EPTMVP Phoenix Discussion - Page 10
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Tephus
Cascadia1753 Posts
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Asjo
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On August 29 2015 05:59 Asjo wrote: I don't think losing NutZ is terrible for the team, but losing Kpii is quite a blow. He impressed me in the wildcard qualifier and some of the TI matches. But they got MP, who seemed to be the best player on HOT6ix after Forev, so it's a decent consolidation. I really want to see more from MVP. Their results at TI might not have been convincing, but a lot of the time their play was really good. Both Korean teams feel through in a few really bad situations, but put up a good fight the rest of the time. Definitely some potential in that - would be particularly cool if they could steal away some talent from the LoL scene. Kpii and impressed??? I can't remember how many times I face palmed when watching him play, especially naga. Anyway the current lineup is as close to a dream team as you can get. Problem is that I don't think MP and QO should be in the same team because of conflicting roles. Also lacking forev. | ||
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Asjo
Denmark664 Posts
On August 29 2015 08:16 DucK- wrote: Kpii and impressed??? I can't remember how many times I face palmed when watching him play, especially naga. Anyway the current lineup is as close to a dream team as you can get. Problem is that I don't think MP and QO should be in the same team because of conflicting roles. Also lacking forev. Well, I didn't rewatch all the matches before making that comment, but I just remember him for several clutch moments. Might have had his share of misplays as well. Yeah, MP and QO came off very similar when I was watching the two MVP teams. Will be interesting to see what they make of it. | ||
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Asjo
Denmark664 Posts
On August 29 2015 09:03 Asjo wrote: Well, I didn't rewatch all the matches before making that comment, but I just remember him for several clutch moments. Might have had his share of misplays as well. Yeah, MP and QO came off very similar when I was watching the two MVP teams. Will be interesting to see what they make of it. I am yet to watch the last 20% of matches for TI5, but I just watch MVP.Phoenix vs iG, and I have to say that your general sentiment about kpii was quite fitting in game one. At least it was hard to recognize him. So many bad decisions in that match. | ||
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herokiller_
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
On September 02 2015 18:39 herokiller_ wrote: didn't March say he was going to retire after TI5? he has time to play one or two majors before his military service | ||
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Birdie
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ahswtini
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Asjo
Denmark664 Posts
I almost thought that MVP was looking at another stable period with good results. Result-wise, they did quite well at Game Show Global eSports Cup with an improvised line-up. And they seemed to be beating the best SEA teams again. However, once again, they have become very unreliable, and just don't seem like a convincing well-rounded team the way their TI5 line-up did. I have only watched a few games of their recently, and the players seemed to play alright individually, but the team's play seemed to lack intelligence and purpose. Because of this, they only looking good when they were playing at a comfortable lead or when they were taking small skirmishes and not being pushed or pressured. Since I couldn't watch all the matches, I was reading up on what other people said, and what I notice it that people keep pointing out the countless mistakes MVP make. So, this leaves me quite curious of how they will do at Shanghai Major. I fear that I might look too much into these online matches and perhaps underestimate the other SEA teams. I might be blindly ruling out a good LAN-performance from MVP. What do you guys think? Is MVP a strong team at the moment? Do they lack a good captain? How do you rate DuBu? I haven't watched him play much. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On February 25 2016 07:46 Birdie wrote: MP got 8k And MVP got game 1. :D | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
and MVP got day 1 | ||
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chairs
Singapore120 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
On February 25 2016 21:58 DucK- wrote: Kinda gifted 4 games with how their opponents drafted. lol, yeah sure. plz stop making excuses for ehome and secret. mvp outplayed them both... | ||
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Coolsnow7
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On February 26 2016 01:57 hunter_x wrote: lol, yeah sure. plz stop making excuses for ehome and secret. mvp outplayed them both... You have to acknowledge that it's hard to just draw that conclusion at face value. No one expected that to happen going into this tournament. Moreover I don't think an outdraft necessarily takes anything away from MVP at all. Its a part of the game like everything that happens post draft. Finally, you have to acknowledge that EHOME's draft was... let's call it unorthodox in both games. Sure, MVP's was as well to an extent, but again, it's really hard to accept at face value that a draft that included Lifestealer, Phoenix, etc. didn't have anything to do with EHOME's loss. Similarly, I think Secret got completely blown away by that safelane Lesh maxing edict - that was pretty nuts, but EXTREMELY effective against the SB that was guaranteed to be out of lane more often than not, especially combined with the NP. I actually thought that Secret outplayed MVP midway through game 2, but were just too far behind by the extremely fast push for it to make a difference. By the time they started turning around the MVP push, they were like 7k gold behind due to losing most of their outer towers. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On February 26 2016 01:57 hunter_x wrote: lol, yeah sure. plz stop making excuses for ehome and secret. mvp outplayed them both... I'm not making excuses for the losers. I'm just stating facts. Those were terrible drafts by Ehome and Secret. I know how good MVP is. As I have mentioned a few posts above, MVP is more than capable of taking down any team when they can play their game. So don't take it that I'm being biased or negative because I'm just being objective. | ||
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