VGJ.Storm is playing well, but Fnatic didn't seem that well prepared and then didn't play well. They got outdrafted in game 1 and outplayed in game 2.

arghyad1

India243 Posts

May 21 2018 22:22 GMT

#523

Starting off against Evil Geniuses at ESL. Not the easiest group, and in all likeliness, it is going to come down to a BO3 vs Evil Geniuses for a quarter final birth.

Last chance for Fnatic to earn a TI invite, and they need atleast 2nd place to stay in contention. This basically means that Fnatic would need 3 or 4 BO3 wins at ESL. Won't be easy, but not impossible by any means.

GOHF

United States1864 Posts

May 21 2018 22:46 GMT

#524

Group A actually looks like the group from Hell. I even think it’s dangerous to underestimate Team Spirit. They’re one of the other good looking CIS teams right now and they already earned their own spot at the Super Major.

arghyad1

India243 Posts

May 24 2018 16:14 GMT

#525

Fnatic now needs 2 more BO3 wins, vs OG & Optic, & they can break into top 8 DPC teams. They got the easier draw in the play-offs for sure. Eagerly hoping they make this tourney count.

Aznupdown

Canada318 Posts

May 24 2018 18:57 GMT

#526

Agreed, this is probably their best chance to get a 2nd at this Major. Hopefully they can pull it off

plasmidghost

Belgium16168 Posts

May 24 2018 21:30 GMT

#527

I think Fnatic will make it to the finals at ESL

goody153

44238 Posts

May 25 2018 12:08 GMT

#528

I've seen this scenario a couple of times already where fnatic has a favorable bracket but they still end up losing to some team they shouldn't

As much as i'd want them to succeed i bet Optic/OG is gonna beat them when they shouldn't.

This kind of bracket happened many times already and they still disappoint

It'll be a happy surprise if they managed to reach the finals though. That's potentially the best they could do this tournament

arghyad1

India243 Posts

May 26 2018 18:45 GMT

#529

Threre's really no point hoping for this team to do anything good. They never fail to bring their worst to games that matter.

That game 3 vs Optic was over in ~ 10 mins. Fnatic just ignored top where EE spec was up against lycan and bane. Lycan had almost double the cs of the next hero at the end of laning stage, & spec had the lowest cs among core.

They played pathetic & they deserved this loss. Even in TI I don't think they will do anything substantial coz its not patch or meta that hinders this team. This team just lacks the sheer will & focus to win big games.

plasmidghost

Belgium16168 Posts

May 26 2018 22:05 GMT

#530

I now don't think Fnatic's going to even make it to TI, given that they always choke and lose games where they should win, they'll probably lose in the qualifiers to some team like Execration

goody153

44238 Posts

May 27 2018 12:13 GMT

#531

They can't even beat Optic now and that was an incredibly favorable bracket for them. The last they lost against optic was understandable since they had adam playing in place of pieliedie and they had zero 4 position that time since dj is playing 5 pos. They have zero excuse for the recent loss

I think they'll make it to TI but will mostly likely be part of the bottom half of the placings. You know the annual c9 collapse and all that.

FuzzyJAM

Scotland9300 Posts

May 27 2018 17:36 GMT

#532

Dunno what people are expecting. Fnatic is a decent team and they get decent results. Top 4 is not horrendous. If you can't handle that they're not going to win TI then support a different team.

goody153

44238 Posts

May 28 2018 00:06 GMT

#533

Its expected they likely won't win but they've recently had easier brackets like the recent esl but they couldnt just seal the deal

That was with a favorable bracket that's why I'm so disappointed and they could've gotten top 2. I always follow EE teams and hope but I also have a backup team to follow since every TI they seem to detonate no matter how good they are pre-TI

plasmidghost

Belgium16168 Posts

May 28 2018 00:14 GMT

#534

On May 28 2018 09:06 goody153 wrote:
Its expected they likely won't win but they've recently had easier brackets like the recent esl but they couldnt just seal the deal

That was with a favorable bracket that's why I'm so disappointed and they could've gotten top 2. I always follow EE teams and hope but I also have a backup team to follow since every TI they seem to detonate no matter how good they are pre-TI

I second this, nothing's going to stop me form cheering for EE but I'm also being pragmatic just from their recent results

plasmidghost

Belgium16168 Posts

August 20 2018 15:54 GMT

#535

Alright everyone, it's time for EE-sama to make it past 16th for the first time since TI5! I would be quite shocked if they manage to lose to Serenity, but then again, it is a Bo1 and anything can happen

Aezo-

Canada378 Posts

August 20 2018 17:05 GMT

#536

yeah b01 is rough, especially considering they were so close to upper bracket this week
but as long as they get abed & DJ some of their stronger heroes they should be able to go on a run

goody153

44238 Posts

August 20 2018 17:31 GMT

#537

This is what I expected from them before the event. In the lower bracket in the brink of elimination as ee teams seem to be this regardless if they even did relatively decent pre-TI (namely they get a 2nd place finish at some tournament before TI always)

I thought as the group stages progresses this would be EE breaks the record but they still managed to get eclipsed by some team. And they're in the same position as last year again

Kinda disappointing but I really hoped it would be different this time ( can still be different but probably not)

Ah well there's always next year

Mosoball

Finland686 Posts

August 21 2018 04:28 GMT

#538

Well fellas, Fnatic did their best. Here's hoping for a calm shuffle with little to no drama!

DucK-

Singapore11447 Posts

August 21 2018 04:41 GMT

#539

Can only blame the group stage chokes...

GOHF

United States1864 Posts

August 21 2018 04:49 GMT

#540

On August 21 2018 13:28 Mosoball wrote:
Well fellas, Fnatic did their best. Here's hoping for a calm shuffle with little to no drama!

The thing is I don't believe this was true at all, at least where that bo1 game was concerned. It comes back to this:

On August 21 2018 02:05 Aezo- wrote:
but as long as they get abed & DJ some of their stronger heroes they should be able to go on a run

You know what didn't happen? That^. Seriously, Phoenix? Visage? The former is not a hero that DJ should be playing and the latter has dubious impact in the current meta. Coupled with a poor Ursa matchup and the whole draft was just out of character on top of being straight dogshit.