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Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-13 04:09:45
July 13 2014 04:08 GMT
#941
More interviews~ (unfortunately I'm not as good as CrimsonSoldier with the youtube mirrors with captions, so only text translations in spoilers xD)

Iceiceice: "Burning may continue playing"

+ Show Spoiler +
Iceiceice: I will play until TI20

On DK getting 3rd
Iceiceice: Of course I hoped to get 1st/2nd, but I think 3rd/4th should be better because at least you get to play a BO3 tomorrow, which allows you to still work your brain and think about the game. It's like warmup. First and second is bad because you don't play in phase 3 and you only get to watch others play. First and second will be in higher spirits, but I think 3/4th has a better chance of getting the championship.

On VG and the new format
Iceiceice: I think VG learned a lot when they went to Germany for ESL, and did a lot of work after returning to China for a short while. VG's style is very stable - they have a stable push. So I think that they are good playing anyone in a BO1. I think BO1 is very unstable, and is a disadvantage for stronger teams. [Can't hear his reasoning but he says BO2 is more fair.] BO1 is more chaotic/unpredictable.

On food and diets in international tournaments
Iceiceice: I think it's average. I can be accustomed to the food I eat at any place since I'm Singaporean - we eat everything and anything. However, eating the same thing everyday - even I don't want that. My teammates prefer eating Chinese food, so they can't handle some of it.

On DK post-TI4 retirements
Iceiceice: ayeeee (that noise someone makes when they're annoyed with you). They say that every year. We'll see after TI4. I think Lanm is actually retiring, which is a pity. B-god/Burning might continue playing - that's what I think.



Burning: "Dodging arrows is really hard"

+ Show Spoiler +
BBC: Hi everyone I'm BBC and at my side is Burning. Hello Burning.
Burning: Hi everyone.

BBC: In the past few days, how has your team - including the 5 players, coach etc - pulled through? Were there any tough times?
Burning: The past few days has been a long, difficult process. On the first day, we lost our first game, and our record was 1-3 heading into the 5th game. Back then, our stress levels and mentality were unstable. 71, 发哥 [is this the head of DK?], and including data/statistics were very helpful and helped us adjust - most notably 71. He only slept for 3-4hrs in 2 days, busy with things concerning data and statistics.

BBC: About your position in the team and hero choices...right now you seemingly don't play the traditional carry role. In previous matches we've seen you play mostly heroes such as morphling, and we saw you play other heroes relatively less. This time your hero pool has become larger, like seeing your sven, or your brewmaster. These aren't very traditional 1 position heroes. Why do you think there is there this change in your style, or in your lineups?
Burning: I think that whatever type of role my team needs me to play, I will do it. So now it's not going to be morphling anti-mage every time.

BBC: How well have you adapted to these new heroes compared to your traditional carries?

Burning: I think in the general scheme of things there's no problem, but for small details I think I'm not as good as people who are in the position [who normally play these heores].

BBC: Heading forward, which western teams do you think are the strongest?

Burning: I think EG, Liquid, C9 are all pretty good........who else is in the top 10?
BBC: Na'vi
Burning (at the same time): I just remember these.

BBC: What do you think of Na'vi's performance?
Burning: Na'vi adjusted pretty well, and it seems like they as well had a rough start but adjusted accordingly in later games. In elimination rounds, Na'vi is still a scary opponent.

BBC: Now to ask a question from our forum fans. That's - uh it's a joke you won't mind right? So the question is: Is dodging arrows really that hard?
Burning: It's actually pretty hard. Sometimes when you are playing in a tournament, there's a lot on your mind, including calling the shots, analyzing the movements of the opponent, and you think too much. Therefore, there might be some slow reactions on my side

(Ends with BBC being impressed that Burning answered that with a straight face)
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
July 13 2014 05:13 GMT
#942
Just watched DK vs EG. Pure art.

If we can draft and play like that, we're going all the way.
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ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-13 05:55:40
July 13 2014 05:43 GMT
#943
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzM5NzE3MjI0.html

Gamefy uploaded DK's comms during their picks & bans. 71 is super unhappy D: Gamefy deleted the original video, but according to the msg at the end netizens have alr re-upped it to gosu?

iceiceice still pretty chill though lol "let's go find someone to beat them (gamefy ppl) up"

Edit: wheee looks like it might blowing up. DK just can't catch a break it seems =_=;
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-13 06:22:53
July 13 2014 06:07 GMT
#944
Already blew up. Now it's blow up part 2 because gamefy apologized and people think it's not sincere + damage is already done. Apology is here

It's not up on gosu, rumor has it that valve intercepted and gosu deleted it, it never got to the english speaking community.

From what I've heard, there wasn't too much said in it. The huge problem here is that 71 left the room last (so only DK was left in the room) so DK players didn't know they were being filmed by a camera in the room.

Lanm's girlfriend also posted about it, her first post is seemingly deleted or I can't find it but here's a screenshot of it.
Translation: Since it's already happened, we just have to accept this reality. I only wish Chinese teams to add oil. And the only thing I want to ask: Not talking about ethical principles, when using a candid camera to film the Lanm who was sick and refused to be hospitalized to play, sleeping at late hours everyday analyzing replays, how do you have the heart to steal his work and achievements? Perhaps it's because of my own feelings, but can you not see the extra white hairs he's grown?
(yeah okay I just posted that last part for the awee factor ^_^)
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 13 2014 06:15 GMT
#945
I'm hearing everything from "Nothing much was said" to "Pocket strats got exposed." =X

Whatever the case, not much they can do anymore ... hope they don't let it affect them.
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
July 13 2014 06:23 GMT
#946

youtube mirror above


This is fucking bullshit man.
Why the fuck are non-Valve staff allowed in the team rooms in the first place?

In the future, there should only be Valve-hired media staff allowed in the player rooms as no other parties can be trusted. With 5million on the line for 1st place, its completely probable that some teams could bribe third party media pass people to spy for them. It might not have happened this TI but since the video got leaked, fans of the other teams could have easily passed the video onto the other teams and they will 100% use that information to their advantage.

If I was a part of DK I would literally be "i'm about to hurt someone and i dont care" pissed off.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 13 2014 06:39 GMT
#947
wow o_o if you're gamefy, you gotta be pretty stupid to still post that shit. you dont just share a team's strat.
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Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
July 13 2014 06:41 GMT
#948
Shitty situation but also really encouraging to see how upset 71 is. He's so invested in his players.

TI4: DK vs. The World
Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
July 13 2014 06:42 GMT
#949
There was a forum thread asking people who watched it what was said. Everyone was obviously being vague, but nothing as far as a pocket strat was reported.

This is just so flippin stupid from gamefy, and DK isn't catching a break ugh.

Some chinese were happy to see it not blown up in the english community, now it's on the top of reddit
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
July 13 2014 06:43 GMT
#950
On July 13 2014 15:41 Omigawa wrote:
Shitty situation but also really encouraging to see how upset 71 is. He's so invested in his players.

TI4: DK vs. The World

Looks like DK and VG vs world to me.
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
July 13 2014 06:44 GMT
#951
On July 13 2014 15:41 Omigawa wrote:
TI4: DK vs. The World


Really is beginning to feel like it ):

lol if there's one thing you can count on, it's that drama always spreads.
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
PotatoFury
Profile Joined August 2012
Philippines705 Posts
July 13 2014 07:04 GMT
#952
This TI is really trying to 1 up the past TIs in almost every aspect including drama.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 13 2014 07:04 GMT
#953
Any link to the video? Haha I don't mind watching it
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 13 2014 07:15 GMT
#954
I can't find it through English channels, which is a good sign. >.< Can't speak for the Chinese side of things, as I am not literate.

I'd like to believe the other teams won't go sniffing at it, but that's a hell of a lot of money on the line, and if someone sent it to them, they'd probably crack it open, esp. if they were playing DK next.
Retvets
Profile Joined April 2013
1781 Posts
July 13 2014 07:19 GMT
#955
DK just need to focus and hunker down.

DK fighting!
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
July 13 2014 07:31 GMT
#956
dk's draft against eg was pretty genius, ursa jugg lion. makes you wonder why people don't draft more 2fightercarry1support safe lanes, it has more scaling potential and often just as much killing power as 1carry2support
posting on liquid sites in current year
Khylol
Profile Joined June 2014
United States279 Posts
July 13 2014 07:33 GMT
#957
On July 13 2014 16:19 Retvets wrote:
DK just need to focus and hunker down.

DK fighting!


What kind of a reaction is that?
"I basically just do manga shit so fuck off." - EternaLEnVy // youtube.com/kyluls
nikuniku
Profile Joined August 2013
212 Posts
July 13 2014 07:50 GMT
#958
On July 13 2014 16:15 babylon wrote:
I can't find it through English channels, which is a good sign. >.< Can't speak for the Chinese side of things, as I am not literate.

I'd like to believe the other teams won't go sniffing at it, but that's a hell of a lot of money on the line, and if someone sent it to them, they'd probably crack it open, esp. if they were playing DK next.


Well, people have different ideas about the impact of the leak. The Chinese forums are not providing too much info for the video for the obvious reasons. But a lot of people said that was the first pro-drafting they have seen and were very impressed by it.

Internet rumor below, so take it with a big grain of salt:

It seemed that Gamefy did get their video covertly by a hidden camera, since at the end of the video Lanm asked "whose bag is this?" Apparently, Gamefy tried similar tricks on IG and VG. Their attempt against IG was foiled by a vigilant player.

/rumor.
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-13 08:07:42
July 13 2014 07:54 GMT
#959
This is a disgrace against DK. I don't care if it was an intern of Gamefy's, he wouldn't act on his own. He was sent in there for a purpose and the excuse is pure bullshit. Ban the whole organisation from all further tournaments that Valve runs.

Makes me furious that people would even attempt this. And 71 is correct, it's all their hardwork and effort being spilt right down the drain if the right people catch onto this.

If any pros deliberately searches or watches these videos I would be downright disappointed. I hope that the teams are professional enough to not look into this. I will go so far and say that if a player still in the tournament has been caught watching this video they should be punished.

And things were just going so well for DK..

Sigh.
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
July 13 2014 07:56 GMT
#960
71 is pissed, and rightly so. This is ridiculous, and simply should not happen at an event with millions of dollars on the line.

Valve should take swift and decisive action.
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