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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 06:12:24
May 14 2014 06:03 GMT
#107641
On May 14 2014 12:36 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 12:20 Acritter wrote:
They also could have played a cookie-cutter, totally predictable but reasonably strong draft. Let's not forget that that's always an option. There's little stress there, because it's just playing a copy of games you've played hundreds of times over. It certainly doesn't show strats if you decide things like "Puck is a strong and versatile mid, Luna is a good carry, Cent is a good offlane" and so on.

They should just play dota and the community should not be fucking drama queens. It's like middle school girl hour here.

In the NFL/NBA they send out their back up players when games don't matter any more, even if the other team will secure a play off spot from the game. People give no fucks and accept that the team is going to do what is best for them, period. Esports fans just like to get "outraged" about stupid shit that any professional sports team would have done in a second.
This isn't the NFL/NBA, so what's your point? There are many things we don't do that NFL/NBA fans do. It's almost like they're different communities or something. And more than that, what says that NFL/NBA fans doing something makes it "right"? Do they represent sports fans globally? And is this even just about fans? many players aren't happy either. Also, I wasn't aware of this, but did Liquid use back-up players? Do we have back-up players in Dota? Is Back-up players the same thing as sending out your real team and just playing shit? I'd be surprised if a professional sports team would do that because it would poorly represent their brand, but I'm no expert on American sports.

No, so please, drop this bullshit sports analogy because the communities have little in common.

Generally speaking, it has always been seen as distasteful to throw away games which aren't important to you but they are to the others. Not just to those teams, but to fans and the organizers. Of course when fan-favourite teams (Navi) do this you will get a bunch of people saying "but they can do whatever they want," however, that doesn't change that a lot of people have always found it in poor taste.

While I generally agree that this is a format issue, at the same time if I was the manager of a Dota team I wouldn't want my players doing this because I know a lot of people view it as disrespectful (and so do I, because it is disrespectful). And eSports is such a small industry where you don't really want to piss off a large portion of pro players + fans on a regular basis.

==

That said I'm happy UG made it through.
Once you Goblak...
TheLynguist
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany45 Posts
May 14 2014 06:11 GMT
#107642
On May 14 2014 15:03 FinestHour wrote:
too many fucking mini patches in one day


really wish Valve would post some info on this
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 06:18:02
May 14 2014 06:16 GMT
#107643
On May 14 2014 14:14 SpiZe wrote:
So you ready for Pudge arcana ?

This is such a stupid vote xd


Why they even put pudge in the vote is beyond me. Just make a damn arcana for him to keep the trench happy and then let us vote for a real hero.

There might be enough people out there to outvote the hordes, but every vote that isn't pudge is going to be split across six heroes. There's no chance.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 06:18:47
May 14 2014 06:18 GMT
#107644
Pudge might not get an arcana with this system, because previously the votes would be split but eventually we'll have pudge vs 1 other hero(I hope we end up with that anyway pudge vs 6 is going to be harder)
And if people just vote on that other hero he might not win.
But we'll have to see, trench is strong.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
May 14 2014 06:24 GMT
#107645
Actually, you might be right.

Those that remain will be pitted against each other in a single-elimination voting deathmatch to determine which will receive the next arcana


So the plan is to pretty much vote against pudge every time and hope.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
May 14 2014 06:25 GMT
#107646
Pudge arcana could be cool. I don't really have a problem with it as long as it's really well done. I suppose the only real issue I see is that it means that he might be picked more, which he certainly doesn't 'need' to be. But I don't know if Arcana sell well enough for the pick rate to be heavily affected.

I would personally like to see a tinker arcana though.
Once you Goblak...
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 14 2014 06:25 GMT
#107647
On May 14 2014 14:55 Shaella wrote:
yup.

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Hilarious ina fucking epic nerd baller yolo way
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 06:28:05
May 14 2014 06:26 GMT
#107648
We might be able to eliminate pudge early on as long as people vote against him, if pudge is eliminated we could have an overall more fun voting for the rest of the way imho.


On May 14 2014 15:25 teapoted wrote:
Pudge arcana could be cool. I don't really have a problem with it as long as it's really well done. I suppose the only real issue I see is that it means that he might be picked more, which he certainly doesn't 'need' to be. But I don't know if Arcana sell well enough for the pick rate to be heavily affected.

I would personally like to see a tinker arcana though.

I think my problem with a pudge arcana is that he already has so many cool unique and animation altering items.
You could mix and match current pudge items to get something like a mr. potato-face pudge arcana.

So yeah, my problem with it is just that there are so many other heroes more deserving of an arcana imho. Like Jakiro for example. To each his own though
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
May 14 2014 06:32 GMT
#107649
I don't disagree.
Once you Goblak...
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
May 14 2014 06:33 GMT
#107650
Arcana SF is probably gonna be the coolest, though I wouldn't mind a Mirana, Puck, or QoP one myself.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
May 14 2014 06:35 GMT
#107651
QoP arcana would just make her boobs bigger.
Once you Goblak...
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 14 2014 06:37 GMT
#107652
I'd vote for an axe arcana myself if it wasn't because i'm so satisfied with my axe's current item set.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
May 14 2014 06:42 GMT
#107653
Qop arcana would presumably just be naked.

The problem to me is that pudge is going to get an arcana no matter what. Valve know that the instant they release one they'll probably make more than they did on compendiums.

These kind of things are an opportunity to get one onto a more interesting hero who might otherwise have missed out, imo.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
May 14 2014 06:42 GMT
#107654
Phantom assassin arcana covering the entire map in blood.
Once you Goblak...
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 06:44:01
May 14 2014 06:43 GMT
#107655
1. slardar/sf/morph
4. bane/zeus/tiny/razor

I'd be happy with any of these
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 14 2014 06:43 GMT
#107656
Pudge already has like 2 arcanas with the dendi set and the DC set
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10939 Posts
May 14 2014 06:48 GMT
#107657
Tiny Arcana..

Make them stones burn or something .
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
May 14 2014 06:53 GMT
#107658
morphling arcana

fire morph!
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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
May 14 2014 07:02 GMT
#107659
On May 14 2014 15:48 Velr wrote:
Tiny Arcana..

Make them stones burn or something .


I'd be up for a Tiny arcana that just changes the tree. Like maybe a huge stone club that throws rocks up in the air or something.

Sven Arcana maybe? Give him a lightsaber!
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 14 2014 07:07 GMT
#107660
hey guys if you are talking about compendium stuff it'd be good to keep it in one of the compendium threads like http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/3159-9th-compendium-stretch-goal-reached-how-high-will-it-go or http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/2-ti4-compendium-released-new-stretch-goals :D
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