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On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote: Well, the problem is that being a goddess or not isn't something which is decided by someone's personal preferences. If you look at the way IU is treated by Korean media, netizens, etc. it's almost undeniable that she's god tier level. The relative amount of haters compared to fans is really low, she has a long list of variety show appearances, many achievements, etc. IU's persona is unique, she is her own 'brand' in a certain way and almost everyone knows her 'brand'. Once you've got the batman symbol thingy going on, you're safe to say that you're talking about at least a high tier person. + Show Spoiler +
It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.
Girls don't need to be chubby to have curves. IU is more or less a board. I do not find that ideal.
Did you miss the picture I posted earlier? If anything is a board...
Which one? The single bad picture of Tiffany that I've ever seen posted? How many times should that come up before people get bored of using it as the one example of why they don't like Tiffany?
On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote: Well, the problem is that being a goddess or not isn't something which is decided by someone's personal preferences. If you look at the way IU is treated by Korean media, netizens, etc. it's almost undeniable that she's god tier level. The relative amount of haters compared to fans is really low, she has a long list of variety show appearances, many achievements, etc. IU's persona is unique, she is her own 'brand' in a certain way and almost everyone knows her 'brand'. Once you've got the batman symbol thingy going on, you're safe to say that you're talking about at least a high tier person.
It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.
On November 08 2012 12:20 Demizzle wrote: IU can't be a goddess. She's aged so badly it's almost comical. Jo Kwon. Now that's a goddess right there. Also fun fact my sister's friend the singer is now the new DJ for Sound K on Arirang. Not sure if career step forward or backwards.
Lol, was listening to Arirang a few hours ago cause the 'English section' of EBS was over. Well, what was his previous job? Have to agree on the fact that Jo Kwon's a goddess too
this is stupid, and not because you quoted batman. that's like saying the queen of england is a goddess because of the way people view her and their corresponding treatment of the person. jokwon is a diva btw.
On November 08 2012 12:01 Kuja wrote: Taeyeon ain't no goddess, she could potentially be an angel but I don't really see her enough as a mature lady to consider a goddess. Still everyone's little sister who some people want to wife. I ain't judging. Not to mention in half her pictures she looks autistic.
On November 08 2012 11:30 Requizen wrote: IU never stood out as goddess material to me. Skilled, yes, but her "idol presence" doesn't feel like anything special and her lack of curves isn't my thing. Cute, talented, but not worth all the perfection praise she gets around here.
I could say the exact same thing about Tiffany, but that's not how biases work. Not to mention these are just about her only curves.
On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote: Well, the problem is that being a goddess or not isn't something which is decided by someone's personal preferences. If you look at the way IU is treated by Korean media, netizens, etc. it's almost undeniable that she's god tier level. The relative amount of haters compared to fans is really low, she has a long list of variety show appearances, many achievements, etc. IU's persona is unique, she is her own 'brand' in a certain way and almost everyone knows her 'brand'. Once you've got the batman symbol thingy going on, you're safe to say that you're talking about at least a high tier person. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J6J5BcHFCs
It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.
Girls don't need to be chubby to have curves. IU is more or less a board. I do not find that ideal.
Did you miss the picture I posted earlier? If anything is a board...
Which one? The single bad picture of Tiffany that I've ever seen posted? How many times should that come up before people get bored of using it as the one example of why they don't like Tiffany?
On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote: Well, the problem is that being a goddess or not isn't something which is decided by someone's personal preferences. If you look at the way IU is treated by Korean media, netizens, etc. it's almost undeniable that she's god tier level. The relative amount of haters compared to fans is really low, she has a long list of variety show appearances, many achievements, etc. IU's persona is unique, she is her own 'brand' in a certain way and almost everyone knows her 'brand'. Once you've got the batman symbol thingy going on, you're safe to say that you're talking about at least a high tier person. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J6J5BcHFCs
It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.
Girls don't need to be chubby to have curves. IU is more or less a board. I do not find that ideal.
Did you miss the picture I posted earlier? If anything is a board...
Which one? The single bad picture of Tiffany that I've ever seen posted? How many times should that come up before people get bored of using it as the one example of why they don't like Tiffany?
Those aren't even that bad for pre-debut pictures. I wish any of the girls at my high school looked half that good at her age. At least they're new. E: Well the one on the far right is pretty bad, I guess, but it just looks like weird shadow angles.
The funny thing is, you're the only one attacking other people's biases because they didn't agree with yours. I didn't even call IU bad, in fact I said she was talented and cute, just not my type. I don't know why you're getting all aggressive about this.
On November 08 2012 12:41 seiferoth10 wrote: Here come the bad pictures of each others' biases to prove that other biases are ugly and their biases are perfect. Oh KMD...
I'm not trying to prove anything about IU, but he specifically said "single bad picture".
On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote: Well, the problem is that being a goddess or not isn't something which is decided by someone's personal preferences. If you look at the way IU is treated by Korean media, netizens, etc. it's almost undeniable that she's god tier level. The relative amount of haters compared to fans is really low, she has a long list of variety show appearances, many achievements, etc. IU's persona is unique, she is her own 'brand' in a certain way and almost everyone knows her 'brand'. Once you've got the batman symbol thingy going on, you're safe to say that you're talking about at least a high tier person. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J6J5BcHFCs
It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.
Girls don't need to be chubby to have curves. IU is more or less a board. I do not find that ideal.
Did you miss the picture I posted earlier? If anything is a board...
Which one? The single bad picture of Tiffany that I've ever seen posted? How many times should that come up before people get bored of using it as the one example of why they don't like Tiffany?
On November 08 2012 12:41 seiferoth10 wrote: Here come the bad pictures of each others' biases to prove that other biases are ugly and their biases are perfect. Oh KMD...
lol you know people are mad when they start digging up all dem old pics.
So far what I have gotten from the replies since my last post is:
1. If Taeyeon looks autistic in half her pictures, damn...I fucking love autistic women. 2. Kuja gets mad if someone disagrees with him. 3. The best way to get back at someone is obviously attempt to insult their bias and post bad pictures of them. 4. @Ness: Last time I checked, calling someone a goddess or not is subjective and changes from person to person.
On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote: It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.
Can you dumb this down for me? Too many negatives for my brain to handle. 5. Apparently you can only call one person a goddess and that is your bias? Not sure how this works. Someone please explain. 6. We already know Jokwon is a goddess.
On November 08 2012 13:00 Fawkes wrote: So far what I have gotten from the replies since my last post is:
1. If Taeyeon looks autistic in half her pictures, damn...I fucking love autistic women. 2. Kuja gets mad if someone disagrees with him. 3. The best way to get back at someone is obviously attempt to insult their bias and post bad pictures of them. 4. @Ness: Last time I checked, calling someone a goddess or not is subjective and changes from person to person.
On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote: It's not because you like chubby girls, Requizen, that IU can't be a goddess. Same for you fawkes, it's not because IU or any other artist isn't in SNSD that she can't be a goddess or placed higher than SNSD members, cause then there wouldn't be any high tier or god tier girls, at most mid tier girls.
Can you dumb this down for me? Too many negatives for my brain to handle. 5. Apparently you can only call one person a goddess and that is your bias? Not sure how this works. Someone please explain. 6. We already know Jokwon is a goddess.
Alright, I'll try to break this down for you fawkes ! Definitions are multifaceted, that being said a word can be used in many ways and not all possible definitions of a word have to be met for one to use that word. There is, by nature, a level of objectivity to definitions, this is adversus solem ne loquitor and I should not have to explain this point any further. Lets take the definition that seeker so gratefully provided and look at it again
god·dess [god-is] Show IPA noun 1. a female god or deity. 2. a woman of extraordinary beauty and charm. 3. a greatly admired or adored woman.
Now, you could aruge any one of these definitions to be true with IU but since you are looking for objectivity I find it would be hard to argue in any way that IU is not "a greatly admired or adored woman." This makes the objective application of the word goddess reasonable.
And how could I be mad when I'm looking at pictures of IU silly
And how, exactly, does "a greatly admired or adored woman" not apply to nearly every idol or famous woman on the face of the planet? Does that make Hilary Clinton a goddess?
On November 08 2012 13:12 Zenithal wrote: And how, exactly, does "a greatly admired or adored woman" not apply to nearly every idol or famous woman on the face of the planet? Does that make Hilary Clinton a goddess?
It could be argued!
Edit: I also agree with Dystopia, this has become very off-topic and shouldn't be discussed anymore in this thread. Feel free to PM me if you need any more help with comprehension Fawkes!
On November 08 2012 12:41 seiferoth10 wrote: Here come the bad pictures of each others' biases to prove that other biases are ugly and their biases are perfect. Oh KMD...
I'm not saying he's not a diva, but he matches the Goddess dictionary defined criteria pretty well.
On November 08 2012 12:21 Nesserev wrote: Lol, was listening to Arirang a few hours ago cause the 'English section' of EBS was over. Well, what was his previous job? Have to agree on the fact that Jo Kwon's a goddess too
She was a singer. Sort of new. Had a couple of singles and a colab with Crispi Crunch. + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DlXgUOm78c
Now she does Sound K 8-10pm KST. She had miss A on the show as special guest on Monday I think. Dunno if this means connexions more or less useful than previous D: