparing CJ Entus and Team OP to FeaR and TD? They may not be top-tier teams in Korea, but judging from OGN Winter, they'd wipe the floor with mid-tier european and american teams any day (just check back to OGN Summer, where mid-tier teams like Na'Vi and Dignitas couldn't even make it out of the group phase and didn't look good at all).
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 13 2012 21:28 GMT
#23
SKT T1

Thanks.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 13 2012 21:31 GMT
#24
SK TT1
Heard it here first.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 14 2012 15:27 GMT
#25
Bump.

Last IEM of 2012 with quite a nice lineup of teams present.

Games officially start in about 30 minutes. Who else is going to be watching this with me?
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Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
December 14 2012 15:34 GMT
#26
Thank you for the bump, almost missed this one. Too bad i already rented the new batman movie, and it expires in 6 hours, probably have to squeeze that one in at some point. :#
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
December 14 2012 15:34 GMT
#27
I want Fnatic to do well, they used to be really inconsistant but it's seems to be OK now.. I hope !
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14073 Posts
December 14 2012 15:34 GMT
#28
Its not up on the sidebar? A pretty big event like this has an sc2 component as well right?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 15:36:19
December 14 2012 15:34 GMT
#29
Today on OGN stream Monte said that SKT T1's mid is pretty weak, lets see how this will pan out but I don't think SKT T1 can compete will EU teams yet.
I am busing playing normal with one of my buddy but will manage to watch a game or two . I am gonna watch Fnatic closely to make sure that their performance in IPL wasn't just a one time wonder . CLG.EU vs Fnantic final would be great.
Terran
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 14 2012 15:54 GMT
#30
On December 15 2012 00:34 Sermokala wrote:
Its not up on the sidebar? A pretty big event like this has an sc2 component as well right?


It's up.
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DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
December 14 2012 15:58 GMT
#31
Really want to watch this, have other obligations, though. Typical, for once we get a tournament with european times (though IPL 5 was okay for the most part) and I'm busy. Well, you guys better make some votes about recommended VODs, so people like me can skip the stomps and watch good games only
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 14 2012 15:59 GMT
#32
http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_lolb

Stream is up.
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DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 16:01:46
December 14 2012 16:00 GMT
#33
On December 15 2012 00:59 NeoIllusions wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_lolb

Stream is up.

German stream though, http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_lol is the english one
Kaelaris
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom788 Posts
December 14 2012 16:03 GMT
#34
Hello everyone! I am totally Kaelaris and not Zenon trolling him! Personally I think Alternate will take it all because Forellenlord is so dreamy.
CommentatorESL Commentator ♞ Facebook.com/Kaelaris ♞ Twitter.com/Kaelaris ♞ Youtube.com/Kaelaris ♞ Twitch.tv/Kaelaris
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
December 14 2012 16:04 GMT
#35
In totally unrelated news, Zenon here from the Analysis Desk. This will be a great tournament! What are we thinking about the Koreans?
My modesty is awesome.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 14 2012 16:07 GMT
#36
Jumping on the SKT ship early, because it's SKT.

But looking to see how Reapered does. When talking to Loco over IPL5, he ranks Reapered around A tier, not quite up there with MakNooN, Shy and Stanley.
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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
December 14 2012 16:07 GMT
#37
On December 15 2012 01:04 DanielZKlein wrote:
In totally unrelated news, Zenon here from the Analysis Desk. This will be a great tournament! What are we thinking about the Koreans?



We'll see how SKT will fare versus mousesports, but i'm hoping they'll place in the top 3 (<3 reapered). Not sure about CJ seems like a decent b-tier team.
hi
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 16:09:13
December 14 2012 16:08 GMT
#38
On December 15 2012 01:04 DanielZKlein wrote:
In totally unrelated news, Zenon here from the Analysis Desk. This will be a great tournament! What are we thinking about the Koreans?

Depends on how they took traveling to Germany. If they show up unhampered, they're definite title contenders, otherwise we might see both going out in the group stages. SKT T1 has the advantage of being new, so people have yet to figure them out, while the strenghts of CJ Entus should be fairly well-known. As DoA/Montecristo pointed out on OGN, SKT might have trouble with strong midlaners, as Mightily might be their weak spot.

I'm still going with CLG-SKT-fnatic-CJ finishing first to fourth, though I hope fnatic can take this event as well.
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
December 14 2012 16:09 GMT
#39
I've been chatting to Reaperd and the SKT guys. They seem pretty confident, but mostly that was because Millenium's FatMamma told them he'd take them out tonight
My modesty is awesome.
LasTLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States428 Posts
December 14 2012 16:11 GMT
#40
Excited to see how SKT1 matches up, hoping they do well here. And as a CJ fan I really want them to do well, but their play in Champions Winter has been pretty mediocre so far. Hopefully they can step it up and play some good games. Overall, I think it should be a good event, pretty good lineup this time around.
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