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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 08 2012 03:27 GMT
#84601
On November 08 2012 12:25 Kuja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 12:23 Requizen wrote:
On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote:
Well, the problem is that being a goddess or not isn't something which is decided by someone's personal preferences. If you look at the way IU is treated by Korean media, netizens, etc. it's almost undeniable that she's god tier level.
The relative amount of haters compared to fans is really low, she has a long list of variety show appearances, many achievements, etc. IU's persona is unique, she is her own 'brand' in a certain way and almost everyone knows her 'brand'. Once you've got the batman symbol thingy going on, you're safe to say that you're talking about at least a high tier person.
+ Show Spoiler +


It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.

Girls don't need to be chubby to have curves. IU is more or less a board. I do not find that ideal.

Did you miss the picture I posted earlier? If anything is a board...

Which one? The single bad picture of Tiffany that I've ever seen posted? How many times should that come up before people get bored of using it as the one example of why they don't like Tiffany?
It's your boy Guzma!
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
November 08 2012 03:31 GMT
#84602
On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote:
Well, the problem is that being a goddess or not isn't something which is decided by someone's personal preferences. If you look at the way IU is treated by Korean media, netizens, etc. it's almost undeniable that she's god tier level.
The relative amount of haters compared to fans is really low, she has a long list of variety show appearances, many achievements, etc. IU's persona is unique, she is her own 'brand' in a certain way and almost everyone knows her 'brand'. Once you've got the batman symbol thingy going on, you're safe to say that you're talking about at least a high tier person.

It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 12:20 Demizzle wrote:
IU can't be a goddess. She's aged so badly it's almost comical.
Jo Kwon. Now that's a goddess right there.
Also fun fact my sister's friend the singer is now the new DJ for Sound K on Arirang. Not sure if career step forward or backwards.


Lol, was listening to Arirang a few hours ago cause the 'English section' of EBS was over. Well, what was his previous job? Have to agree on the fact that Jo Kwon's a goddess too

this is stupid, and not because you quoted batman.
that's like saying the queen of england is a goddess because of the way people view her and their corresponding treatment of the person.
jokwon is a diva btw.

On November 08 2012 12:01 Kuja wrote:
Taeyeon ain't no goddess, she could potentially be an angel but I don't really see her enough as a mature lady to consider a goddess. Still everyone's little sister who some people want to wife. I ain't judging. Not to mention in half her pictures she looks autistic.

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 11:30 Requizen wrote:
IU never stood out as goddess material to me. Skilled, yes, but her "idol presence" doesn't feel like anything special and her lack of curves isn't my thing. Cute, talented, but not worth all the perfection praise she gets around here.

I could say the exact same thing about Tiffany, but that's not how biases work. Not to mention these are just about her only curves.

GUYS
GUYS
WAIT
WAIT GUYS
GUYS
WAIT

MY BIAS
IS A GODDESS
OK
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 03:33:21
November 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#84603
hahahahaha this is amazing

You guys are awesome ^_^

But go IU <3 yaaay~!
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 03:39:34
November 08 2012 03:38 GMT
#84604
On November 08 2012 12:27 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 12:25 Kuja wrote:
On November 08 2012 12:23 Requizen wrote:
On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote:
Well, the problem is that being a goddess or not isn't something which is decided by someone's personal preferences. If you look at the way IU is treated by Korean media, netizens, etc. it's almost undeniable that she's god tier level.
The relative amount of haters compared to fans is really low, she has a long list of variety show appearances, many achievements, etc. IU's persona is unique, she is her own 'brand' in a certain way and almost everyone knows her 'brand'. Once you've got the batman symbol thingy going on, you're safe to say that you're talking about at least a high tier person.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J6J5BcHFCs


It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.

Girls don't need to be chubby to have curves. IU is more or less a board. I do not find that ideal.

Did you miss the picture I posted earlier? If anything is a board...

Which one? The single bad picture of Tiffany that I've ever seen posted? How many times should that come up before people get bored of using it as the one example of why they don't like Tiffany?

Well I hate to break it to you but...

Low res for safety reasons
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading] [image loading] [image loading]
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 03:41:35
November 08 2012 03:41 GMT
#84605
Here come the bad pictures of each others' biases to prove that other biases are ugly and their biases are perfect. Oh KMD...
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 03:49:00
November 08 2012 03:42 GMT
#84606
--- Nuked ---
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 03:45:55
November 08 2012 03:44 GMT
#84607
On November 08 2012 12:38 Kuja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 12:27 Requizen wrote:
On November 08 2012 12:25 Kuja wrote:
On November 08 2012 12:23 Requizen wrote:
On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote:
Well, the problem is that being a goddess or not isn't something which is decided by someone's personal preferences. If you look at the way IU is treated by Korean media, netizens, etc. it's almost undeniable that she's god tier level.
The relative amount of haters compared to fans is really low, she has a long list of variety show appearances, many achievements, etc. IU's persona is unique, she is her own 'brand' in a certain way and almost everyone knows her 'brand'. Once you've got the batman symbol thingy going on, you're safe to say that you're talking about at least a high tier person.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J6J5BcHFCs


It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.

Girls don't need to be chubby to have curves. IU is more or less a board. I do not find that ideal.

Did you miss the picture I posted earlier? If anything is a board...

Which one? The single bad picture of Tiffany that I've ever seen posted? How many times should that come up before people get bored of using it as the one example of why they don't like Tiffany?

Well I hate to break it to you but...

Low res for safety reasons
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading] [image loading] [image loading]

Those aren't even that bad for pre-debut pictures. I wish any of the girls at my high school looked half that good at her age. At least they're new. E: Well the one on the far right is pretty bad, I guess, but it just looks like weird shadow angles.

The funny thing is, you're the only one attacking other people's biases because they didn't agree with yours. I didn't even call IU bad, in fact I said she was talented and cute, just not my type. I don't know why you're getting all aggressive about this.
It's your boy Guzma!
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
November 08 2012 03:45 GMT
#84608
On November 08 2012 12:41 seiferoth10 wrote:
Here come the bad pictures of each others' biases to prove that other biases are ugly and their biases are perfect. Oh KMD...

I'm not trying to prove anything about IU, but he specifically said "single bad picture".
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
Purpl3
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1067 Posts
November 08 2012 03:46 GMT
#84609
On November 08 2012 12:27 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 12:25 Kuja wrote:
On November 08 2012 12:23 Requizen wrote:
On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote:
Well, the problem is that being a goddess or not isn't something which is decided by someone's personal preferences. If you look at the way IU is treated by Korean media, netizens, etc. it's almost undeniable that she's god tier level.
The relative amount of haters compared to fans is really low, she has a long list of variety show appearances, many achievements, etc. IU's persona is unique, she is her own 'brand' in a certain way and almost everyone knows her 'brand'. Once you've got the batman symbol thingy going on, you're safe to say that you're talking about at least a high tier person.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J6J5BcHFCs


It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.

Girls don't need to be chubby to have curves. IU is more or less a board. I do not find that ideal.

Did you miss the picture I posted earlier? If anything is a board...

Which one? The single bad picture of Tiffany that I've ever seen posted? How many times should that come up before people get bored of using it as the one example of why they don't like Tiffany?

I don't like her cause her face is really bad.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 08 2012 03:46 GMT
#84610
On November 08 2012 12:41 seiferoth10 wrote:
Here come the bad pictures of each others' biases to prove that other biases are ugly and their biases are perfect. Oh KMD...

lol you know people are mad when they start digging up all dem old pics.

Need some Jo Kwon spam to counter this obviously.

[image loading]

Goddess
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Doulmaigus
Profile Joined October 2012
France352 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 03:59:44
November 08 2012 03:57 GMT
#84611
The new Boyfriend MV :


I had no interest in them before. It just appeared in my Youtube subbox. But why not ?
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
November 08 2012 04:00 GMT
#84612
So far what I have gotten from the replies since my last post is:

1. If Taeyeon looks autistic in half her pictures, damn...I fucking love autistic women.
2. Kuja gets mad if someone disagrees with him.
3. The best way to get back at someone is obviously attempt to insult their bias and post bad pictures of them.
4. @Ness: Last time I checked, calling someone a goddess or not is subjective and changes from person to person.

On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote:
It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.


Can you dumb this down for me? Too many negatives for my brain to handle.
5. Apparently you can only call one person a goddess and that is your bias? Not sure how this works. Someone please explain.
6. We already know Jokwon is a goddess.
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 07:37:51
November 08 2012 04:08 GMT
#84613
On November 08 2012 13:00 Fawkes wrote:
So far what I have gotten from the replies since my last post is:

1. If Taeyeon looks autistic in half her pictures, damn...I fucking love autistic women.
2. Kuja gets mad if someone disagrees with him.
3. The best way to get back at someone is obviously attempt to insult their bias and post bad pictures of them.
4. @Ness: Last time I checked, calling someone a goddess or not is subjective and changes from person to person.

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote:
It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.


Can you dumb this down for me? Too many negatives for my brain to handle.
5. Apparently you can only call one person a goddess and that is your bias? Not sure how this works. Someone please explain.
6. We already know Jokwon is a goddess.

Alright, I'll try to break this down for you fawkes ! Definitions are multifaceted, that being said a word can be used in many ways and not all possible definitions of a word have to be met for one to use that word. There is, by nature, a level of objectivity to definitions, this is adversus solem ne loquitor and I should not have to explain this point any further. Lets take the definition that seeker so gratefully provided and look at it again

god·dess   [god-is] Show IPA
noun
1. a female god or deity.
2. a woman of extraordinary beauty and charm.
3. a greatly admired or adored woman.

Now, you could aruge any one of these definitions to be true with IU but since you are looking for objectivity I find it would be hard to argue in any way that IU is not "a greatly admired or adored woman." This makes the objective application of the word goddess reasonable.

And how could I be mad when I'm looking at pictures of IU silly
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 04:11:00
November 08 2012 04:10 GMT
#84614
Don't worry. I already know that the "roommate" is your other personality.

It'll be our lil secret.
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
November 08 2012 04:11 GMT
#84615
On November 08 2012 13:10 Fawkes wrote:
Don't worry. I already know that the "roommate" is your other personality.

It'll be our lil secret.

What?
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
Zenithal
Profile Joined August 2011
United States142 Posts
November 08 2012 04:12 GMT
#84616
And how, exactly, does "a greatly admired or adored woman" not apply to nearly every idol or famous woman on the face of the planet? Does that make Hilary Clinton a goddess?
Whatevs
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 04:16:00
November 08 2012 04:13 GMT
#84617
On November 08 2012 13:12 Zenithal wrote:
And how, exactly, does "a greatly admired or adored woman" not apply to nearly every idol or famous woman on the face of the planet? Does that make Hilary Clinton a goddess?

It could be argued!

Edit: I also agree with Dystopia, this has become very off-topic and shouldn't be discussed anymore in this thread. Feel free to PM me if you need any more help with comprehension Fawkes!
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 04:15:02
November 08 2012 04:14 GMT
#84618
This is the dumbest fucking argument this thread has ever had, and we've had pretty dumb arguments.

I liked it better when no one was posting.

On November 08 2012 12:46 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 12:41 seiferoth10 wrote:
Here come the bad pictures of each others' biases to prove that other biases are ugly and their biases are perfect. Oh KMD...

Need some Jo Kwon spam to counter this obviously.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Goddess

Word.
Murdco
Profile Joined June 2011
United States745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 04:28:36
November 08 2012 04:28 GMT
#84619
dam the thread filled up with dumbassery while I was gone, not even gonna read that

Anyways

Jo moon geun makes his comeback after disappearing from the music scene for 2 years, its k

New Byul came out

Thats the tittle track

Demizzle
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 04:50:11
November 08 2012 04:37 GMT
#84620
On November 08 2012 12:31 andyrau wrote:

jokwon is a diva btw.


I'm not saying he's not a diva, but he matches the Goddess dictionary defined criteria pretty well.

On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote:
Lol, was listening to Arirang a few hours ago cause the 'English section' of EBS was over. Well, what was his previous job? Have to agree on the fact that Jo Kwon's a goddess too


She was a singer. Sort of new. Had a couple of singles and a colab with Crispi Crunch.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DlXgUOm78c

Now she does Sound K 8-10pm KST. She had miss A on the show as special guest on Monday I think. Dunno if this means connexions more or less useful than previous D:
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