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On August 29 2007 03:00 lastshadow wrote:
I want to state 2 things.
a) I just sent her a message basically telling her I don't want to like her anymore. You (TL.net) has shown me little things about that conversation that I was too tunnel visioned to see. So we'll see where that goes.
b) Like I said that conversation proceeds... she tells me she likes me alot etc, and I did say alot of this over the phone about 2 days ago, and she was interested in it. However... I don't know TL.net I want to be with her so badly, but it seems like she doesn't give a shit, BUT says that she really does.
Don't believe a word, she might actually want to believe it herself but most likely doesn't. You see the thing about these types of females are is that their insecure of being alone. They want to be at least with one person at all times if they could help it.
By not having you tell her off and leave her she'd be at point blank. She wants to at least have you in her life until she gets on with the new boy. So she can transition herself from one person to another. You seriously don't need this, you're being thrown around and you should know better of it, just call it off and go find someone who's love will reciprocate your feelings.
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I wonder if this chick is posting on a girlz only forumz, doing the complete opposite...
"so theres this dude who's completely obsessed with me...."
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To bad I came into this thread so late. Reminds me of when I was like 16, I used to be so obsessed with this girl but I just couldn't work up the balls to tell her I liked her. Even when I knew she liked me. But I missed my chance and she soon moved on. Long story short, I spent like a year of my life trying to get with this chick that I could of sworn "I loved" but looking back on it. I really didn't. I was just a lonely moron who wanted her and nothing else.
People that young don't understand their feelings. Its just that plain and simple.
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Girls don't like assholes. Girls go out with men who ask them out, without being timid or apologetic.
Assholes, coincidentally, are good at this. They don't care who they offend, so they ask a lot of girls out, while all of the "nice guys" are staring at the floor worrying about whether they'd be bothering a girl if they talk to her. They ask girls out when they're going out with other girls, they ask girls out when they have boyfriends, etc.
If you want to be more successful with women, don't be a dick, just be more forward and honest to yourself about what you want. If you want a girl, ask her out. If you want a girl for a girlfriend, don't treat her as a friend - that's establishing a dishonest relationship and it's unfair to her and yourself.
Don't commit yourself to a girl who hasn't committed herself to you. Don't treat something new and uncertain or casual as something serious, and never assume a girl is in a serious relationship just because she has a boyfriend. If it's not serious, there's no commitment, and you're not doing anything wrong by exploring other options.
If you shy away from girls, or ask for dates like you're begging for a favor, of course you're not going to go out much. You're probably going to pay for the date, and at the very least you're the one who's taking the initiative to try and relieve some of the boredom in your lives, so really it's you who's offering her a favor, and if she doesn't want it, it's her loss. Act like it.
If you have no experience or low confidence, don't ask girls out who you look up to. Asking for a date is not proposing marriage. Go out with girls you know you won't stay with. It's good clean fun. Ask girls out who probably won't say no, have a good time, make sure they have a good time, and learn to be comfortable and natural through experience. Girls will talk to each other about how you treat them, and you can get a reputation as a fun date, making it even easier. Some girls won't go out with anyone who hasn't built up a reputation like that.
Don't be a dick. Don't exaggerate your feelings. Don't lead them on. Don't get them in trouble. Don't brag about whatever happens, especially if it didn't actually happen. None of that stuff is necessary. Be honest about being casual and just looking for some fun.
But don't always give up at the first obstacle. "I have a boyfriend." is not the same thing as an outright "No." and even "No." sometimes means "I can be convinced. Tell me more." or "Ask me later." Girls like a little persistence, it can be flattering to be pursued.
Don't overdo it. "Stop bothering me." does mean "Stop bothering me." Don't follow girls around, or hang around near them while you build up your courage to ask - your hesitation gives the message that you've got something in mind for her that you're not sure she'd like. It's creepy and frightening.
Women like nice guys. Women have little use for timid guys, and rightly distrust inexperienced guys who think they want something serious. Saying that women prefer assholes is a way of blaming your virtues for your problems, and making excuses for yourself so you don't have to grow.
Parents used to teach their kids this stuff. I don't know what happened. TV replaced family conversation? Fiction is a lousy way to learn about life.
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On August 28 2007 22:54 Smurg wrote:
Just say what I say to all women.
Te suka.
Hehe that means similar in hungarian too. Only we write it like "Te szuka"  Similar like kurva :D ( I believe polish friends understand this too )
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
i wouldn't post internet convos of your friend on massive websites where tons of ppl could read it... including himself.
imagine his face if he were to see this thread. your an idiot.
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On August 29 2007 03:16 Hawk wrote:
I wonder if this chick is posting on a girlz only forumz, doing the complete opposite...
"so theres this dude who's completely obsessed with me...."
LOL
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On August 28 2007 17:04 lastshadow wrote:
TheeMiz: all he fucking says is
TheeMiz: "i'd fuck her"
TheeMiz: and it disgusts me
TheeMiz: he tells me he doesn't like you
TheeMiz: but he'd fuck you
TheeMiz: wtf is that
DID YOU JUST FUCKING SELL ME OUT!?
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On August 29 2007 03:36 MyLostTemple wrote:
i wouldn't post internet convos of your friend on massive websites where tons of ppl could read it... including himself.
imagine his face if he were to see this thread. your an idiot.
Yea i bet john is hunting around the internet for random conversations posted in starcraft forums with his first name in them.
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Why was this over online? True feelings are expressed presonally
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On August 29 2007 03:00 lastshadow wrote:
I want to state 2 things.
a) I just sent her a message basically telling her I don't want to like her anymore. You (TL.net) has shown me little things about that conversation that I was too tunnel visioned to see. So we'll see where that goes.
b) Like I said that conversation proceeds... she tells me she likes me alot etc, and I did say alot of this over the phone about 2 days ago, and she was interested in it. However... I don't know TL.net I want to be with her so badly, but it seems like she doesn't give a shit, BUT says that she really does.
stop dumping your feelings and conclusions on this girl. don't send her messages about how you dont wanna like her anymore and how its gonna be hard but you've made up your mind blaaaaah blaaaah blaaaaah
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testpat
United States565 Posts
On August 29 2007 03:00 lastshadow wrote:
I want to state 2 things.
a) I just sent her a message basically telling her I don't want to like her anymore. You (TL.net) has shown me little things about that conversation that I was too tunnel visioned to see. So we'll see where that goes.
b) Like I said that conversation proceeds... she tells me she likes me alot etc, and I did say alot of this over the phone about 2 days ago, and she was interested in it. However... I don't know TL.net I want to be with her so badly, but it seems like she doesn't give a shit, BUT says that she really does.
You are fucked. You are not listening. This one is over, chalk it up as a lesson.
That tirade you started with said pressure, desperate, whiny, and clingy. To top it off, you badmouthed a friend. You can't guilt a girl into loving you. These are not qualities women look for in a boyfriend.
At this point, she is trying to salvage a relationship .... with you as a friend. You are not - so at best you'll become her puppy bitch, following her around giving her free love to validate herself. While having female friends is nice, you are in no position to appreciate her in this way.
Back off from her. Ask anyone else out & don't talk about her with them. Don't make plans with her, don't initiate aim conversations. If she does, say hi and tell her your busy. A month or two from now (and with another girl or two) you'll have a better perspective, as will she. If you are still interested in her at this time ask her out on a real date.
It may seem like a lot of the advice here is harsh - but its just most of us reliving our first major crushes, cringing as we see you go through the same ordeal. For myself, every girl i tried to hold on tightly as she pulled away never came back. A few of the ones that I let go did.
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is awesome32274 Posts
On August 29 2007 02:45 Jathin wrote:
HE WAS A BOY, SHE WAS A GIRL. COULD I MAKE IT ANY MORE OBVIOUS???
HEY HEY YOU YOU I DONT LIKE YOUR GIRLFRIEND
NO WAY NO WAY I THINK YOU NEED A NEW ONE 
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On August 29 2007 04:36 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2007 02:45 Jathin wrote:
HE WAS A BOY, SHE WAS A GIRL. COULD I MAKE IT ANY MORE OBVIOUS??? HEY HEY YOU YOU I DONT LIKE YOUR GIRLFRIEND NO WAY NO WAY I THINK YOU NEED A NEW ONE
now can you sing that in 15 languages like her?
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On August 29 2007 04:38 lastshadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2007 04:36 IntoTheWow wrote:On August 29 2007 02:45 Jathin wrote:
HE WAS A BOY, SHE WAS A GIRL. COULD I MAKE IT ANY MORE OBVIOUS??? HEY HEY YOU YOU I DONT LIKE YOUR GIRLFRIEND NO WAY NO WAY I THINK YOU NEED A NEW ONE now can you sing that in 15 languages like her?
she could sing it in 150 languages and it would still suck as bad as the english version
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On August 29 2007 04:38 lastshadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2007 04:36 IntoTheWow wrote:On August 29 2007 02:45 Jathin wrote:
HE WAS A BOY, SHE WAS A GIRL. COULD I MAKE IT ANY MORE OBVIOUS??? HEY HEY YOU YOU I DONT LIKE YOUR GIRLFRIEND NO WAY NO WAY I THINK YOU NEED A NEW ONE now can you sing that in 15 languages like her?
It would be a challenge to pronounce them all so poorly.
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On August 29 2007 03:27 Funchucks wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Girls don't like assholes. Girls go out with men who ask them out, without being timid or apologetic.
Assholes, coincidentally, are good at this. They don't care who they offend, so they ask a lot of girls out, while all of the "nice guys" are staring at the floor worrying about whether they'd be bothering a girl if they talk to her. They ask girls out when they're going out with other girls, they ask girls out when they have boyfriends, etc.
If you want to be more successful with women, don't be a dick, just be more forward and honest to yourself about what you want. If you want a girl, ask her out. If you want a girl for a girlfriend, don't treat her as a friend - that's establishing a dishonest relationship and it's unfair to her and yourself.
Don't commit yourself to a girl who hasn't committed herself to you. Don't treat something new and uncertain or casual as something serious, and never assume a girl is in a serious relationship just because she has a boyfriend. If it's not serious, there's no commitment, and you're not doing anything wrong by exploring other options.
If you shy away from girls, or ask for dates like you're begging for a favor, of course you're not going to go out much. You're probably going to pay for the date, and at the very least you're the one who's taking the initiative to try and relieve some of the boredom in your lives, so really it's you who's offering her a favor, and if she doesn't want it, it's her loss. Act like it.
If you have no experience or low confidence, don't ask girls out who you look up to. Asking for a date is not proposing marriage. Go out with girls you know you won't stay with. It's good clean fun. Ask girls out who probably won't say no, have a good time, make sure they have a good time, and learn to be comfortable and natural through experience. Girls will talk to each other about how you treat them, and you can get a reputation as a fun date, making it even easier. Some girls won't go out with anyone who hasn't built up a reputation like that.
Don't be a dick. Don't exaggerate your feelings. Don't lead them on. Don't get them in trouble. Don't brag about whatever happens, especially if it didn't actually happen. None of that stuff is necessary. Be honest about being casual and just looking for some fun.
But don't always give up at the first obstacle. "I have a boyfriend." is not the same thing as an outright "No." and even "No." sometimes means "I can be convinced. Tell me more." or "Ask me later." Girls like a little persistence, it can be flattering to be pursued.
Don't overdo it. "Stop bothering me." does mean "Stop bothering me." Don't follow girls around, or hang around near them while you build up your courage to ask - your hesitation gives the message that you've got something in mind for her that you're not sure she'd like. It's creepy and frightening.
Women like nice guys. Women have little use for timid guys, and rightly distrust inexperienced guys who think they want something serious. Saying that women prefer assholes is a way of blaming your virtues for your problems, and making excuses for yourself so you don't have to grow.
Parents used to teach their kids this stuff. I don't know what happened. TV replaced family conversation? Fiction is a lousy way to learn about life.
Im drunk but.. QFT
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Belgium6771 Posts
On August 29 2007 04:25 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Ugh drama...
wait didnt you have an internetgf who you emailed about 'do you still love me' after not seeing her for like 6 months? =P
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On August 29 2007 04:49 Xeofreestyler wrote:wait didnt you have an internetgf who you emailed about 'do you still love me' after not seeing her for like 6 months? =P
LOL
but can we please stay on topic
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