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Team Flair has been added as of Aug 26. Go to your profile to choose reset your team pennants.
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4933 Posts
August 18 2015 19:17 GMT
#841
I'm not the TL coder or smth, but that's most likely the main issue. Especially old SC teams won't be availiable from the other sites. Anyone who is able to use a graphic program could create such images and upload them to say imgur for TL to use.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
August 18 2015 20:00 GMT
#842
On August 19 2015 04:05 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2015 22:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i use TL.Net to sort out what games to watch. that process got easier with the new site design.

why are people getting angry with the new site? i mean... what are they doing on here that the new design ruined their experience?

However honestly for me, this "redesign" is mainly a sad observation that TL has fallen into the same vein of "let's break what works to make it pretty and modern" that has destroyed almost anything usable on the internet. My problem with the thing is that it really did improve exactly nothing for me, while it broke stuff that perfectly worked.


same thing happened to the ESPN.com site.. its looks lovely and is about 90% as good as the old ugly site. i want to see the scores of all the games in the top bar. when you scroll you miss 1 of the games on the extreme right and it scrolls right past it and off the screen.

i feel the new functionality in the TL.Net site has made it easier for me to watch SC games on my desktop. if it now sucks balls on phones ... well.. that sucks.
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yurisan
Profile Joined October 2014
Poland35 Posts
August 18 2015 20:01 GMT
#843
On August 19 2015 02:50 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 01:31 yurisan wrote:
pleaseeeee fix Team Liquid Streams extension for Firefox - it still leads to http://www.liquidhearth.com/stream/ !!!

Seems there were some places in the XML feed that weren't updated. I've changed this so hopefully it will work now.



works great. thanks !!!
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
August 18 2015 20:18 GMT
#844
On August 19 2015 05:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 04:05 opisska wrote:
On August 17 2015 22:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i use TL.Net to sort out what games to watch. that process got easier with the new site design.

why are people getting angry with the new site? i mean... what are they doing on here that the new design ruined their experience?

However honestly for me, this "redesign" is mainly a sad observation that TL has fallen into the same vein of "let's break what works to make it pretty and modern" that has destroyed almost anything usable on the internet. My problem with the thing is that it really did improve exactly nothing for me, while it broke stuff that perfectly worked.


same thing happened to the ESPN.com site.. its looks lovely and is about 90% as good as the old ugly site. i want to see the scores of all the games in the top bar. when you scroll you miss 1 of the games on the extreme right and it scrolls right past it and off the screen.

i feel the new functionality in the TL.Net site has made it easier for me to watch SC games on my desktop. if it now sucks balls on phones ... well.. that sucks.

See, I find the new mobile version FAR superior and desktop to be about the same.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 18 2015 20:26 GMT
#845
On August 19 2015 05:18 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 05:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On August 19 2015 04:05 opisska wrote:
On August 17 2015 22:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i use TL.Net to sort out what games to watch. that process got easier with the new site design.

why are people getting angry with the new site? i mean... what are they doing on here that the new design ruined their experience?

However honestly for me, this "redesign" is mainly a sad observation that TL has fallen into the same vein of "let's break what works to make it pretty and modern" that has destroyed almost anything usable on the internet. My problem with the thing is that it really did improve exactly nothing for me, while it broke stuff that perfectly worked.


same thing happened to the ESPN.com site.. its looks lovely and is about 90% as good as the old ugly site. i want to see the scores of all the games in the top bar. when you scroll you miss 1 of the games on the extreme right and it scrolls right past it and off the screen.

i feel the new functionality in the TL.Net site has made it easier for me to watch SC games on my desktop. if it now sucks balls on phones ... well.. that sucks.

See, I find the new mobile version FAR superior and desktop to be about the same.


If I can take a wild guess, it would be that with the new design, your experience depends on your phone. I just plain out refuse to buy a new phone (or go to extreme lenghts to install any new software on my phone with unlikely results) just because people believe that "progress" is necessary even in things that work fine. The old version, on the other hand, when I good get the static desktop page, worked on anything that could render basic HTML.

JJR: if the new design helps you to watch games, good for you. I can't really imagine how it does that, but everyone has different habits and wishes, I guess. If anything, for me it is slower because it is physically more letters to navigate around to find what I want to watch, but that's because my decision tree for SC2 is fairly limited (it essentially goes as "is GSL/SSL/SPL/a premier weekend LAN on").
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
August 19 2015 00:38 GMT
#846
team pennants/flair should be working in the near future, so please be patient for them. As for the the old mobile experience while I appreciate that people got used to the old way of doing things, that design suffers an overwhelming amount of usability issues that we absolutely had to address (if you don't believe me, believe Google).
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 19 2015 08:16 GMT
#847
Funny how the "more usable" design requires more user inputs for any action. Yes, it probably requires less brain cells, but is that really the goal?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8073 Posts
August 19 2015 10:02 GMT
#848
On August 19 2015 17:16 opisska wrote:
Funny how the "more usable" design requires more user inputs for any action. Yes, it probably requires less brain cells, but is that really the goal?


I've commented on this before as well, and I agree. I hate that "mobil friendly" indicates that two buttons has to cover the entire screen just because people don't want to pinch and zoom.

Easiest solution is of course to let people choose which one they want
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 19 2015 10:08 GMT
#849
As far as I understand, the "mobile" version of the new site is just the standart site reacting to the mobile resolution (as setting user-agent to desktop does not change anything). Does anyone know a mobile browser that has the function to lie abou resolution (in addition to user-agent) to look completely like an innocent dekstop?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8073 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 10:11:12
August 19 2015 10:10 GMT
#850
On August 19 2015 19:08 opisska wrote:
As far as I understand, the "mobile" version of the new site is just the standart site reacting to the mobile resolution (as setting user-agent to desktop does not change anything). Does anyone know a mobile browser that has the function to lie abou resolution (in addition to user-agent) to look completely like an innocent dekstop?


Not resolution, but screen size (You can replicate it on your desktop by making the browser window smaller as well). I don't think there is any way to lie about your window/screen size to html5

If there is, I'm interested in it too.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 19 2015 10:16 GMT
#851
On August 19 2015 19:10 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 19:08 opisska wrote:
As far as I understand, the "mobile" version of the new site is just the standart site reacting to the mobile resolution (as setting user-agent to desktop does not change anything). Does anyone know a mobile browser that has the function to lie abou resolution (in addition to user-agent) to look completely like an innocent dekstop?


Not resolution, but screen size (You can replicate it on your desktop by making the browser window smaller as well). I don't think there is any way to lie about your window/screen size to html5

If there is, I'm interested in it too.


Back in our day, resolution meant screen size And you surely can lie, html5 has nothing to do with that, all this data is sent in http headers. And even if it weren't, it's still data that your device has to send in any form and there is nothing the page can to to stop you from lying - you only need to have the software that lies for you.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 10:34:58
August 19 2015 10:34 GMT
#852
On August 19 2015 19:16 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 19:10 Excludos wrote:
On August 19 2015 19:08 opisska wrote:
As far as I understand, the "mobile" version of the new site is just the standart site reacting to the mobile resolution (as setting user-agent to desktop does not change anything). Does anyone know a mobile browser that has the function to lie abou resolution (in addition to user-agent) to look completely like an innocent dekstop?


Not resolution, but screen size (You can replicate it on your desktop by making the browser window smaller as well). I don't think there is any way to lie about your window/screen size to html5

If there is, I'm interested in it too.


Back in our day, resolution meant screen size And you surely can lie, html5 has nothing to do with that, all this data is sent in http headers. And even if it weren't, it's still data that your device has to send in any form and there is nothing the page can to to stop you from lying - you only need to have the software that lies for you.

This is not a question about what you send to TL but a question of how your browser interprets the data it gets sent from TL
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 19 2015 10:37 GMT
#853
On August 19 2015 19:34 FO-nTTaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 19:16 opisska wrote:
On August 19 2015 19:10 Excludos wrote:
On August 19 2015 19:08 opisska wrote:
As far as I understand, the "mobile" version of the new site is just the standart site reacting to the mobile resolution (as setting user-agent to desktop does not change anything). Does anyone know a mobile browser that has the function to lie abou resolution (in addition to user-agent) to look completely like an innocent dekstop?


Not resolution, but screen size (You can replicate it on your desktop by making the browser window smaller as well). I don't think there is any way to lie about your window/screen size to html5

If there is, I'm interested in it too.


Back in our day, resolution meant screen size And you surely can lie, html5 has nothing to do with that, all this data is sent in http headers. And even if it weren't, it's still data that your device has to send in any form and there is nothing the page can to to stop you from lying - you only need to have the software that lies for you.

This is not a question about what you send to TL but a question of how your browser interprets the data it gets sent from TL


Oh yes, silly me. Then it's even easier to manipulate.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8073 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 11:30:20
August 19 2015 11:28 GMT
#854
Its possible you can fix it in Firefox by changing the value of layout.css.devPixelsPerPx in about:config

I haven't tested this yet as I'm in class and only have chrome on my phone. Chrome doesn't have this option despite frequent requests. But like I said, I don't even know if it will work.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
August 19 2015 13:15 GMT
#855
On August 19 2015 05:26 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 05:18 y0su wrote:
On August 19 2015 05:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On August 19 2015 04:05 opisska wrote:
On August 17 2015 22:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i use TL.Net to sort out what games to watch. that process got easier with the new site design.

why are people getting angry with the new site? i mean... what are they doing on here that the new design ruined their experience?

However honestly for me, this "redesign" is mainly a sad observation that TL has fallen into the same vein of "let's break what works to make it pretty and modern" that has destroyed almost anything usable on the internet. My problem with the thing is that it really did improve exactly nothing for me, while it broke stuff that perfectly worked.


same thing happened to the ESPN.com site.. its looks lovely and is about 90% as good as the old ugly site. i want to see the scores of all the games in the top bar. when you scroll you miss 1 of the games on the extreme right and it scrolls right past it and off the screen.

i feel the new functionality in the TL.Net site has made it easier for me to watch SC games on my desktop. if it now sucks balls on phones ... well.. that sucks.

See, I find the new mobile version FAR superior and desktop to be about the same.


If I can take a wild guess, it would be that with the new design, your experience depends on your phone. I just plain out refuse to buy a new phone (or go to extreme lenghts to install any new software on my phone with unlikely results) just because people believe that "progress" is necessary even in things that work fine. The old version, on the other hand, when I good get the static desktop page, worked on anything that could render basic HTML.

JJR: if the new design helps you to watch games, good for you. I can't really imagine how it does that, but everyone has different habits and wishes, I guess. If anything, for me it is slower because it is physically more letters to navigate around to find what I want to watch, but that's because my decision tree for SC2 is fairly limited (it essentially goes as "is GSL/SSL/SPL/a premier weekend LAN on").

I have a relatively old phone so my guess is more of what I do on TL (from my phone). I mainly browse the forums. Although I do have to navigate more now, I like the easy access to sidebars via menu buttons. I also mainly use my phone while in transit so pressing single buttons and scrolling up/down is more enjoyable... I do expect that once school starts up I'll be glad my "tablet" works more like a pc.
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-20 12:02:42
August 19 2015 23:51 GMT
#856
Thank you for the [teamliquid] uploading pictures.. the text ready to be changed is easy to use.

However, the color of the links does not stick out enough to insure people will see there is a link (that is .. I admit, when one wants to make a less than 4 letter link).
Please change, as in the future that may become an issue.
Thank you for tl.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-21 15:18:50
August 21 2015 10:16 GMT
#857
Would it be possible to add some default layouts to polls? For example in SC2 LR there's used a generally accepted poll layout and it would be much easier to select the layout, then fill in player's name and number of the game and then just hit add and it would generate the poll.

Nowadays people use form history, not sure if this is 100 % reliable.

example of the poll


Edit: Since I am a programmer I tried to do a "poll" generator in PHP(I am a desktop programmer, but with the internet help it's not that hard), but then I found out that the poll is just a link to a saved poll somewhere else. So no temporary solution from me and I am sorry for creating a useless poll not shown anywhere, hope you have a clearing mechanism
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[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1214 Posts
August 21 2015 15:24 GMT
#858
Update on the countdown issue I reported before. It seems that since the site upgrade there is some problem with converting timezones. While it shows the right time on the top left, the time in BBcode (countdown, date) seems to be moved one hour earlier. It happens if code is in KST and viewing is set to CEST, haven't checked other timezones.
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HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States764 Posts
August 21 2015 16:20 GMT
#859
please fix favorite streams....
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
August 21 2015 17:04 GMT
#860
On August 22 2015 01:20 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
please fix favorite streams....

Could you describe the problem in more detail? I've favorited people and they show up fine.
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