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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 09:27:04
May 14 2014 09:26 GMT
#107681
I think they're fine as long as they're in France, then they're just maids. But if they cross the border, Riot will be there.
Once you Goblak...
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 14 2014 10:03 GMT
#107682
Did they fix the bonus exp bug from compendiums yet?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 14 2014 10:05 GMT
#107683
Yes, works just fine here anyway.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 14 2014 10:15 GMT
#107684
On May 14 2014 17:16 govie wrote:
They got 4 boobs, couple of goofballs, kittens, singsing, bruno and sheever.

Implying sheever =/= boobs
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 10:20:55
May 14 2014 10:18 GMT
#107685
On May 14 2014 17:06 teapoted wrote:
To be honest I think the EUHub as a whole (lounge included) would get more viewers if it was a proper production than if it was this stuff.

The thing is they can talk about how they only want that to be the chill stream or whatever. But it's quite clear the majority of the effort was put into that stream and just getting people to hang out on that stream. Which is why they have significantly more people than they actually need and/or people who aren't there to cast.

While on the other side of the world BTS put no effort into their couch stream and much more effort into their game stream (although they still have technical issues in their main studio as always, effort is the key word), and thus much more people watch the game streams than their couch stream which is tucked away on bts3.



That the NA Casters are more interested in the NA games should not really be a surprise? Many People in general just don’t give a shit about many of these games… Probably about as much as the guys on the couch.

I mean : „Team XYZ that plays in some NA league and just rolls over as soon as EG shows up is playing against some team that some time ago won a game against Liquid.“… DO YOU FEEL THE HYPE!!!

I actually feel bad for the teams that have to play in the EU/Chinese qualifier... I wonder how they feel when watching the quality of some of these NA qualifier games… The big question was never about who should qualify. It was about seeing if NAR/Liquid for some random reason play worse than they are or not. They didn’t… No Hype or storyline was created.

I know, its good for the NA scene and all that but for most viewers there is about 0 personal investment into these teams… There is SNA, Liquid, NAR and maybe SNA all the others you might or might not have heard off because you stumbled upon some NA-League stream you watched because Liquid/EG/NAR /SNA played… (well, Revenge got some attention too, but not really for their play ).
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 14 2014 10:19 GMT
#107686
rtz nearly 7k. damn
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 14 2014 10:32 GMT
#107687
NA isn't that bad on the world stage you know.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 10:37:28
May 14 2014 10:32 GMT
#107688
On May 14 2014 19:18 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 17:06 teapoted wrote:
To be honest I think the EUHub as a whole (lounge included) would get more viewers if it was a proper production than if it was this stuff.

The thing is they can talk about how they only want that to be the chill stream or whatever. But it's quite clear the majority of the effort was put into that stream and just getting people to hang out on that stream. Which is why they have significantly more people than they actually need and/or people who aren't there to cast.

While on the other side of the world BTS put no effort into their couch stream and much more effort into their game stream (although they still have technical issues in their main studio as always, effort is the key word), and thus much more people watch the game streams than their couch stream which is tucked away on bts3.



That the NA Casters are more interested in the NA games should not really be a surprise? Many People in general just don’t give a shit about many of these games… Probably about as much as the guys on the couch.

I mean : „Team XYZ that plays in some NA league and just rolls over as soon as EG shows up is playing against some team that some time ago won a game against Liquid.“… DO YOU FEEL THE HYPE!!!

I actually feel bad for the teams that have to play in the EU/Chinese qualifier... I wonder how they feel when watching the quality of some of these NA qualifier games… The big question was never about who should qualify. It was about seeing if NAR/Liquid for some random reason play worse than they are or not. They didn’t… No Hype or storyline was created.

I know, its good for the NA scene and all that but for most viewers there is about 0 personal investment into these teams… There is SNA, Liquid, NAR and maybe SNA all the others you might or might not have heard off because you stumbled upon some NA-League stream you watched because Liquid/EG/NAR /SNA played… (well, Revenge got some attention too, but not really for their play ).
1. I don't think it will be any different if it's SEA or AM. The NA hub is focused on Dota.
2. There are plenty of storylines in the AM region, it's the production's job to make you aware of them or to make it interesting. You've clearly just been watching the EU guys as you don't have a clue about it.
3. I could dismiss every tournament by saying that "it was about seeing if the top team for some random reason played worse". That's meaningless, most tournaments only have 1-2 favourites.
4. There's no personal investment because the biggest opportunity these guys get you have a large part of the casual playerbase sit and watch kittens. The qualifiers is the best place where you build personal investment for these teams.
Once you Goblak...
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
May 14 2014 10:32 GMT
#107689
he just missed raze and died, report sf
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
May 14 2014 10:33 GMT
#107690
and on EU vs NA vs world etc etc
new NA teams seem quite good tbh
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
May 14 2014 11:00 GMT
#107691
this could be peru's big chance
uG for ti4 champions
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
May 14 2014 11:02 GMT
#107692
After thrashing EG 3-0 in the grand finals.

Revenge for all those times Americans complained about Peruvians.

VIVA LA REVOLUCION
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 11:22:41
May 14 2014 11:22 GMT
#107693
On May 14 2014 20:02 Laurens wrote:
After thrashing EG 3-0 in the grand finals.

Revenge for all those times Americans complained about Peruvians.

VIVA LA REVOLUCION
You mean after beating Zephyr in the grand final.

And thus begins the Peru vs Korea* era of Dota.
Once you Goblak...
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
May 14 2014 11:28 GMT
#107694
On May 14 2014 20:22 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 20:02 Laurens wrote:
After thrashing EG 3-0 in the grand finals.

Revenge for all those times Americans complained about Peruvians.

VIVA LA REVOLUCION
You mean after beating Zephyr in the grand final.

And thus begins the Peru vs Korea* era of Dota.

Kpop is actually huge in Peru from what I've heard.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 11:47:06
May 14 2014 11:43 GMT
#107695
So if Steam goes down while I'm doing the 10 hero challenge, will my win still register? I don't want to play SF again. hahaha

YES!!
I know where my towel is.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
May 14 2014 11:58 GMT
#107696
When I play support, my cores do dumb shit and we lose. When I play a core, our supports struggle with such monumental tasks as buying courier and wards. This is quite the dilemma.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 14 2014 12:00 GMT
#107697
On May 14 2014 20:58 Acritter wrote:
When I play support, my cores do dumb shit and we lose. When I play a core, our supports struggle with such monumental tasks as buying courier and wards. This is quite the dilemma.

hey there's a QQ thread for that ;p
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
May 14 2014 12:03 GMT
#107698
But this is general QQ! It belongs in the general discussion thread, along with general caster hate, general racism, and generally awful posts.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
May 14 2014 12:33 GMT
#107699
Finally! Bought a compendium! :') Being a gamer from a third world country is haaaaard as hell!
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10939 Posts
May 14 2014 12:36 GMT
#107700
On May 14 2014 19:32 Shaella wrote:
NA isn't that bad on the world stage you know.



Yeah, thats why we see them in global tournaments all the time...


On May 14 2014 17:06 teapoted wrote:
1. I don't think it will be any different if it's SEA or AM. The NA hub is focused on Dota.
2. There are plenty of storylines in the AM region, it's the production's job to make you aware of them or to make it interesting. You've clearly just been watching the EU guys as you don't have a clue about it.
3. I could dismiss every tournament by saying that "it was about seeing if the top team for some random reason played worse". That's meaningless, most tournaments only have 1-2 favourites.
4. There's no personal investment because the biggest opportunity these guys get you have a large part of the casual playerbase sit and watch kittens. The qualifiers is the best place where you build personal investment for these teams.



1. Possible. I was talking more about the people actually tuning in to game streams instead of watching kittens... I myself actually have the Kittenstream open and watch the games ingame if it seems interesting.

2. Yes, sure. But it's mainly storylines about Team XYZ upsetting Liquid. Most other stuff, to me, seems to be mainly personal drama which i really don't care about. Me totally missing all these storylines would be strange, I visit these Forums daily and watch games daily... NA Scene seems to be mainly about constant instability/team switching/dedication/blogboys and "RTZ/EG said something about Player/Team XYZ...".

3. Most tournaments have only 1-2 favorites? Actually atm there is only 1 true favorite and thats DK, behind them its a giant clusterfuck between the allready TI4 invited Teams... Or pls... Who are/were these "clear" favorites for ESL one, Dreamleague or Starladder? We now know that its DK, but before Starladder that also wasn't really the case. its hard to judge the strenght of teams/regions that allmost never play against each other.
Before Alliance/Navis trips to China many people were saying that Whisp is overrated in the west and that the Chinese will show us how to deal with the hero... We now know how this turned out and its NOW obvious that the Chinese meta was behind...
BUT we actually can compare NA Dota to EU Dota thanks to EG, Liquid and arguably C9. Liquid seems not T1 atm and is still rampaging thru most Teams in this qualification. So, either Liquid is suddenly playing really good again or the NA Scene is weak. I kinda hope that Liquid is strong again but that just seems to be the less likely explanation.

4. The opportunity was qualifying for TI to play against known T1 teams. But again, either Liquid (and Nar) suddenly improved and are near EG's level or there is just a big skillgap between them and most other NA Teams which makes this qualifire pretty boring. All else this was just NA-Dotaleague in fast forward.
Will the EU qualifiers be diffrent? They got the potential and at least many of these teams are known because they are actually around for more than a few months…
Btw : The « Kittenstream » still actually shows the games… At least when i watched.
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