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On June 11 2014 02:30 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2014 17:23 ncsix wrote:
After WPC, couple of Chinese teams trying out western team strats, predominantly EE-Sama's Drow Ranger + Visage Combo, Carry Silencer and who knows.. maybe mid PA, but I really don't like the last one.
Carry Silencer might be a pipe dream too. Sure.. if you feed him kills early, he can do devastating damage and his ulti is pretty good, but most of the time he's just way too fragile and can't stand up to a 3 man surprise gank unlike say.. morphling, AM, he has no escape mechanism and isn't tanky and his damage is limited based on getting those kills or assists, not really ideal carry material if you ask me.
Think silencer's strength is really in a tri-lane contesting support just like Undying.
Don't mind DK trying out stuff, but I think they shouldn't have drafted so poorly on the last game of the Summit finals. Flying all the way to the States and losing in such a manner would be really demoralizing if I was them.
The biggest weakness of the Silencer draft was Burning constantly getting caught off and not getting off the silence. Many fights were lost with the ult not even being used. I give credit to eg on this front after losing to the draft earlier in the tournament. They made the changes they needed to win. It's a really interesting draft that gives you so much if it works, but it looks pretty ugly when it doesn't. Not with their new roster.
The game is pretty hard when universe beastmaster is there with the clutch roars.
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yikes. looking at recent results... hope 71 can keep them (Mushi and BurNing really) focused and away from the 'championship-less fate' line of thinking >_>;;
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I know now who is the true fan on TL for Team DK
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On June 11 2014 11:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Could they actually win games playing four protect one though? I think the game is too greedy at the moment with all the tricore and quadcore lineups. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 10:31 ncsix wrote:The biggest weakness of the Silencer draft was Burning constantly getting caught off and not getting off the silence. Many fights were lost with the ult not even being used. I give credit to eg on this front after losing to the draft earlier in the tournament. They made the changes they needed to win.
It's a really interesting draft that gives you so much if it works, but it looks pretty ugly when it doesn't.
Thats just it. You don't survive if you get caught off guard, 2 disable / stun + autoattacks will almost always kill silencer. Actually, I think DK has shifted their playstyle to a point where the supports don't baby sit Burning enough. They roam a lot and these days they don't accomplish as much because all the other pro teams are prepared for it. Pretty much everybody dies when they caught off guard and chain stunned. Sure you can replicate away if you're morphling and it is a safer hero, but I think Burning should be able to do the same thing on any carry. He gets farm with any hero no matter how the game is going. That is the legacy I expect at least.
Pretty much everybody dies when they caught off guard and chain stunned>> how about bristleboss? or viper? some heros are much built much tankier than others and thats my whole point about Silencer not really being able to carry, regardless how pro the player is. Its like saying Shadow shaman or Enchantress can carry, sure you can try to build a 5 man team around a concept, but its already convention that some heroes are wayy better carry material than others (abilities, stats, escape, damage).
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The thing about silencer is that people think his right clicks are important. Well relatively, it is worth shit because his.most important contribution is global. When you have double global, the best thing to do as silencer is just to stay in base while letting the rest of your team do stuff. Because if you get caught or forced to use global awkwardly, you lose the game. Just look at how alliance (both Loda and egm) and VP almost threw games (on egm case it did happen) because the silencer got picked off.
Now what I said has nothing to do with dk vs eg because burning didn't even have double global. But if you want to talk about carry silencer, that's the way you should carry. Farm go your double global, and let the rest of your team do the dirty stuff. At most you could BoT after you have used your globals.
Its an unintuitive concept, but if you think about just how crucial double global is to your team fight, and how relatively insignificant silencers other spells/contributions are, ensuring that double global can be used is of up most importance.
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On June 13 2014 10:23 riptide wrote:
Excited for ECL!
ECL is going to be siiiiiick!!! 4 of the best teams for the east duking it out, cant wait!
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On June 13 2014 11:32 Adrian_mx wrote:ECL is going to be siiiiiick!!! 4 of the best teams for the east duking it out, cant wait!
The games will be good but the event itself is pretty meh... I mean I understand why they made the format what it is (small multi-game LAN tournament), but 3 bo1's over the course of like 7 hours is pretty rough. Plus it's a LAN with multiple games so I wouldn't be surprised if there are delays lol. I'm just glad DK plays first so I can catch their match and then go to sleep.
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On June 13 2014 12:23 Omigawa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 11:32 Adrian_mx wrote:On June 13 2014 10:23 riptide wrote:
Excited for ECL! ECL is going to be siiiiiick!!! 4 of the best teams for the east duking it out, cant wait! The games will be good but the event itself is pretty meh... I mean I understand why they made the format what it is (small multi-game LAN tournament), but 3 bo1's over the course of like 7 hours is pretty rough. Plus it's a LAN with multiple games so I wouldn't be surprised if there are delays lol. I'm just glad DK plays first so I can catch their match and then go to sleep.
Yeah, but thats how they make money and its cool and definetly fine for the fans who want to watch
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Consider putting an Articles/Write-Ups section in the OP?
Could add the pre-TI3 article from here and gg.net etc, + whatever else
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wait i missed the start of this game, why is his name standin.mushi
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Well, what do you know: when you give BurNing a good hard carry and Mushi a real mid, cool things can happen!
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On June 14 2014 18:22 riptide wrote:
Well, what do you know: when you give BurNing a good hard carry and Mushi a real mid, cool things can happen!
I said the same thing during the Summit- it didn't happen!
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Oh man, kinda worried for DK in their game against Newbee.  Previous meetings have not gone well.
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