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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 10:19:56
June 01 2014 10:14 GMT
#110981
I play and enjoy hearthstone but like all other card games, paying most definitely gives you strictly better cards far faster than just playing could ever do.

It's pay2win alright. Like all other card games.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 01 2014 10:16 GMT
#110982
On June 01 2014 18:50 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 12:50 Ru ba wrote:
constructed pay2win

You realize that the game has been out for so long that even if you have never touched arena you should have crafted at least 4 legends and have every common / rare by now. (I have 20 arena wins and like 3000 constructed wins or something without spending a penny).

You only really require leeroy anyway since the meta is far too fast to play control on ladder.

Reading this im sooo glad I havent touched this game oh thanks be to the lords
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
June 01 2014 10:19 GMT
#110983
On June 01 2014 18:50 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 12:50 Ru ba wrote:
constructed pay2win

You realize that the game has been out for so long that even if you have never touched arena you should have crafted at least 4 legends and have every common / rare by now. (I have 20 arena wins and like 3000 constructed wins or something without spending a penny).

You only really require leeroy anyway since the meta is far too fast to play control on ladder.

it was a joke but yea,I only play arena and cba with constructed
u gotta farm
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 01 2014 10:30 GMT
#110984
On June 01 2014 19:16 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 18:50 Drazerk wrote:
On June 01 2014 12:50 Ru ba wrote:
constructed pay2win

You realize that the game has been out for so long that even if you have never touched arena you should have crafted at least 4 legends and have every common / rare by now. (I have 20 arena wins and like 3000 constructed wins or something without spending a penny).

You only really require leeroy anyway since the meta is far too fast to play control on ladder.

Reading this im sooo glad I havent touched this game oh thanks be to the lords

Well you're supposed to play arena to get cards. I just abused a flaw in blizzard's match making to get all the cards which is why my win count is so stupidly high.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 10:42:43
June 01 2014 10:37 GMT
#110985
Lol you're not supposed to play arena to get cards, that's just one way to get cards.
I think arena is awfully boring for example, i got my cards through constructed and quests.

Edit: To clarify, i just dislike the notion that there is a 'supposed' way to play the game Arena is just another game mode, it isn't specifically there to give players cards. It's just that all rewards in hearthstone and thus the rewards in arena revolve around the cards.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 01 2014 10:42 GMT
#110986
Watching P-Flax try to split meepo's against chain frost has made my day.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 01 2014 10:56 GMT
#110987
On June 01 2014 19:37 Unleashing wrote:
Lol you're not supposed to play arena to get cards, that's just one way to get cards.
I think arena is awfully boring for example, i got my cards through constructed and quests.

Edit: To clarify, i just dislike the notion that there is a 'supposed' way to play the game Arena is just another game mode, it isn't specifically there to give players cards. It's just that all rewards in hearthstone and thus the rewards in arena revolve around the cards.


I'm a speedrunner I've learnt to cover my tracks and use words such as intended / supposed to :-P

Since there is a gold cap in constructed but not one in arena its the intended route of the developers for card progression nothing more.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 11:10:06
June 01 2014 11:03 GMT
#110988
Well it's faster just to spend money.

From what I played of hearthstone I just felt like there was too little to do, in terms of deckbuilding and playing. I think arena was alright but again, it gets pretty dull because it feels like the choices are kind of made for you. It's not like drafting in magic where you have very difficult decisions to make and you can create decks with real synergies not just 2 card combos.

Maybe after they release like 6 expansions so they're at a point where they have to make more interesting cards I will go back to it. But at the moment it's just so bland.

Dual-class mode could also make the deckbuilding (and play) interesting, but the game's obviously not balanced to support that.
Once you Goblak...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 01 2014 11:10 GMT
#110989
On June 01 2014 20:03 teapoted wrote:
Well it's faster just to spend money.

From what I played of hearthstone I just felt like there was too little to do, in terms of deckbuilding and playing. I think arena was alright but again, it gets pretty dull because it feels like the choices are kind of made for you. It's not like drafting in magic where you have very difficult decisions to make and you can create decks with real synergies not just 2 card combos.

Maybe after they release like 6 expansions so they're at a point where they have to make more interesting cards I will go back to it. But at the moment it's just so bland.

Dual-class mode could also make the deckbuilding interesting, but the games obviously not balanced to support that.


Yeah but paying for cards also defeats the only reason to play the game so its kind of pointless in the grand scheme of things.

The new class cards they've been releasing all seem kinda meh to be honest so hopefully the next expansion is better.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 11:12:08
June 01 2014 11:11 GMT
#110990
On June 01 2014 19:56 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 19:37 Unleashing wrote:
Lol you're not supposed to play arena to get cards, that's just one way to get cards.
I think arena is awfully boring for example, i got my cards through constructed and quests.

Edit: To clarify, i just dislike the notion that there is a 'supposed' way to play the game Arena is just another game mode, it isn't specifically there to give players cards. It's just that all rewards in hearthstone and thus the rewards in arena revolve around the cards.


I'm a speedrunner I've learnt to cover my tracks and use words such as intended / supposed to :-P

Since there is a gold cap in constructed but not one in arena its the intended route of the developers for card progression nothing more.

I can guarantee you that the vast majority of the playerbase does NOT hit the gold cap in constructed.
Winning 30 games of constructed daily is definitely not the norm.

And the gold cap was implemented to stop abusers, not because they really wanted to nerf constructed gold gain.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
June 01 2014 11:14 GMT
#110991
On June 01 2014 20:10 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 20:03 teapoted wrote:
Well it's faster just to spend money.

From what I played of hearthstone I just felt like there was too little to do, in terms of deckbuilding and playing. I think arena was alright but again, it gets pretty dull because it feels like the choices are kind of made for you. It's not like drafting in magic where you have very difficult decisions to make and you can create decks with real synergies not just 2 card combos.

Maybe after they release like 6 expansions so they're at a point where they have to make more interesting cards I will go back to it. But at the moment it's just so bland.

Dual-class mode could also make the deckbuilding interesting, but the games obviously not balanced to support that.


Yeah but paying for cards also defeats the only reason to play the game so its kind of pointless in the grand scheme of things.

The new class cards they've been releasing all seem kinda meh to be honest so hopefully the next expansion is better.
Getting cards isn't the only reason to play the game.

In fact if that's even part of the reason to play the game that's kind of sad.
Once you Goblak...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 01 2014 11:27 GMT
#110992
On June 01 2014 20:14 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 20:10 Drazerk wrote:
On June 01 2014 20:03 teapoted wrote:
Well it's faster just to spend money.

From what I played of hearthstone I just felt like there was too little to do, in terms of deckbuilding and playing. I think arena was alright but again, it gets pretty dull because it feels like the choices are kind of made for you. It's not like drafting in magic where you have very difficult decisions to make and you can create decks with real synergies not just 2 card combos.

Maybe after they release like 6 expansions so they're at a point where they have to make more interesting cards I will go back to it. But at the moment it's just so bland.

Dual-class mode could also make the deckbuilding interesting, but the games obviously not balanced to support that.


Yeah but paying for cards also defeats the only reason to play the game so its kind of pointless in the grand scheme of things.

The new class cards they've been releasing all seem kinda meh to be honest so hopefully the next expansion is better.
Getting cards isn't the only reason to play the game.

In fact if that's even part of the reason to play the game that's kind of sad.


Game is fun to play its just nice to have some actual story / something to strive for in a game and unlike Dota there is no online community in Hearthstone and its far too repetitive given the meta.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 01 2014 11:30 GMT
#110993
On June 01 2014 12:52 Dubzex wrote:
[image loading]

I feel like I accomplished something great tonight.

oshi-!

gz dbzx, ive still got like 2 ranks to go
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
June 01 2014 11:50 GMT
#110994
I'm up for a fantasy myself. Msg me to join your league.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 01 2014 12:51 GMT
#110995
Do you think we'll have a 'private' tournament with over $1M prizepool in the season between TI4 and TI5? We've had 250k+ this season when TI3 prizepool was $2.9M, TI4 should reach $10M, so I think a million for other events could be doable if Valve gives in a little bit and allows the organizers to make some better compendiums. For example a long battle bonus comparable to the TI one, etc.
super gg
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 12:56:21
June 01 2014 12:55 GMT
#110996
We might, and we might also not. I think something like 500~600k is more likely.
It depends on a lot of things, will TI4 result in another huge boom in dota viewership and play-base? If so, how big? If we're at 8 million monthly unique players in the west currently i think we might just hit 11~12 million after TI4 and then it'll drop down and stabilize at around 10 million. Or maybe the increase will be way bigger or way smaller, who knows
However what i'm personally more interested in isn't bigger prizepools for the general tournaments although that's also neat. I hope we soon reach a point where organizations can/will pay the players wages good enough to have the players focus full-time on dota. Sure we have a few organizations and teams already at that stage, but it's not the norm.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 01 2014 12:55 GMT
#110997
then youre just taking away from ti, why do we need prizepools that big?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
June 01 2014 13:25 GMT
#110998
The next step could be valve software to empower non-geeks so that they can also create a nice looking mirana sets and effects, as the software is pretty complicated atm. And drafting for me is the most challenging aspect of the game (i feel like napoleon), it would be nice if they could give people more practise/timespend with that. to quote Col. John 'Hannibal' Smith: " I love it when a plan comes together."
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
June 01 2014 13:37 GMT
#110999
We're all in the cesspool known as twitch. Some chick has 60k viewers.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 01 2014 13:47 GMT
#111000
Dota is messing with me, i wanted to add another inscribed gem to my WR cape because i had one lying around
Before adding the gem:
-Kinetic gem
-Inscribed gem
-Open slot

After adding the gem:
-Inscribed gem
-Kinetic gem
-Inscribed gem

AND THIS IS REALLY ANNOYING ME
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