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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 04:32:16
March 06 2014 04:31 GMT
#14141
Maybe it was because he doesn't have any allies who aren't beaten up there to help. Plus maybe Oda is emphasizing that he feels like he is alone because Robin is gone from his memory? As far as he is concerned none of his crewmates are with him and all he has is dwarves who were following him so everything is on him (and they got taken out).
Never Knows Best.
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
March 06 2014 04:34 GMT
#14142
On March 06 2014 11:41 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 11:35 killa_robot wrote:
On March 06 2014 11:00 BlackMagister wrote:
The point sumsar was trying to make was that the dwarfs that went with Usopp were turned into toys so he forgot about them making it seem like he went alone. Obviously he didn't forget about them since he was just recalling them before blaming Franky he even said he would write a book about their bravery. You can also see on this page a lot of dwarfs are not toys yet, though in a previous chapter some were turned into toys.

http://readms.com/r/one_piece/740/2279/21


He forgot the individual dwarves he went with (AKA all his backup), not the entire tribe and their mission. He recalled the ones who weren't turned into toys.

In the page I linked to don't you see that there are dwarfs that were part of his back up weren't turned into toys yet? Sure the dwarfs look a bit silly but they're not toys and he is recalling a conversation with the dwarfs that backed him not at the tribe's home.


No. It seems the implication was they were all turned into toys. I don't see any you could say for sure is still a dwarf and not a toy.
SupaChicken
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia273 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 04:47:04
March 06 2014 04:38 GMT
#14143
Now that I think about it, if he has forgotten Robin, does that mean he's forgotten about Enies Lobby? That was kind of a big turning point for Usopp and if he's forgotten it that would go half-way to explaining why he's running. I still don't like it but at least it would sort of explain it.

On March 06 2014 13:34 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 11:41 BlackMagister wrote:
On March 06 2014 11:35 killa_robot wrote:
On March 06 2014 11:00 BlackMagister wrote:
The point sumsar was trying to make was that the dwarfs that went with Usopp were turned into toys so he forgot about them making it seem like he went alone. Obviously he didn't forget about them since he was just recalling them before blaming Franky he even said he would write a book about their bravery. You can also see on this page a lot of dwarfs are not toys yet, though in a previous chapter some were turned into toys.

http://readms.com/r/one_piece/740/2279/21


He forgot the individual dwarves he went with (AKA all his backup), not the entire tribe and their mission. He recalled the ones who weren't turned into toys.

In the page I linked to don't you see that there are dwarfs that were part of his back up weren't turned into toys yet? Sure the dwarfs look a bit silly but they're not toys and he is recalling a conversation with the dwarfs that backed him not at the tribe's home.


No. It seems the implication was they were all turned into toys. I don't see any you could say for sure is still a dwarf and not a toy.

Really? You don't see any? Not even all the ones that look exactly the same as they did before? Because I can see loads. Leo in particular is given an entire panel.
I need a new quote...
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 05:20:39
March 06 2014 04:59 GMT
#14144
All of Usopp's allies were beaten. Not all the Dwarfs were turned into toys, but the ones that weren't were laying defeated on the ground. Robin got turned into a toy, so he shouldn't even remember her now. It was him, Sugar, and Trebol. And people think hes going to stay and fight. Usopp the Brave who is going to stand up to Trebol by himself after he just watched him chunk a boat into the building he was in. That doesn't sound like the same character who has been talking about running away at the first sign of danger ever since the Dwarfs started idolizing him.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1094 Posts
March 06 2014 05:25 GMT
#14145
On March 06 2014 13:38 SupaChicken wrote:
Now that I think about it, if he has forgotten Robin, does that mean he's forgotten about Enies Lobby? That was kind of a big turning point for Usopp and if he's forgotten it that would go half-way to explaining why he's running. I still don't like it but at least it would sort of explain it.

That would be a pretty cool explanation. Since he can't remember Robin, how much of his memory is gone? Does he remember the little speech Sanji gave him about doing what he can do? If that went away with the loss of Robin, he may have completely reverted back to something he was before because he has lost that growing moment.

If that's the explanation for Usopp's behavior, I'd be quite happy.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 06 2014 07:56 GMT
#14146
I can't remember if this is the case or not, Usopp does know that people turned into toys are forgotten, correct?

Usopp is a smart guy, he's running away right now because that's exactly what Usopp does. However, he's going to put two and two together and realize that one of his crew mates has been turned into a toy. This is going to give him the spark needed to go into bad-ass mode and fight very hard. He's done it before, he can do it again. He's going to fight very hard because he's always fought quite hard for the crew.

The fruit has its limitations. Even if he doesn't know WHO turned into a toy, he knows it's possible that someone turned into a toy. It's a very interesting set up, I'm just curious how he's going to deal with Trevor in the mean time. Perhaps Robin will fight Trevor; she has no contract so she can fight. Though Robin without the DF is going to be.. a tough fight. Hard to say.
maru lover forever
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
March 06 2014 10:17 GMT
#14147
Actually Ussop is pretty scared of the enemy right now. Remember his reaction when he saw how powerful the faeries were ? This time with the faeries dropping so fast. He was shit scared I don't think we can blame him for that.

Just remember we are about to see Usopp pull off another great heist.
this is a quote
betaflame
Profile Joined November 2010
175 Posts
March 06 2014 10:26 GMT
#14148
He's probably going to beat them with some tactical plays, since that's kind of his style, whereas sanji zoro and luffy are fighters.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
March 06 2014 10:37 GMT
#14149
On March 06 2014 19:26 betaflame wrote:
He's probably going to beat them with some tactical plays, since that's kind of his style, whereas sanji zoro and luffy are fighters.

He is not the same with the crazy guys like zoro/luffy that just goes for the brawl.

The only person i remember in one piece so far who faces a massively overpowered enemy without fear is Sakazuki.
this is a quote
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
March 07 2014 07:44 GMT
#14150
i think what people have been saying here makes sense.

ur usopp, you find yourself apparently alone facing 2 incredibly powerful enemies, with 0 reasons to fight them (cuz robin & co got turned into toys), as usopp ofc u gonna run like hell
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
March 08 2014 08:34 GMT
#14151
I thought this power made you forgot everything about the person turned into a toy, why would Ussop forgot everything about his mission since it involved a lot of the dwarves ?
Also why would he forgot about Enies Lobby ? He must've forgotten why he went there but thats about it
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
March 08 2014 14:24 GMT
#14152
So.. I've been wondering about this for a little bit.

If Usopp got turned into a toy and forgotten, would everyone then also forget about Sogeking? What about Luffy and Chopper who never realized Usopp was Sogeking would they then still remeber Sogeking but not Usopp?
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 08 2014 14:48 GMT
#14153
On March 08 2014 23:24 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
So.. I've been wondering about this for a little bit.

If Usopp got turned into a toy and forgotten, would everyone then also forget about Sogeking? What about Luffy and Chopper who never realized Usopp was Sogeking would they then still remeber Sogeking but not Usopp?


mind = blown

maybe they would forget about sogeking but since they aren't thinking about him anyway they would be none the wiser once usopp comes back
maru lover forever
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
March 08 2014 17:44 GMT
#14154
On March 08 2014 23:48 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 23:24 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
So.. I've been wondering about this for a little bit.

If Usopp got turned into a toy and forgotten, would everyone then also forget about Sogeking? What about Luffy and Chopper who never realized Usopp was Sogeking would they then still remeber Sogeking but not Usopp?


mind = blown

maybe they would forget about sogeking but since they aren't thinking about him anyway they would be none the wiser once usopp comes back

Hmm then what if the reverse happens. Usopp changes into Sogeking, turns around to fight and gets turned into a toy. Would Luffy and Chopper remember Usopp? Because technically it was Sogeking that turned into a toy?
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 08 2014 18:16 GMT
#14155
On March 09 2014 02:44 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 23:48 Incognoto wrote:
On March 08 2014 23:24 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
So.. I've been wondering about this for a little bit.

If Usopp got turned into a toy and forgotten, would everyone then also forget about Sogeking? What about Luffy and Chopper who never realized Usopp was Sogeking would they then still remeber Sogeking but not Usopp?


mind = blown

maybe they would forget about sogeking but since they aren't thinking about him anyway they would be none the wiser once usopp comes back

Hmm then what if the reverse happens. Usopp changes into Sogeking, turns around to fight and gets turned into a toy. Would Luffy and Chopper remember Usopp? Because technically it was Sogeking that turned into a toy?

i doubt the ability is fooled that easily, whoever gets turned into a toy is completely forgotten about so noone would remember Sogeking or Usopp
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
March 08 2014 19:10 GMT
#14156
On March 08 2014 23:24 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
So.. I've been wondering about this for a little bit.

If Usopp got turned into a toy and forgotten, would everyone then also forget about Sogeking? What about Luffy and Chopper who never realized Usopp was Sogeking would they then still remeber Sogeking but not Usopp?

What about Cavendish/Hakuba?
you no take candle
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
March 08 2014 20:00 GMT
#14157
Just had a thought.
We all know that Luffy isn't very patient. I think he's gonna jump in and fight mingo before. He gets caught by the strings somehow and then cronos jumps in. (having just been detoyed + Show Spoiler +
Yes I made up a new word
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Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 20:45:27
March 08 2014 20:44 GMT
#14158
On March 09 2014 04:10 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 23:24 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
So.. I've been wondering about this for a little bit.

If Usopp got turned into a toy and forgotten, would everyone then also forget about Sogeking? What about Luffy and Chopper who never realized Usopp was Sogeking would they then still remeber Sogeking but not Usopp?

What about Cavendish/Hakuba?

Most likely Hakuba will just be remembered as a folk legend, the same way curos the legendary gladiator is now supposedly an ideal fighter invented by the prisoners.



"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 09 2014 04:40 GMT
#14159
On March 09 2014 05:44 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 04:10 sc2holar wrote:
On March 08 2014 23:24 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
So.. I've been wondering about this for a little bit.

If Usopp got turned into a toy and forgotten, would everyone then also forget about Sogeking? What about Luffy and Chopper who never realized Usopp was Sogeking would they then still remeber Sogeking but not Usopp?

What about Cavendish/Hakuba?

Most likely Hakuba will just be remembered as a folk legend, the same way curos the legendary gladiator is now supposedly an ideal fighter invented by the prisoners.




people remember Curos probably because the statue was still there and there were stories, so tehy dont actually remember him jsut heard about him

like if luffy got toy'd storys would probably spring up about a legendary pirate who destroyed enes lobbies and broke into and out of impel down
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
March 10 2014 07:23 GMT
#14160
I think they will just forgot the person, but not the stuff he did.

It's like substituting ever instance of that person's name with "someone".
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
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