EPT[DH] Summer 2012 Discussion - Page 4
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sharky246
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
On June 17 2012 23:08 Alaric wrote: SGS throwing so hard tower diving both nexus turret against an Alistar when both Corki and Malph had like 300 hp left, instead of killing a second inhib. Quadra Ali and the game flow reversed. That's probably the GPL (Garena Premier League) which has teams from Taiwan and SEA. The tournament prior was the StarsWar 7 LAN held in Shanghai earlier today and had WE vs TPA in the finals. On June 17 2012 23:48 gulati wrote: Add the LoL stream to the TeamLiquid ON AIR section please. I really don't think it's fair that DotA2 is up there and LoL isn't, considering LoL has over 66K concurrent viewers right now. (Not to be a dick, just want my LoL represented). http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacklol Some of the TL.net admins are huge DotA 2 fans so they make sure DotA 2 is represented in TL.net and it's easy for them to do so. I'm guessing our mods have to go through approval channels to get LoL featured and other such things. | ||
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
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ketchup
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sharky246
1197 Posts
On June 18 2012 00:19 ketchup wrote: You guys are complaining to the wrong people. The topic creator has no say on what's represented there. Pretty sure TL does not support LoL unofficially or officially. They do, on the other hand, officially support DotA. This is why you see the DotA listing on the On Air portion. They listed the stream link when ogn lol tournament was on (albeit, with inconsistency). So i don't think it's a matter of support. | ||
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1ntrigue
Australia948 Posts
On June 18 2012 00:17 SilverStar wrote: Why isn't hon featured either? Because both are not really active on TL. Just an observation. DH discussion thread in the league forum 4 pages. Dota 2? 57 pages. That's not a fair comparison. MLG was last weekend and was a huge tournament. This weekend, we have GeSL and DH, both of which are relatively minor in terms of LoL tournaments due to weaker team line-ups and smaller prize pools. DotA 2 has very few offline LANs a year and DH is one of them. If you want to compare the popularity of LoL vs DotA 2 on TL, you can simply compare the number of posts in the DotA 2 General Discussion thread with the accumulative amount of LoL General Discussion posts in the past year or so. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On June 18 2012 00:21 sharky246 wrote: They listed the stream link when ogn lol tournament was on (albeit, with inconsistency). So i don't think it's a matter of support. I'm pretty sure that's proof this is a matter of support. An inconsistent stream display when compared to anything with DotA2 or anything with Tobi casting is ALWAYS linked. I'm relatively certain MLGLoL was also not there. There was only SC2 representation. Think about it. Even with the very active LoL community on TL, the lack of support for LoL is telling. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 18 2012 00:16 1ntrigue wrote: Some of the TL.net admins are huge DotA 2 fans so they make sure DotA 2 is represented in TL.net and it's easy for them to do so. I'm guessing our mods have to go through approval channels to get LoL featured and other such things. Alternatively, Neo is lazy and/or playing Diablo 3 right now.  | ||
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sharky246
1197 Posts
On June 18 2012 00:32 ketchup wrote: I'm pretty sure that's proof this is a matter of support. An inconsistent stream display when compared to anything with DotA2 or anything with Tobi casting is ALWAYS linked. I'm relatively certain MLGLoL was also not there. There was only SC2 representation. Think about it. Even with the very active LoL community on TL, the lack of support for LoL is telling. wow i did not know mlg had lol. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On June 18 2012 00:16 1ntrigue wrote: Some of the TL.net admins are huge DotA 2 fans so they make sure DotA 2 is represented in TL.net and it's easy for them to do so. I'm guessing our mods have to go through approval channels to get LoL featured and other such things. On June 18 2012 00:38 TheYango wrote: Alternatively, Neo is lazy and/or playing Diablo 3 right now. I'd like to think it was this simple, but this does not explain the lack of MLGLoL stream listing on MLG weekend. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 18 2012 00:43 ketchup wrote: I'd like to think it was this simple, but this does not explain the lack of MLGLoL stream listing on MLG weekend. Sure it does: Neo was playing even more D3 then than he does now. | ||
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On June 18 2012 00:43 ketchup wrote: I'd like to think it was this simple, but this does not explain the lack of MLGLoL stream listing on MLG weekend. As someone else mentioned already, Neo doesn't have the power to put up events to the calendar. Sometimes the event requests it themselves (i.e. IPL, GESL) but we've been asking heyoka for help in most cases. It's a bit of people being busy and us being lazy to make sure the streams are attached. On June 18 2012 00:56 ketchup wrote: Yes, I mentioned that. Maybe I'm being misunderstood. I'm stating that it was more than easy for TL to know that LoL was on alongside SC2 at MLG. It's also easy for them to link to the stream as well. The fact that the stream was not there is the fact that TL has pretty much officially supported one game, DotA2, rather than LoL. It's not as bad as you make it sound. As far as I know, TL hasn't "cut" support for LoL, just that the current staff members have more interest in Dota2. Neo, MoonBear, and myself just have to make sure to remind the right people about the steam sometimes. Regarding last weekend at MLG, I didn't even realize the sidebar was an issue since I thought it was an external link that can watch all of MLG's streams on the same page. I think MLG also had own.3d/twitch.tv streams for LoL in case people can't watch from their page but those aren't usually linked even for SC2. We definitely would have made a request to link LoL if we knew people were having trouble finding the stream. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On June 18 2012 00:51 JBright wrote: As someone else mentioned already, Neo doesn't have the power to put up events to the calendar. Sometimes the event requests it themselves (i.e. IPL) but we've been asking heyoka for help in most cases. It's a bit of people being busy and us being lazy to make sure the streams are attached. Yes, I mentioned that. Maybe I'm being misunderstood. I'm stating that it was more than easy for TL to know that LoL was on alongside SC2 at MLG. It's also easy for them to link to the stream as well. The fact that the stream was not there is the fact that TL has pretty much officially supported one game, DotA2 over LoL. I don't think it was a fault of Neo or anyone else that it was not there | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 18 2012 00:56 ketchup wrote: Yes, I mentioned that. Maybe I'm being misunderstood. I'm stating that it was more than easy for TL to know that LoL was on alongside SC2 at MLG. It's also easy for them to link to the stream as well. The fact that the stream was not there is the fact that TL has pretty much officially supported one game, DotA2 over LoL. I don't think it was a fault of Neo or anyone else that it was not there You're phrasing this like it's DotA 2 AGAINST LoL. TL has no vested interest one way or another, so it's not like DotA 2 excludes the possibility of supporting LoL at some future point in time. It just happens to be that among the staff, DotA 2 is more popular right now. Bear in mind that we also got our own subforum before anyone else did. At that time, I seem to remember people in the HoN/DotA thread complaining about favoritism TOWARD LoL. | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On June 18 2012 01:00 TheYango wrote: You're phrasing this like it's DotA 2 AGAINST LoL. TL has no vested interest one way or another, so it's not like DotA 2 excludes the possibility of supporting LoL at some future point in time. I'm mostly just going by what I've seen. It sure feels like it's one or the other on TL. Especially on the representation the LoL community gets on the stream listing. I just want to make it clear before I get misunderstood. I enjoy both games. I dislike the somewhat obvious difference in representation shown by TL | ||
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SoulSever
Canada779 Posts
On June 18 2012 01:01 Keniji wrote: froggen is such a scumbag LOL. Eventually going to be an entire team of scumbags on clg eu | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 18 2012 01:02 ketchup wrote: I just want to make it clear before I get misunderstood. I enjoy both games. I dislike the somewhat obvious difference in representation shown by TL Again, there was a time not so long ago when the perceived "favoritism" went the other way. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On June 18 2012 01:06 TheYango wrote: Again, there was a time not so long ago when the perceived "favoritism" went the other way. I understand your point, but do not necessarily see why it has anything to do with the stream listing. I think we are talking about two different issues at this point. | ||
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