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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 23 2013 20:45 GMT
#11821
I think second commander is just that he's commander of the second division, not that he's n°2 or anything.
maru lover forever
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 21:44:54
December 23 2013 21:02 GMT
#11822
Ace was top 4 of the Whitebeard crew with fucking ease( Who all 4 of which we have seen could each deal equally with the admirals). We never got to see Ace at his true potential. Vs BB he was against all odds and against the "Strongest Devil Fruit" ever. When ace was fucked and exhausted he could counter Akojji (an Admiral) and sort of hold his own vs Sakazuki until he took the blow meant for luffy. Though Ace may not seem the shit he is definantly worth his place as the secound division commander of the strongest crew in existence (Before Whitebeards death) aswell as a fucking POWERHOUSE of the New World.

BB could fight WB at an admiral ish level at Marineford. Ace could fight equally with BB(from what we were shown). BB was by no means a fucking weakling at any point. The fact that BB could appear at Admiral level vs WB speaks volumes for Aces' power. Oh and by Admiral level I mean he took a similar beating to Sakazuki when he vs'd Whitebeard. If you think Ace was weak even by the state the story is now holy shit I don't know what is wrong with you.
Afmug
Profile Joined December 2010
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 21:34:20
December 23 2013 21:34 GMT
#11823
On December 24 2013 05:45 Incognoto wrote:
I think second commander is just that he's commander of the second division, not that he's n°2 or anything.

no, you're right. you know that guy that we saw on that one page during the marineford arc, that insignificant guy that just died in the war? yea, that guy is number two in the whitebeard crew. thats why he got absolutely no screentime, because that makes sense. also whitebeard totally risked the equaltiy of power in the entire world just so save some inisgnificant character on his ship, which just happened to be luffys brother.

am i the only one who seriously cant believe how fucking stupid people are reading this manga?

EDIT: just read what shark wrote for fucks sake.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 23 2013 22:53 GMT
#11824
Because marco and vista and whatnot aren't also the shit? I never said Ace was weak?

I'm not even going to argue; there's no reason to get all nasty like you are. grow up lol
maru lover forever
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 23 2013 22:58 GMT
#11825
On December 24 2013 06:34 Afmug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 05:45 Incognoto wrote:
I think second commander is just that he's commander of the second division, not that he's n°2 or anything.

no, you're right. you know that guy that we saw on that one page during the marineford arc, that insignificant guy that just died in the war? yea, that guy is number two in the whitebeard crew. thats why he got absolutely no screentime, because that makes sense. also whitebeard totally risked the equaltiy of power in the entire world just so save some inisgnificant character on his ship, which just happened to be luffys brother.

am i the only one who seriously cant believe how fucking stupid people are reading this manga?

EDIT: just read what shark wrote for fucks sake.


What Stark wrote was correct, what you wrote wasn't and maybe you should use a different tone and people wouldn't think of you as an idiot. And yes apparently you are one one of those "fucking stupid" people reading this manga because if you belonged to the smart people reading it you would know that Ace joined the Crew and the position of Commander of the 2nd Division happened to be open. Nowhere was is it said that he was the definitive Number 2 of the whole crew and that
Ace>>>Jozu, Thatch, Vista.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
December 23 2013 23:27 GMT
#11826
On December 24 2013 06:34 Afmug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 05:45 Incognoto wrote:
I think second commander is just that he's commander of the second division, not that he's n°2 or anything.

no, you're right. you know that guy that we saw on that one page during the marineford arc, that insignificant guy that just died in the war? yea, that guy is number two in the whitebeard crew. thats why he got absolutely no screentime, because that makes sense. also whitebeard totally risked the equaltiy of power in the entire world just so save some inisgnificant character on his ship, which just happened to be luffys brother.

am i the only one who seriously cant believe how fucking stupid people are reading this manga?

EDIT: just read what shark wrote for fucks sake.


Are you kidding? If you're going to flip a fucking table over how bad peoples reading comprehension skills are you should at least pretend to read at a kindergarten level.
Afmug
Profile Joined December 2010
58 Posts
December 23 2013 23:40 GMT
#11827
On December 24 2013 07:58 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 06:34 Afmug wrote:
On December 24 2013 05:45 Incognoto wrote:
I think second commander is just that he's commander of the second division, not that he's n°2 or anything.

no, you're right. you know that guy that we saw on that one page during the marineford arc, that insignificant guy that just died in the war? yea, that guy is number two in the whitebeard crew. thats why he got absolutely no screentime, because that makes sense. also whitebeard totally risked the equaltiy of power in the entire world just so save some inisgnificant character on his ship, which just happened to be luffys brother.

am i the only one who seriously cant believe how fucking stupid people are reading this manga?

EDIT: just read what shark wrote for fucks sake.


What Stark wrote was correct, what you wrote wasn't and maybe you should use a different tone and people wouldn't think of you as an idiot. And yes apparently you are one one of those "fucking stupid" people reading this manga because if you belonged to the smart people reading it you would know that Ace joined the Crew and the position of Commander of the 2nd Division happened to be open. Nowhere was is it said that he was the definitive Number 2 of the whole crew and that
Ace>>>Jozu, Thatch, Vista.

apparently, you did not read my post either. i never stated that the second commander of the whitebeard crew is the second strongest person in the whitebeard crew. go on. read it again. my point was that a fucking scrub does NOT belong in a commander position in whitebeards crew.

i followed this thread for 100 pages now and i am so tired of the shit that sometimes goes on in this thread. people were telling eachother that armament haki couldnt be transferred to weapons, when there was clear proof of this in the manga, written and drawn by oda, and now people are telling me that luffy wont recruit jinbe because he is higher bounty than him, and that the fact that he never recruited anyone with a higher bounty before is proof? stupid shit pisses me the fuck off, and people are, in fact, being stupid. try reason, it wont work. so crucify me for being right.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 23 2013 23:45 GMT
#11828
Oh yeah, well Oda never said that Ace wasn't a scrub. Plus, even if he did, Oda is wrong. Enel would just stomp him anyway, since he would just fly his space ship into orbit and then rain lightning strikes down on everyone.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
December 24 2013 02:39 GMT
#11829
As far as I can remember you've contributed to "the shit" yourself Afmug, starting with you wanting to discuss Zoro.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
December 24 2013 03:28 GMT
#11830
He has a point... just because it never happened before in one piece doesn't mean it won't in the future... I think it's possible that luffy could recruit someone with a higher bounty than him in the future but surpass it

I for one believe the theory that jinbe will die though
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
December 24 2013 03:51 GMT
#11831
On December 24 2013 12:28 saltywet wrote:
He has a point... just because it never happened before in one piece doesn't mean it won't in the future... I think it's possible that luffy could recruit someone with a higher bounty than him in the future but surpass it

I for one believe the theory that jinbe will die though

hes got like the biggest death flag ever hes doomed

even in best case scenario he gets like crippled or something and babysits fishman island
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
December 24 2013 04:06 GMT
#11832
I am pretty sure Jinbei will end up dying right after joining the Straw Hats. My prediction is that he will join and they will immediately be attacked by Enel. Luffy, for whatever reason, is incapacitated (maybe he gets a heart virus like Goku did) and so Jinbei decides to take on Enel. Of course, Enel is probably the strongest guy in One Piece so Jinbei doesn't stand a chance and he knows it. Thus, he decides to sacrifice himself in order to weaken Enel enough to cause his retreat.

Will probably end with some line about how he failed to protect Ace and he won't make the same mistake with Luffy.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 24 2013 04:34 GMT
#11833
On December 24 2013 13:06 Serejai wrote:
I am pretty sure Jinbei will end up dying right after joining the Straw Hats. My prediction is that he will join and they will immediately be attacked by Enel. Luffy, for whatever reason, is incapacitated (maybe he gets a heart virus like Goku did) and so Jinbei decides to take on Enel. Of course, Enel is probably the strongest guy in One Piece so Jinbei doesn't stand a chance and he knows it. Thus, he decides to sacrifice himself in order to weaken Enel enough to cause his retreat.

Will probably end with some line about how he failed to protect Ace and he won't make the same mistake with Luffy.

seems like the best scenario i've read so far
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
December 24 2013 05:26 GMT
#11834
I just started buying OP volumes starting at 1 and why the hell is Zoro spelled Zolo in these volumes T_T so annoying/distracting every time I see it =\
Never Knows Best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 24 2013 05:28 GMT
#11835
On December 24 2013 14:26 Slaughter wrote:
I just started buying OP volumes starting at 1 and why the hell is Zoro spelled Zolo in these volumes T_T so annoying/distracting every time I see it =\

Not entirely sure about the localized manga, but Zoro was localized as "Zolo" in the 4kids dub. 4kids had a lot of stupid changes to names like that, like changing Smoker to "Chaser" or something.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 05:31:08
December 24 2013 05:30 GMT
#11836
On December 24 2013 14:28 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 14:26 Slaughter wrote:
I just started buying OP volumes starting at 1 and why the hell is Zoro spelled Zolo in these volumes T_T so annoying/distracting every time I see it =\

Not entirely sure about the localized manga, but Zoro was localized as "Zolo" in the 4kids dub. 4kids had a lot of stupid changes to names like that, like changing Smoker to "Chaser" or something.


Yea just looked up his misc info under his wiki. Looks like a lot of the various media agencies have switched back and forth between Zorro, Zoro, and Zolo. Even the Viz version I have has been changed back and forth depending on the printing its in.
Never Knows Best.
Afmug
Profile Joined December 2010
58 Posts
December 24 2013 11:31 GMT
#11837
On December 24 2013 08:45 Sentenal wrote:
Oh yeah, well Oda never said that Ace wasn't a scrub. Plus, even if he did, Oda is wrong. Enel would just stomp him anyway, since he would just fly his space ship into orbit and then rain lightning strikes down on everyone.

this jsut goes to show how right i am.
On December 24 2013 11:39 sumsaR wrote:
As far as I can remember you've contributed to "the shit" yourself Afmug, starting with you wanting to discuss Zoro.

yes, that was me, and yes, that was stupid. my eyes are now wide open.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2279 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 11:37:16
December 24 2013 11:36 GMT
#11838
On December 24 2013 20:31 Afmug wrote:
this jsut goes to show how right i am.

Damn, son, most of the shit said in this thread is just humour.
And Ace being 2nd commander has nothing to do with him being the 2nd strongest in the crew (or third if you count Whitebeard). Sure, he's hella strong, to be a commander, but Oda never says anything about power levels anyway. And I'm pretty sure Whitebeard would have gone full war even to save a scrub, as long as he considers him family, a bit like Luffy did to save his nakama Robin.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 24 2013 11:53 GMT
#11839
Afmug you're clearly not capable of discussing things on an internet forum if "stupid shit" pisses you off so much.

Whether or not people are wrong or right doesn't mean you can't discuss things without being an asshole. Your reading comprehension is also somewhat lacking.
maru lover forever
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
December 24 2013 12:35 GMT
#11840
So about them power levels... So Ace fought BB and lost pre-marineford. Then BB gets the earthquake fruit and runs away. Sakazuki then shows up later in a boat and BB along with his crew says "I can't deal with this guy right now" even though he got his crew with him; BB + crew can't deal with a single admiral even after his massive power-up from Whitebeards fruit. And Ace lost to him pre power-up in a 1on1. This to me clearly proves that Ace wasn't close to being up there with the big guys as far as anything can be proved in a shounen manga anyhow. We however don't really know anything about the other WB guys so they might be as "weak" as Ace.

This in my view clearly demonstrates not only the overwhelming power of admirals and that only emperors themselves could stand up to them, not people like Marco or other minor characters as they would stomped by admirals fighting seriously.
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