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miked4o7
Profile Joined January 2013
United States33 Posts
June 04 2016 03:11 GMT
#161
BULBA Clock!! fuck yes!
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
June 04 2016 03:12 GMT
#162
Bulbu clockwerk ::O
Getting too old for this..
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
June 04 2016 03:12 GMT
#163
On June 04 2016 12:10 Elurie wrote:
AM kept following Spectre around like he's some horny teenager.

"Can I tell you the good news about why magic is evil?"
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
June 04 2016 03:12 GMT
#164
oh wow sand king
long time no see
-Terran-
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
June 04 2016 03:13 GMT
#165
On June 04 2016 12:10 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 12:09 blobrus wrote:
Eg actually pulling out a new (for them) draft, I like.

wait is this new? I've seen Aui and Bulba play these heroes before.


I don't think EGs ran anything like disruptor sk support duo recently, at least this is surprising to me.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 04 2016 03:13 GMT
#166
On June 04 2016 12:07 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 12:05 DucK- wrote:
On June 04 2016 12:02 Sloke wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:59 DucK- wrote:
18-1-6 invoker. Exactly why MVP loss.

Maybe was really unstoppable this game. But LGD as a whole really showed up and MVP seemed overconfident in a lot of fights and when they slowed it down a bit LGD was already way ahead.


I would say mvp was confident in fights but then they were facing invoker.

I feel a lot of the loss was on the draft. I'd even say MVP was doing fine in terms of sheer teamplay versus LGD, but fighting against a Gyro, Invoker and Tide with melee cores is never a fun situation. That and DuBu not being very confident on a Doom 4 when he's typically the aggressive 5.


Yep. Need to doom both tide and invoker to win any fights cleanly. Or if naix is fat enough, rage OW kill tide and doom invoker. But smart force staff by xiao8 though.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-04 03:16:25
June 04 2016 03:13 GMT
#167
On June 04 2016 12:05 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 12:04 Dracolich70 wrote:
On June 04 2016 12:03 Azarkon wrote:
On June 04 2016 12:01 Dracolich70 wrote:
On June 04 2016 11:57 Azarkon wrote:
VGR loses, while Xiao8's team wins. Similar to the first day, the new Chinese teams have become shit.

What does this say?
That things you said earlier that the new blood was the good thing, and the old blood were bad is reversed currently?


Yes, and that is BAD for China. You can't hold on the old.
Like Fear, he can pass on the legacy.


It actually shows the old players, in terms of experience, aren't doing that.
September and Aggressif are fairly new players. The fact that many of the big organisations has several poaching grounds, does seem like they interact internally.
LiangHao
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
June 04 2016 03:13 GMT
#168
On June 04 2016 12:12 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 12:10 Elurie wrote:
AM kept following Spectre around like he's some horny teenager.

"Can I tell you the good news about why magic is evil?"

this should be a meme
-Terran-
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 04 2016 03:13 GMT
#169
On June 04 2016 12:12 Vertical wrote:
oh wow sand king
long time no see


DC picks SK for moo very often.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 04 2016 03:14 GMT
#170
On June 04 2016 12:13 blobrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 12:10 Kuroeeah wrote:
On June 04 2016 12:09 blobrus wrote:
Eg actually pulling out a new (for them) draft, I like.

wait is this new? I've seen Aui and Bulba play these heroes before.


I don't think EGs ran anything like disruptor sk support duo recently, at least this is surprising to me.


They haven't used Sand King since I think Starladder 13.

But ppd plays Disruptor a bit.

Still, EG is feeling comfortable.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
June 04 2016 03:14 GMT
#171
On June 04 2016 12:13 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 12:12 Vertical wrote:
oh wow sand king
long time no see


DC picks SK for moo very often.

ah ok
sorry didnt watch any online qualifiers
-Terran-
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
June 04 2016 03:15 GMT
#172
On June 04 2016 12:07 Azarkon wrote:
New players are the way to go, as we have seen every time in Western teams - just look at which Western teams are at the top today. This doesn't change. What might change is whether China's move for new players is actually a success; it could be that they fail, and then when their old players go, the entire region goes.


I think a mix of old and new is the best. Classic EG/sadboys was a mix of old veterans and new talent.

The new Navi has a mix of newer talents, and old school Veterans. Same with Liquid.

Just have to find the right mix of players.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 04 2016 03:15 GMT
#173
Okay, I'm laughing far, far too hard about the Spike vs Spike trading.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
June 04 2016 03:16 GMT
#174
On June 04 2016 12:02 Sloke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:59 DucK- wrote:
18-1-6 invoker. Exactly why MVP loss.

Maybe was really unstoppable this game. But LGD as a whole really showed up and MVP seemed overconfident in a lot of fights and when they slowed it down a bit LGD was already way ahead.


MVP as a team live and die by their execution.

I personally don't think they can do it... now that China started practicing. The peak and caliber of players on LGD are so much higher and xiao8 is not going to let MVP script.
Rillanon.au
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
June 04 2016 03:16 GMT
#175
Watching mushi play kunnka was such a treat. He has such a fine grip on the hero without playing for a long time too.
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-04 03:17:54
June 04 2016 03:17 GMT
#176
oh, I think Loda dodged the stun by using BKB or with his sidestep oO

He could have picked up the Aegis I think?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
June 04 2016 03:17 GMT
#177
On June 04 2016 12:15 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 12:07 Azarkon wrote:
New players are the way to go, as we have seen every time in Western teams - just look at which Western teams are at the top today. This doesn't change. What might change is whether China's move for new players is actually a success; it could be that they fail, and then when their old players go, the entire region goes.


I think a mix of old and new is the best. Classic EG/sadboys was a mix of old veterans and new talent.

The new Navi has a mix of newer talents, and old school Veterans. Same with Liquid.

Just have to find the right mix of players.
That has always been the winning formula in any sport.
LiangHao
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-04 03:19:44
June 04 2016 03:18 GMT
#178
Phoenix topping the pick rate (with BM, DK, DS) with only 33% winrate
while BM 100% Ban/Pick rate
while DP have 4 picks with 100% win rate
-Terran-
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
June 04 2016 03:18 GMT
#179
Some quick predictions and thoughts.

I don't know if anyone else agrees but I am very interested in Fnatic more so than Liquid in Group C, I think this should be their major to shine because they've been looking really solid coming up to the major and I think they'll overcome their LAN jitters. I think Fnatic might upset Liquid in the group.

MVP Phoenix has been on a terrible slump. Online obviously means less to them playing on high ping and I hope i'm wrong but they look like a team that's on the very edge of running out of steam in general. EG should have a relatively easy time in D.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
June 04 2016 03:21 GMT
#180
On June 04 2016 11:53 Shaella wrote:
these charlie re-tweets are amazing


Did I miss something dank?
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