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On October 05 2012 17:40 LoLAdriankat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 17:26 Mataza wrote:On October 05 2012 17:08 Tobberoth wrote:On October 05 2012 15:07 BurningSera wrote: Ya i am not sure why drow got shitty items, she is like the easiest hero to design items on her. Elf girl <3 She's not an elf though, she's human. *picky* Drow is to my knowledge a word for dark elf, a subform of elf. Just because her new itemset makes her look like a man doesn´t mean she´s suddenly human. Drow's lore states that she is a human raised by members of the Drow race. I beg to differ + Show Spoiler [actual Lore] +Traxex was a skilled archer in her oppressive underground homeland, the Underdark, until she grew sick of her kin's evil ways and fled to the surface world. As a part of her resolution, she joined the Sentinel, bringing her excellent marksmanship to the fray. Some of her abilities include stripping magical beings of their voices, and enchanting her arrows with an icy cold. While such powers are valuable, her true origin will never cease to linger around in the judging eyes of others. Nowhere is it stated that she is human. I don´t care for the new, legally copyright free lore she got in Dota 2. But even there she isn´t stated to be human, only to be beautiful unlike the ugly troll-like drow(that´s valve drow, not regular drow).
Unless of course "Travelers" or "girl-child" mean "human and definitely not elf".
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On October 05 2012 18:05 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 17:40 LoLAdriankat wrote:On October 05 2012 17:26 Mataza wrote:On October 05 2012 17:08 Tobberoth wrote:On October 05 2012 15:07 BurningSera wrote: Ya i am not sure why drow got shitty items, she is like the easiest hero to design items on her. Elf girl <3 She's not an elf though, she's human. *picky* Drow is to my knowledge a word for dark elf, a subform of elf. Just because her new itemset makes her look like a man doesn´t mean she´s suddenly human. Drow's lore states that she is a human raised by members of the Drow race. I beg to differ + Show Spoiler [actual Lore] +Traxex was a skilled archer in her oppressive underground homeland, the Underdark, until she grew sick of her kin's evil ways and fled to the surface world. As a part of her resolution, she joined the Sentinel, bringing her excellent marksmanship to the fray. Some of her abilities include stripping magical beings of their voices, and enchanting her arrows with an icy cold. While such powers are valuable, her true origin will never cease to linger around in the judging eyes of others. Nowhere is it stated that she is human. I don´t care for the new, legally copyright free lore she got in Dota 2. But even there she isn´t stated to be human, only to be beautiful unlike the ugly troll-like drow(that´s valve drow, not regular drow). Unless of course "Travelers" or "girl-child" mean "human and definitely not elf". It clearly states in the dota 2 lore that she is not a drow. True, it doesn't say in clear text that she is human, but nothing else is mentioned and since it's clearly stated she is NOT a drow, it makes sense to assume she's human since it would probably be written out if she was an elf raised by drows.
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On October 05 2012 18:05 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 17:40 LoLAdriankat wrote:On October 05 2012 17:26 Mataza wrote:On October 05 2012 17:08 Tobberoth wrote:On October 05 2012 15:07 BurningSera wrote: Ya i am not sure why drow got shitty items, she is like the easiest hero to design items on her. Elf girl <3 She's not an elf though, she's human. *picky* Drow is to my knowledge a word for dark elf, a subform of elf. Just because her new itemset makes her look like a man doesn´t mean she´s suddenly human. Drow's lore states that she is a human raised by members of the Drow race. I beg to differ + Show Spoiler [actual Lore] +Traxex was a skilled archer in her oppressive underground homeland, the Underdark, until she grew sick of her kin's evil ways and fled to the surface world. As a part of her resolution, she joined the Sentinel, bringing her excellent marksmanship to the fray. Some of her abilities include stripping magical beings of their voices, and enchanting her arrows with an icy cold. While such powers are valuable, her true origin will never cease to linger around in the judging eyes of others. Nowhere is it stated that she is human. I don´t care for the new, legally copyright free lore she got in Dota 2. But even there she isn´t stated to be human, only to be beautiful unlike the ugly troll-like drow(that´s valve drow, not regular drow). Unless of course "Travelers" or "girl-child" mean "human and definitely not elf".
Ya to me she will always be the drow from wc3 <3
+1 to fck new lore.
Some old drow pic from kunkka <3 + Show Spoiler +
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Phantom Lancer's agi buff feels really nice. Proc Jux far more often, as do illusions. The Q illusion along with the slow buff also seems to get an extra hit
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I don't know how Wizard of the Coast run their licensing but going with the old WC3 lore for this game would certainly be stepping on D&D/Forgotten Realms toes.
By dissociating Drows from Dark Elves in Dota 2 I guess there's your answer about that, too?
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In the past I treated DOTA 2 and LoL the same, with contempt. I was furious when TL decided to move away from a SC2 and cover DOTA 2 also.
I've been playing a lot of DOTA 2 in the last 2 weeks.
It's really good and my opinion has transformed completely.
I was having fun pub-stomping with Lycan and now he's nerfed ;(
In college atm, looking forward to getting home and playing some more!
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On October 05 2012 18:43 murphs wrote: In the past I treated DOTA 2 and LoL the same, with contempt. I was furious when TL decided to move away from a SC2 and cover DOTA 2 also.
I've been playing a lot of DOTA 2 in the last 2 weeks.
It's really good and my opinion has transformed completely.
I was having fun pub-stomping with Lycan and now he's nerfed ;(
In college atm, looking forward to getting home and playing some more!
Welcome to a brighter future my boy!
Edit: Finally I get a win, after a losing streak today. My entire team knew how to play, and so did our opponents. I guess you gotta persevere through the bad games to get good ones once in a while.
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Radiance is so amazing on phantom lancer *_* Clear one wave -> get to clear every camp in the jungle and to clear another wave of the lane while you TP to farm another lane. Pfft at 820 or whatever who says you shouldn't get radi ;o
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On October 05 2012 19:11 Shikyo wrote: Radiance is so amazing on phantom lancer *_* Clear one wave -> get to clear every camp in the jungle and to clear another wave of the lane while you TP to farm another lane. Pfft at 820 or whatever who says you shouldn't get radi ;o
Drum and Diffusal Blade made him a sick mid game hero.
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Lalalaland34505 Posts
On October 05 2012 19:11 Shikyo wrote: Radiance is so amazing on phantom lancer *_* Clear one wave -> get to clear every camp in the jungle and to clear another wave of the lane while you TP to farm another lane. Pfft at 820 or whatever who says you shouldn't get radi ;o Yeah when Shikyo advocates something, who cares what 820 or whatever say!
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On October 05 2012 19:16 Prime`Rib wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 19:11 Shikyo wrote: Radiance is so amazing on phantom lancer *_* Clear one wave -> get to clear every camp in the jungle and to clear another wave of the lane while you TP to farm another lane. Pfft at 820 or whatever who says you shouldn't get radi ;o Drum and Diffusal Blade made him a sick mid game hero. In my opinion if you pick a midgame hero PL is a terrible idea.
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United States47024 Posts
I mean you have to sort of realize the context of those midgame teamfight oriented builds, which is extremely aggressive teamfight heavy games in high level Chinese pubs. If you don't play carries in a way that they can have a presence in that period, your team has a high chance of just getting rolled over. So its either adapt carries in such a way that you can have a midgame presence, or play AM/Morph/Lycan/etc. every game, of which the latter option really isn't all that fun over a lot of games.
Obviously you will get slower pub games where Radiance is appropriate, but I personally think it's more fun to play these more active builds with higher midgame presence than to farm to Radiance + 2-3 items before doing anything.
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On October 05 2012 19:11 Shikyo wrote: Radiance is so amazing on phantom lancer *_* Clear one wave -> get to clear every camp in the jungle and to clear another wave of the lane while you TP to farm another lane. Pfft at 820 or whatever who says you shouldn't get radi ;o
Dude, that's the most traditional way to play pl......
820 never said you should not get radiance, when you add in the fact that everyone knew pl+radiance = strong, you'd have guessed that people will try their best to prevent the pl gets radiance and thus 820 was saying how to make pl more 'useful' during early/midgame. I bet 10pounds that he would go radiance straight away when he is playing against noobs having complete free farm for 15mins etc.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Sometimes the situation calls for it
e.g pubs.
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what if you like hitting creeps a lot though i like to think of dota as a single player rpg with random encounters it's like a final fantasy only in real time RTRPG
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United States47024 Posts
On October 05 2012 19:36 Dead9 wrote: what if you like hitting creeps a lot though i like to think of dota as a single player rpg with random encounters it's like a final fantasy only in real time RTRPG I suppose I shouldn't be surprised given that Shikyo started off playing only PA...
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What is the skill build for Alchemist ?
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On October 05 2012 19:16 Prime`Rib wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 19:11 Shikyo wrote: Radiance is so amazing on phantom lancer *_* Clear one wave -> get to clear every camp in the jungle and to clear another wave of the lane while you TP to farm another lane. Pfft at 820 or whatever who says you shouldn't get radi ;o Drum and Diffusal Blade made him a sick mid game hero. funnily enough, I farm faster with diffu than with radiance. With diffu you need 2illu to clear big camp but that the only problem. You're still very fast and can farm your whole jungle under 40sec.
@blitz, you're supposed to max acid spray then stun then gg. One early point in GG around lvl 4 (i take it at level 1 but thats because i'm a greedy bastard).
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On October 05 2012 19:38 BlitzerSC wrote: What is the skill build for Alchemist ?
depends on your lane and ur role.. If ur being left alone with freefarm might aswell max gold If u however wanna be usefull, max spray/stun and go kill people
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Tbh most of the time its better to max Acid over Gold, given the increased gold cap and how bullshit Acid is at clearing stacked jungle camps, having 4 acid 1 gold 1 stun (for utility) will give you both far more lane presence and faster jungle farm that either 2 acid 4 gold or 1 acid 1 stun 1 gold. The key to alch is learning how to do bullshit jungle stack -> acid clears for infinite money
btw porkie ur quote needs more context, should include firebolt: wow I don't have the most deaths on the team (or whatever he said that prompted me to notice the bug)
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