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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
June 03 2016 11:02 GMT
#1201
On June 03 2016 20:00 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 19:58 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Why the hell would you haunt in there when lasso hasn't been used? You just committed suicide.


Because Wings is tilted after that laning stage went so terribly.

They managed to lose a game they really shouldn't have by messing up what they're best at.

And it looks like Secret pretty much has this in the bag, but this draft was still really weak and required everyone to play extremely clean.

That's not entirely fair, Secret outplayed them pretty hard in the first couple minutes--the level 1 gank, Bat breaking Bane's clarity which allowed him to dive and kill Spectre early, Tide was shut out of his lane. Granted, you can argue that the latter two were Wings' fault (Bane used his mana to steal the rune, Tide went somewhat greedy items assuming a weaker lane with Wisp mid)
rip
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2073 Posts
June 03 2016 11:03 GMT
#1202
OG earthshaker always delivers no matter who plays it...
Oppa feeding style
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 03 2016 11:03 GMT
#1203
On June 03 2016 20:01 nayumi wrote:
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On June 03 2016 19:53 CrazyBirdman wrote:
I don't really know why they always give DP the Aegis. Isn't she really bad with it since she respawns without ult?

Sven at least can hit people afterwards.

DP is the front line of the team with exorcism. And Wings don't really want to unload everything on her because there's still that threat of Sven with ult and blink that can wreck havoc.

Sven without Bkb or wisp can be easily kited, shackled, slept .etc so his 2nd life is not that valuable, at least during this phase of the game. Ultra late might be different though with more damage items.


Also Sven has IO to save him the vast majority of the time if he needs it. If DP gets caught and wastes the aegis he can suicide. They're both bad aegis carriers but DP is the better one.
LiquidDota Staff
zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
June 03 2016 11:05 GMT
#1204
Cant watch because of poor conection in my part.Did secret win a game?
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 03 2016 11:05 GMT
#1205
On June 03 2016 20:05 zolasell wrote:
Cant watch because of poor conection in my part.Did secret win a game?


Secret is back baby!
LiquidDota Staff
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 03 2016 11:09 GMT
#1206
On June 03 2016 20:05 zolasell wrote:
Cant watch because of poor conection in my part.Did secret win a game?


Yes. Some nice outplays (that we haven't really seen since this team formed) in the laning stage and snowballed.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
June 03 2016 11:10 GMT
#1207
lol wings has to have one of the worst uniform among all teams... like just grab 5 identical grey shirts from Target just slap team names on them ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
June 03 2016 11:11 GMT
#1208
Suddenly ppy is a genius again lol
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 03 2016 11:12 GMT
#1209
Wings, secret and OG two bo1s away from elimination, that's a surprise.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
June 03 2016 11:12 GMT
#1210
On June 03 2016 20:10 nayumi wrote:
lol wings has to have one of the worst uniform among all teams... like just grab 5 identical grey shirts from Target just slap team names on them ...


Nothing beats the Speed Gaming t-shirts. never forget
The Purgatory of Endless Depths
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
June 03 2016 11:12 GMT
#1211
On June 03 2016 20:11 FreakyDroid wrote:
Suddenly ppy is a genius again lol
They want Secret to be a success, and he has to be, to get this to work better, but at the end of the day, it will still mean 1 or 2 players will not play to their strengths.
LiangHao
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
June 03 2016 11:14 GMT
#1212
On June 03 2016 20:12 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 20:11 FreakyDroid wrote:
Suddenly ppy is a genius again lol
They want Secret to be a success, and he has to be, to get this to work better, but at the end of the day, it will still mean 1 or 2 players will not play to their strengths.


Well yeah ok, I can understand why they want Secret to perform well, but putting ppy on a pedestal after countless of bad plays and drafts from him is just stupid.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
June 03 2016 11:17 GMT
#1213
On June 03 2016 20:14 FreakyDroid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 20:12 Dracolich70 wrote:
On June 03 2016 20:11 FreakyDroid wrote:
Suddenly ppy is a genius again lol
They want Secret to be a success, and he has to be, to get this to work better, but at the end of the day, it will still mean 1 or 2 players will not play to their strengths.


Well yeah ok, I can understand why they want Secret to perform well, but putting ppy on a pedestal after countless of bad plays and drafts from him is just stupid.
Swinging like a pendulum is common place nowadays.
LiangHao
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
June 03 2016 11:18 GMT
#1214
On June 03 2016 20:05 zolasell wrote:
Cant watch because of poor conection in my part.Did secret win a game?

I'm "watching" this:
http://www.trackdota.com/matches/2409398145
There can only be one Geisterkarle
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
June 03 2016 11:18 GMT
#1215
On June 03 2016 20:14 FreakyDroid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 20:12 Dracolich70 wrote:
On June 03 2016 20:11 FreakyDroid wrote:
Suddenly ppy is a genius again lol
They want Secret to be a success, and he has to be, to get this to work better, but at the end of the day, it will still mean 1 or 2 players will not play to their strengths.


Well yeah ok, I can understand why they want Secret to perform well, but putting ppy on a pedestal after countless of bad plays and drafts from him is just stupid.


Most of the casters and the community just echo what other people say, and those are the voices we usually hear.
The Purgatory of Endless Depths
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
June 03 2016 11:20 GMT
#1216
On June 03 2016 20:12 nojok wrote:
Wings, secret and OG two bo1s away from elimination, that's a surprise.

Noone gets eliminated tho... Just lower bracket.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 03 2016 11:21 GMT
#1217
On June 03 2016 20:20 Atoissen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 20:12 nojok wrote:
Wings, secret and OG two bo1s away from elimination, that's a surprise.

Noone gets eliminated tho... Just lower bracket.

That's why I wrote two bo1s and not just one.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
parano1d_
Profile Joined August 2015
Cyprus278 Posts
June 03 2016 11:21 GMT
#1218
On June 03 2016 20:20 Atoissen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 20:12 nojok wrote:
Wings, secret and OG two bo1s away from elimination, that's a surprise.

Noone gets eliminated tho... Just lower bracket.


That's why he said two bo1s. If they lose here (1 bo1) they are at lower bracket bo1
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 03 2016 11:22 GMT
#1219
On June 03 2016 20:20 Atoissen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 20:12 nojok wrote:
Wings, secret and OG two bo1s away from elimination, that's a surprise.

Noone gets eliminated tho... Just lower bracket.


The lower bracket round 1 is BO1. Being game 3 of this series, this series is effectively a BO1. So they are essentially 2 BO1's from elimination.
LiquidDota Staff
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
June 03 2016 11:25 GMT
#1220
On June 03 2016 20:22 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 20:20 Atoissen wrote:
On June 03 2016 20:12 nojok wrote:
Wings, secret and OG two bo1s away from elimination, that's a surprise.

Noone gets eliminated tho... Just lower bracket.


The lower bracket round 1 is BO1. Being game 3 of this series, this series is effectively a BO1. So they are essentially 2 BO1's from elimination.
But it is not super surprising, as everyone knew that every team are pretty close and with the GSL format, anyone can beat anyone.
LiangHao
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