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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 28 2014 20:10 GMT
#110181
On May 29 2014 05:04 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 04:51 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 29 2014 04:46 goody153 wrote:
am i just the one who is having a bad feeling that western teams won't do well or even be a match against chinese teams this year ?

i mean last year i think why some western teams did well is because they have the wisp + creative play advantage .. this year it feels like the chinese are even better at drafts.

i feel like if you are not alliance(they always play very solid when prepared)/navi(they wreck shit in high profile matches) you are gonna have a hard time vs chinese ..


Alliance and Na'Vi aren't even at the top of the Western scene....

Idk .. It has always been a mistake to doubt na'vi. It's just too many times they have shown sloppy play then suddenly win everything.

And alliance has shown to be really shit on some weeks and other weeks they can suddenly take out games or series in a really dominating fashion.

aside from them .. c9 can beat everyone at times and most of the time they choke. Empire is really good except grand finals for some reason. Fnatic is too weird. I guess that leaves us EG but they still need a carry.


Or you could take things at face value instead of the random assumptions...

And we can say that a current non-top tier Alliance can still stomp some of the non-top tier Chinese teams.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44290 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 20:20:03
May 28 2014 20:19 GMT
#110182
On May 29 2014 05:10 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 05:04 goody153 wrote:
On May 29 2014 04:51 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On May 29 2014 04:46 goody153 wrote:
am i just the one who is having a bad feeling that western teams won't do well or even be a match against chinese teams this year ?

i mean last year i think why some western teams did well is because they have the wisp + creative play advantage .. this year it feels like the chinese are even better at drafts.

i feel like if you are not alliance(they always play very solid when prepared)/navi(they wreck shit in high profile matches) you are gonna have a hard time vs chinese ..


Alliance and Na'Vi aren't even at the top of the Western scene....

Idk .. It has always been a mistake to doubt na'vi. It's just too many times they have shown sloppy play then suddenly win everything.

And alliance has shown to be really shit on some weeks and other weeks they can suddenly take out games or series in a really dominating fashion.

aside from them .. c9 can beat everyone at times and most of the time they choke. Empire is really good except grand finals for some reason. Fnatic is too weird. I guess that leaves us EG but they still need a carry.


Or you could take things at face value instead of the random assumptions...

And we can say that a current non-top tier Alliance can still stomp some of the non-top tier Chinese teams.

well yeah.. but for na'vi's side we still yet to see a western team that will beat them in b05 but if we are being totally honest they are a lackluster right now.
this is a quote
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
May 28 2014 20:30 GMT
#110183
On May 29 2014 04:59 WolfintheSheep wrote:
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On May 29 2014 04:58 HighTimeDotA wrote:
fear is a good player but hes getting rustier by the day. his decision making and mechanics are both getting worse, too bad cuz im a fan.


...wut.

You know he hasn't actually played for 2 months, right?


i know that, even pre break his performance wasnt superb. Taking a break shouldn't affect decision making much. at the current state of eg they wont make top 5.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 28 2014 20:51 GMT
#110184
Teams have time to improve and we had this exact same discussion last year. Navi looked lack luster, china was waiting to show is what was up and we all wondered how team liquid was going to fair.

And I agree with people that NaVi most recent showing haven't been great, but it's never safe to bet against them. They are the same team as last year and they threw down for IT3.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
May 28 2014 20:53 GMT
#110185
I think we all know how liquid is going to do
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 21:04:06
May 28 2014 21:03 GMT
#110186
Hey, I never thought the Redsox would win a World Series in my life time. They have won several at this point. Have a little faith.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 28 2014 21:04 GMT
#110187
On May 29 2014 05:53 kollin wrote:
I think we all know how liquid is going to do

They are not going to do at all :D
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 28 2014 21:05 GMT
#110188
On May 29 2014 06:03 Plansix wrote:
Have a little faith Moriarty.

you were missing the most important part
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
May 28 2014 21:20 GMT
#110189
On May 29 2014 06:03 Plansix wrote:
Hey, I never thought the Redsox would win a World Series in my life time. They have won several at this point. Have a little faith.

Liquid is not currently at the level of the Red Sox. They're going to have to improve majorly during their bootcamp to have a hope of even being the wildcard.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 28 2014 21:38 GMT
#110190
liquid in terms of talent is probably fine. Aside from wts theyre more or less even or better in terms of individual skill on every position. The main issues of the team is still coming up with a solid game plan and believing in themselves and each other.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
May 28 2014 21:40 GMT
#110191
Okay, there's no LC thread and I don't feel like making a whole new thread just to talk about one potential build.

After the patch, couldn't she be a pretty solid solo offlaner a la ET? Overwhelming Odds can be used to lasthit, and you can use Soul Ring to sustain. Press the Attack can keep you in lane, and the purge protects you from slows, while Overwhelming Odds' speed boost can get you out of a lot of ganks. She can also defend pushes really easily, and if the enemy groups up at all in their trilane, can punish that with massive damage. Finally, the 3 position seems to suit her best, as she's primarily a pickoff hero that also benefits from getting some farm on the side.

Is this already current meta and I'm just behind on things?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
May 28 2014 21:42 GMT
#110192
On May 29 2014 06:38 Kupon3ss wrote:
liquid in terms of talent is probably fine. Aside from wts theyre more or less even or better in terms of individual skill on every position. The main issues of the team is still coming up with a solid game plan and believing in themselves and each other.

TC doesn't show a lot of individual skill. He makes a lot of really strange choices that end up with him dying. It's like I'm watching myself play, sometimes.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 28 2014 21:44 GMT
#110193
On May 29 2014 06:42 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 06:38 Kupon3ss wrote:
liquid in terms of talent is probably fine. Aside from wts theyre more or less even or better in terms of individual skill on every position. The main issues of the team is still coming up with a solid game plan and believing in themselves and each other.

TC doesn't show a lot of individual skill. He makes a lot of really strange choices that end up with him dying. It's like I'm watching myself play, sometimes.

It's because he doesn't believe in himself.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 28 2014 21:45 GMT
#110194
There's no "meta" really established cuz LC isn't in CM but I think that 3 is a great position for her. That hero is pretty strong imo. Could also run her mid for fast blink pickoffs a-la bat mid. Safe-lane carry is a bit questionable since she doesn't really need babysit most of the time. She also makes a fine 4-position but you kinda sacrifice the utility of duel there since you can't really yolo-duel people as a 4-position.

Also there's no way you need soul ring on that hero.
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Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
May 28 2014 21:48 GMT
#110195
man I really wish Merlini went pro again
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 28 2014 21:59 GMT
#110196
Seems EG players bet on there own matches, haha
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 28 2014 22:07 GMT
#110197
On May 29 2014 06:48 Adrian_mx wrote:
man I really wish Merlini went pro again

pros nowdays are better than he is.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 28 2014 22:07 GMT
#110198
no i just think ppd enjoys whining more than winning
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 28 2014 22:10 GMT
#110199
I think Merlini could totally transition into a full pro if he wanted to. I mean Purge made it happen. :D Just kidding, I think Merlini would be good enough to be on a legit team that competes in the west.
super gg
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 28 2014 22:11 GMT
#110200
he isnt at the moment, but yes i think he could transition
but i dont think he will
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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