I really hope he doesn't get hit by the winners slump. Fortunately he seems much more humble than before, especially explaining his genius marketing scheme of overflowing confidence, but the curse of the first trophy remains!

xxpack09

United States2160 Posts

February 20 2011 07:02 GMT

#44

To anyone that says effort was all "cheesy zergling allins"

Watch the effort vs forGG series at the WCG 2010 Ro16. Polaris Rhapsody, Match Point, and ESPECIALLY Fighting Spirit. My favorite series of my favorite player of all time

xxpack09

United States2160 Posts

February 20 2011 07:08 GMT

#45

On February 20 2011 12:31 ]343[ wrote:

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because they're barely even legal adults.

also, filial piety in asian culture etc. etc.

Isn't it also so that their parents can take care of it for them? (save/invest/whatever)

tree.hugger

Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts

February 20 2011 07:27 GMT

#46

EffOrt, Coach Cho, and Hydra. How come there are people who aren't CJ fans?

]343[

United States10328 Posts

February 20 2011 07:40 GMT

#47

On February 20 2011 16:08 xxpack09 wrote:

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Isn't it also so that their parents can take care of it for them? (save/invest/whatever)

I suppose that vaguely falls under the first thing I listed.

moopie

12605 Posts

February 20 2011 09:24 GMT

#48

This interview actually made me a bit of a hydra fan :3

vectorix108

United States4633 Posts

February 20 2011 12:18 GMT

#49

Thanks for translating. Awesome to see hydra win.

Subversive

Australia2229 Posts

February 20 2011 12:35 GMT

#50

On February 20 2011 01:08 darktreb wrote:

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I don't understand this. Did you know that Effort was almost undefeated in ZvP and ZvT (minus Flash) for like an 8 month period in 2009, and even then his only major losses in ZvZ were to Jaedong and during Calm's MSL run? He dropped off at the beginning of 2010 before ninja-ing a Starleague against Flash in which he came back from 0-2.

It's ridiculous that because Effort's title came after a short period of time when he was slumping (and after that infamous tiebreaker) that people forget he was INSANELY good in 2009, a period of time in which he was the favorite against everyone other than Flash and Jaedong and even then knocked Jaedong out of GSL (BW edition) S3 and beat Flash in a PL ace match. Hydra's current run, while very impressive (and I'm a huge fan of him), pales in comparison to what Effort did for much longer in 2009. It's just that Hydra's run also coincided with him taking a title, while Effort took his title later than his best sustained run. I think Hydra will continue to be really good and is a legitimate threat in any league (just like Effort always has been) but as of right now if anything it's too early to call Hydra Effort 2.0 yet.

I agree wholeheartedly. The Effort I'll remember is the amazing 3rd best in the world, a contender against JD, Flash and a favourite against almost everyone else. He was so good in 2009 and so super cute in interviews and photo shoots. A really nice guy overall and a great player who should be remembered for his entire career, not just the tail-end of it.

Jackal03

Brazil7469 Posts

February 20 2011 16:53 GMT

#51

On February 20 2011 16:27 tree.hugger wrote:
EffOrt, Coach Cho, and Hydra. How come there are people who aren't CJ fans?

i'll never know

Megaliskuu

United States5123 Posts

February 20 2011 19:58 GMT

#52

On February 19 2011 23:37 FirstProbe wrote:
I get the feeling that a number of people think Hydra is Effort 2.0. Personally, I've always found Effort to be super cheesy, heavily ling reliant, and a lucky Starleague winner. Hydra plays much better imo, and I suspect he'll be a force to reckon with.

You really can't be serious, he carried CJ through proleague for a long time, did well in individual leagues, was the third best player in the world for an extended period of time, and constantly beat flash when no one else could.

jalstar

United States8198 Posts

February 21 2011 00:55 GMT

#53

On February 20 2011 16:02 xxpack09 wrote:
To anyone that says effort was all "cheesy zergling allins"

Watch the effort vs forGG series at the WCG 2010 Ro16. Polaris Rhapsody, Match Point, and ESPECIALLY Fighting Spirit. My favorite series of my favorite player of all time

The Match Point one was hilarious, apparently drones counter marines when Effort's microing them.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=163927

I think I listed a good amount of Effort's best games in this thread, and Harem posted a few more a couple of posts down.

MangoTango

United States3670 Posts

February 21 2011 01:25 GMT

#54

Congrats to Hydra! Nice to see Effort there, cheering on his old teammate/protegee.

JiYan

United States3668 Posts

February 21 2011 01:31 GMT

#55

money given to parents isnt usually for personal investment. its out of respect to the people who gave you life and raised you.

Furycrab

Canada456 Posts

February 21 2011 20:07 GMT

#56

From what we know, you have practiced for a very long time in the B team .
▲ The team house for B team is separated from the main team and its facility is alot poorer so it was difficult to practice in. When I was in the B team I thought to myself that I must survive here, and practice more than anyone else. I feel like, not just our team, but other teams should also keep the B team system.

This part I didn't get... is he scared the houses will shut down the B teams?

What are you gonna do with the prize money?
▲ I'm going to treat my team to a banquet, and then the rest I'll give to my parents.

I'm still waiting for the day a big esport winner is going to go VEGAS BABY! (Or at least a big Starcraft player... if a Halo player did that in the past... doesn't count.)

=)

Thx for the translation.

stk01001

United States786 Posts

February 21 2011 20:20 GMT

#57

On February 19 2011 22:19 themonkyguy wrote:
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- Anything else you wish to say?
▲ It seemed that everyone were not very excited about a ZvZ final, that's why I trash talked (Z)

great alot during the pre-match interview. I don't know whether I hurt his feelings or not, and I want to use this opportunity to apologize to him. Also I want to thank my teammates who helped me practice, as well as all my relatives who came from a long way away just to cheer for me.

wow... what an upstanding and gracious guy.. also very modest, his is the type of attitude all progamers should strive toward..

imperfect

Canada1652 Posts

February 22 2011 01:01 GMT

#58

congratulations to hydra!! worthy winner I think, especially after taking down Jaedong the way he did.

CJ and Zergs.. what's with them?

Aquafresh

United States824 Posts

February 22 2011 03:38 GMT

#59

On February 22 2011 10:01 imperfect wrote:
congratulations to hydra!! worthy winner I think, especially after taking down Jaedong the way he did.

CJ and Zergs.. what's with them?

My theory is there's really only one true CJ zerg, and he keeps inhabiting the bodies of whomever he feels like. He had a good run with Savior, switched over to Effort cause he was attracted to his alien physique, and then moved on to Hydra for reasons unknown. Effort retired in his prime because he knew the CJ zerg spirit had found a new favorite. He saw what happened to Savior.

meegrean

Thailand7699 Posts

February 23 2011 07:13 GMT

#60

Hydra is good. Let's hope he can win another title!