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Obamarauder
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On June 05 2016 14:12 CuSToM wrote: did they say in maybe an interview or something what the idea with the helm of the dominators was about? Its basically everyone gets a HoD and dominates a mega creep every 60 seconds, then put helm back at stack or fountain. | ||
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Febby's story, waowwww | ||
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ez 50k | ||
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Asjo
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Meanwhile, of course, they were able to win by forcing fights on their term and through excellently coordinated aggression. It seems like MVP were much more focused on maximizing their damage and leaving no enemies alive, whereas EG were much more defensively minded, wanting to escape the fight with a few pick-offs and no deaths. I guess this explains why we cannot trust MVP to finish on top of tournaments all the time. They need their aggressive momentum to take roots and won't do as well if people are able to anticipate their play despite its unpredictable nature. Oh well, maybe I should watch a few more of their recent tournaments before drawing any conclusions. I guess I just wanted to add .. I think I understand now  | ||
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Taf the Ghost
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The MVP.P vs EG Finals though, aside from blowing up the scene as a result, also set off a trend that we've been seeing the response to ever since. At multiple points, EG thought they were able to disengage with either a draw or minor team-fight victory, but MVP.P's super aggressive reengaging couldn't be punished. This turned fights that should have been 0-1 or 0-2 losses into 3-1 or 4-2-type victories. While the Meta helped for that (with a whole lot of sustain-based strategies), what everyone started to do was massively over teleport in. 3-man ganks at T1s now see the entire other team teleporting in. MVP.P is always a great watch, but unless the meta breaks there way, they're fighting for 5th/6th. The top-teams can play the balanced approach that terribly punishes the way they play. Though even them getting beaten is normally entertaining. They'll keep throwing bodies at fights, even when they've pretty clearly lost. Though they also managed to turn around some all-but-lost games, as well. | ||
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nanaoei
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if you want to see them losing in more recent games, they were diffused by LGD twice, and beaten soundly by OG at manila major. aside from that, they haven't played many officials so it's really hard to say where they're at. i watch their pubs and they play quite a bit on occaision. pubs are very different for these kinds of players but you start to notice little decision making things and mechanical mistakes. also, heroes, nuances, etc. Forev for example is pretty different from most offlaners. he's pretty solid, plays a lot with his teammates, very concise. will not farm if there are kills on the map. QO makes heavy commitments as well as unique ganks with his heroes, even including naga siren which he plays quite often. you have to watch it to believe it, but all of their players are so quick on their decisions and seemingly try not to let a kill opportunity ever slip. live and die by the sword. | ||
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Birdie
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bourne117
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On August 06 2016 22:12 PhoenixVoid wrote: OG in upper bracket again welp. Unless they improved their game against them I'm not so sure an upper bracket run is happening. But I do think MVP can do well in lower bracket as long as they have composure in the first game, which is where they struggled with in group stages. I have faith. People can say OG has them figured out or something but it was 2 games and MVP looked uncharacteristically sloppy. Like they were just missing plays that MVP normally thrives on making. Plus MVP has in the past come back against opponents who people have said "figured out their style". People were saying liquid and eg figured them out at shanghai. Since them they have gone 3-1 or better against the same teams. If mvp show up og should be very worried imo because when mvp plays their best I don't think any team can beat them. | ||
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