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On October 15 2014 23:33 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 23:33 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:32 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:31 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:30 Shellshock wrote:On October 15 2014 23:29 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:28 Shellshock wrote:On October 15 2014 23:27 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:26 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:25 GumBa wrote:
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Don't ever listen to the cast when JD plays if you dont want bias which players are caster most biased about? Scarlett and JD imo bomber polt taeja False and you know it. Unless those are ranks 3-5. And a lot of casters don't like Bomber it was in addition to the first 2 names. red bull washington finals were unbearable Oh yeah true. That was also because everyone ignored Cure the entire event for some reason. I think it was cure vs Scarlett where I ignored the thread and turned off the cast Smart decision mate. Was plain disgusting
it wasn't really that bad. What part of it made you want to turn it off? They did a pretty good job of equally showing what both players were doing
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On October 15 2014 23:33 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 23:32 Darkdwarf wrote:On October 15 2014 23:20 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:17 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:16 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:14 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:13 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:11 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:10 Sakat wrote:
Well, I guess, since I won't be posting any pictures, I might as well write an extremely long and tiresome post that no one will bother to read and no one will notice how stupid I actually am. So, here it goes.
Blizzcon chances estimated by a bronze league scrub who only started playing this game in January:
1. Zest - Pretty consistent in the hardest region with occasional losses to equally good players... and TRUE. Hopefully he emerges the way he should have done in the GSL last season. Winning it.
2. herO - herO has a pretty easy bracket. aside from Bomber, no one should pose a real threat to him. He could also be cheesed out of the tournament by MC. I hope that happens, I don't really like him
3. Innovation - Provided that he doesn't lose to soO in the second round, or Zest in the semis, he could beat both Bomber and herO. I think...
4. Bomber - looking amazing right now. Or I'm just stupid. Jaedong should not be a threat. MMA or Stardust also.
5. soO - If It weren't for the Kong aspect of the past year, I would have put him first. Alas...
6. Taeja - If his wrists don't die, and soO goes all Kespa cup on his backside he could get to the finals. He did beat both Zest and Innovation before.
7. Polt - used to be Sir Polt of Terran - If he can keep it up, he'll get beaten by Bomber in the semis, right after he snipes 6 or so Medivacs full of units just because Bomber will make 56 Marines at a time an remax in 2 minutes.
8. Life - Bad Luck Life, facing Zest in the first round. Maybe, just maybe, he can make it.
9. MMA - actually my darkhorse for the tournament. I don't know... if somehow JD beats Bomber...
10. Hyun - Impresive level of consistency, but in a much weaker region. I don't think he gets past Inno.
11. Classic - Not sure about him, Haven't seen many of his games since season 2. And, he didn't impress me all that much eve though he won. I think soO just choked.
12. Stardust - May Cheesetoss cheese his way to the finals and win it all!!!
13. Jaedong - He promised guys, he promised...
14. San - Bad bracket luck. ro.8 tops
15. jjakji - Never going to leave the ro.16
16. MC - if he decides to play dirty and cheese - he could beat herO - who doesn't scout very often. sOs style. Otherwise, not taking a map.
So, that was my extensive, and yet extremely boring and stupid anal-sis of winning chances for all participants. Hope you didn't loose your hype after reading this
Nice post. I think you underestimate the inconsistency of this game though. Every player has a real chance (1%+) of winning the whole thing and at least a 25% chance of making it past the first round How do you mean? I don't get it Well, every player here qualified by doing well at some point except maybe Jaedong. Therefore, they definitely have the ability to upset others. OK, I get it. But I somehow don't find it possible for say, jjakji to upset San, Zest/Life, soO, Innovation... all in one tournament. sOs did that last year I watched last years Blizzcon, but that was the first tournament I watched. but I'd say, from what I heard form the casters that he upset just Bomber and Jaedong. That he was at least slightly favored against HerO and Polt. I'm probably wrong though. sOs winning BlizzCon shouldn't have been a surprise or upset. He had a the highest winrate in Proleague last year and the fourth most wins total; got to a semi in GSL and the final of S1; as well as a few other pretty good results throughtout the year. I know that.. But was he seriously considered an underdog against Jaedong?
No. Everyone just wanked off to Jaedong though so it seemed like it
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On October 15 2014 23:33 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 23:32 Darkdwarf wrote:On October 15 2014 23:20 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:17 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:16 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:14 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:13 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:11 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:10 Sakat wrote:
Well, I guess, since I won't be posting any pictures, I might as well write an extremely long and tiresome post that no one will bother to read and no one will notice how stupid I actually am. So, here it goes.
Blizzcon chances estimated by a bronze league scrub who only started playing this game in January:
1. Zest - Pretty consistent in the hardest region with occasional losses to equally good players... and TRUE. Hopefully he emerges the way he should have done in the GSL last season. Winning it.
2. herO - herO has a pretty easy bracket. aside from Bomber, no one should pose a real threat to him. He could also be cheesed out of the tournament by MC. I hope that happens, I don't really like him
3. Innovation - Provided that he doesn't lose to soO in the second round, or Zest in the semis, he could beat both Bomber and herO. I think...
4. Bomber - looking amazing right now. Or I'm just stupid. Jaedong should not be a threat. MMA or Stardust also.
5. soO - If It weren't for the Kong aspect of the past year, I would have put him first. Alas...
6. Taeja - If his wrists don't die, and soO goes all Kespa cup on his backside he could get to the finals. He did beat both Zest and Innovation before.
7. Polt - used to be Sir Polt of Terran - If he can keep it up, he'll get beaten by Bomber in the semis, right after he snipes 6 or so Medivacs full of units just because Bomber will make 56 Marines at a time an remax in 2 minutes.
8. Life - Bad Luck Life, facing Zest in the first round. Maybe, just maybe, he can make it.
9. MMA - actually my darkhorse for the tournament. I don't know... if somehow JD beats Bomber...
10. Hyun - Impresive level of consistency, but in a much weaker region. I don't think he gets past Inno.
11. Classic - Not sure about him, Haven't seen many of his games since season 2. And, he didn't impress me all that much eve though he won. I think soO just choked.
12. Stardust - May Cheesetoss cheese his way to the finals and win it all!!!
13. Jaedong - He promised guys, he promised...
14. San - Bad bracket luck. ro.8 tops
15. jjakji - Never going to leave the ro.16
16. MC - if he decides to play dirty and cheese - he could beat herO - who doesn't scout very often. sOs style. Otherwise, not taking a map.
So, that was my extensive, and yet extremely boring and stupid anal-sis of winning chances for all participants. Hope you didn't loose your hype after reading this
Nice post. I think you underestimate the inconsistency of this game though. Every player has a real chance (1%+) of winning the whole thing and at least a 25% chance of making it past the first round How do you mean? I don't get it Well, every player here qualified by doing well at some point except maybe Jaedong. Therefore, they definitely have the ability to upset others. OK, I get it. But I somehow don't find it possible for say, jjakji to upset San, Zest/Life, soO, Innovation... all in one tournament. sOs did that last year I watched last years Blizzcon, but that was the first tournament I watched. but I'd say, from what I heard form the casters that he upset just Bomber and Jaedong. That he was at least slightly favored against HerO and Polt. I'm probably wrong though. sOs winning BlizzCon shouldn't have been a surprise or upset. He had a the highest winrate in Proleague last year and the fourth most wins total; got to a semi in GSL and the final of S1; as well as a few other pretty good results throughtout the year. I know that.. But was he seriously considered an underdog against Jaedong?
In my opinion Jaedong was an underdog to everyone he faced except Mvp. That's why people hype up his run so much, nobody expected him to beat Dear and Maru. I still can't believe Maru lost that series...so bad
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On October 15 2014 23:21 GumBa wrote:
Imo sOs upset no one. Just fans were salty
God Gumba, you are so bad at trolling.
Also nice one y0su :p forgot the piano story
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On October 15 2014 23:34 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 23:33 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:33 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:32 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:31 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:30 Shellshock wrote:On October 15 2014 23:29 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:28 Shellshock wrote:On October 15 2014 23:27 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:26 Sakat wrote:
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which players are caster most biased about?
Scarlett and JD imo bomber polt taeja False and you know it. Unless those are ranks 3-5. And a lot of casters don't like Bomber it was in addition to the first 2 names. red bull washington finals were unbearable Oh yeah true. That was also because everyone ignored Cure the entire event for some reason. I think it was cure vs Scarlett where I ignored the thread and turned off the cast Smart decision mate. Was plain disgusting Who won?
Nobody really
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On October 15 2014 23:33 Sakat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 23:32 Darkdwarf wrote:On October 15 2014 23:20 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:17 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:16 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:14 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:13 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:11 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:10 Sakat wrote:
Well, I guess, since I won't be posting any pictures, I might as well write an extremely long and tiresome post that no one will bother to read and no one will notice how stupid I actually am. So, here it goes.
Blizzcon chances estimated by a bronze league scrub who only started playing this game in January:
1. Zest - Pretty consistent in the hardest region with occasional losses to equally good players... and TRUE. Hopefully he emerges the way he should have done in the GSL last season. Winning it.
2. herO - herO has a pretty easy bracket. aside from Bomber, no one should pose a real threat to him. He could also be cheesed out of the tournament by MC. I hope that happens, I don't really like him
3. Innovation - Provided that he doesn't lose to soO in the second round, or Zest in the semis, he could beat both Bomber and herO. I think...
4. Bomber - looking amazing right now. Or I'm just stupid. Jaedong should not be a threat. MMA or Stardust also.
5. soO - If It weren't for the Kong aspect of the past year, I would have put him first. Alas...
6. Taeja - If his wrists don't die, and soO goes all Kespa cup on his backside he could get to the finals. He did beat both Zest and Innovation before.
7. Polt - used to be Sir Polt of Terran - If he can keep it up, he'll get beaten by Bomber in the semis, right after he snipes 6 or so Medivacs full of units just because Bomber will make 56 Marines at a time an remax in 2 minutes.
8. Life - Bad Luck Life, facing Zest in the first round. Maybe, just maybe, he can make it.
9. MMA - actually my darkhorse for the tournament. I don't know... if somehow JD beats Bomber...
10. Hyun - Impresive level of consistency, but in a much weaker region. I don't think he gets past Inno.
11. Classic - Not sure about him, Haven't seen many of his games since season 2. And, he didn't impress me all that much eve though he won. I think soO just choked.
12. Stardust - May Cheesetoss cheese his way to the finals and win it all!!!
13. Jaedong - He promised guys, he promised...
14. San - Bad bracket luck. ro.8 tops
15. jjakji - Never going to leave the ro.16
16. MC - if he decides to play dirty and cheese - he could beat herO - who doesn't scout very often. sOs style. Otherwise, not taking a map.
So, that was my extensive, and yet extremely boring and stupid anal-sis of winning chances for all participants. Hope you didn't loose your hype after reading this
Nice post. I think you underestimate the inconsistency of this game though. Every player has a real chance (1%+) of winning the whole thing and at least a 25% chance of making it past the first round How do you mean? I don't get it Well, every player here qualified by doing well at some point except maybe Jaedong. Therefore, they definitely have the ability to upset others. OK, I get it. But I somehow don't find it possible for say, jjakji to upset San, Zest/Life, soO, Innovation... all in one tournament. sOs did that last year I watched last years Blizzcon, but that was the first tournament I watched. but I'd say, from what I heard form the casters that he upset just Bomber and Jaedong. That he was at least slightly favored against HerO and Polt. I'm probably wrong though. sOs winning BlizzCon shouldn't have been a surprise or upset. He had a the highest winrate in Proleague last year and the fourth most wins total; got to a semi in GSL and the final of S1; as well as a few other pretty good results throughtout the year. I know that.. But was he seriously considered an underdog against Jaedong?
if you didn't take into account what made sOs sOs, then yes
the important thing is that this doesn't actually make any sense
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On October 15 2014 23:34 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 23:33 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:33 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:32 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:31 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:30 Shellshock wrote:On October 15 2014 23:29 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:28 Shellshock wrote:On October 15 2014 23:27 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:26 Sakat wrote:
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which players are caster most biased about?
Scarlett and JD imo bomber polt taeja False and you know it. Unless those are ranks 3-5. And a lot of casters don't like Bomber it was in addition to the first 2 names. red bull washington finals were unbearable Oh yeah true. That was also because everyone ignored Cure the entire event for some reason. I think it was cure vs Scarlett where I ignored the thread and turned off the cast Smart decision mate. Was plain disgusting it wasn't really that bad. What part of it made you want to turn it off? They did a pretty good job of equally showing what both players were doing
Just bias in the thread as well. It might have not been as bad but I didn't really stick around
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OH. Nathanias is casting. No wonder it was super biased.
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Jaedong looked dominant against Maru, and that last game against Dear was so good I for a second thought he was cheating lol
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And the other is Day[9]. Yeaaaah it's not objective.
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On October 15 2014 23:32 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 23:31 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:30 Shellshock wrote:On October 15 2014 23:29 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:28 Shellshock wrote:On October 15 2014 23:27 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:26 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:25 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:23 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:21 The_Templar wrote:[quote] Actually, that might have been because the casters were Bomber/Jaedong biased  I find it funny how biased they can be about Jaedong sometimes. I got the picture he did really well in 2013. but this year he is just bad. considering where he should be Don't ever listen to the cast when JD plays if you dont want bias which players are caster most biased about? Scarlett and JD imo bomber polt taeja False and you know it. Unless those are ranks 3-5. And a lot of casters don't like Bomber it was in addition to the first 2 names. red bull washington finals were unbearable Oh yeah true. That was also because everyone ignored Cure the entire event for some reason. I think it was cure vs Scarlett where I ignored the thread and turned off the cast
"Scarlett is playing so well" --> loses
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On October 15 2014 23:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 23:24 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:23 dangthatsright wrote:On October 15 2014 23:22 JamesT wrote:On October 15 2014 23:16 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:15 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On October 15 2014 23:14 IntoTheheart wrote:On October 15 2014 23:13 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:12 IntoTheheart wrote:On October 15 2014 23:12 The_Templar wrote:
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Why is being a college student not having a life? Because your entire "life" is class and bridge at the country club. -_- I compose music too OH GOD even more aristocratic. Dude doesn't drink because he's too busy smoking Cuban cigars and yelling at servants This post is wrong in four ways. Impressive I'm going to try to guess, drinks, not busy, doesn't smoke Cuban cigars, and doesn't yell at servants replace cigars with dude imo Templar smokes dudes? No, I already asked him
To be honest, when playing PvT and storming marines. They kind of smokes dudes...
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On October 15 2014 23:35 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 23:21 GumBa wrote:
Imo sOs upset no one. Just fans were salty God Gumba, you are so bad at trolling. Also nice one y0su :p forgot the piano story
I am not trolling. sOs had a great year and was favoured vs HerO and equal woth Polt bomber and JD and equal or favoured to JD
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So we don't actually know who is casting for Blizzcon yet? I assume it'll probably just be the WCS AM guys for the Ro16 since it's at their studio right?
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On October 15 2014 23:35 dangthatsright wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 23:33 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:32 Darkdwarf wrote:On October 15 2014 23:20 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:17 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:16 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:14 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:13 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:11 The_Templar wrote:On October 15 2014 23:10 Sakat wrote:
Well, I guess, since I won't be posting any pictures, I might as well write an extremely long and tiresome post that no one will bother to read and no one will notice how stupid I actually am. So, here it goes.
Blizzcon chances estimated by a bronze league scrub who only started playing this game in January:
1. Zest - Pretty consistent in the hardest region with occasional losses to equally good players... and TRUE. Hopefully he emerges the way he should have done in the GSL last season. Winning it.
2. herO - herO has a pretty easy bracket. aside from Bomber, no one should pose a real threat to him. He could also be cheesed out of the tournament by MC. I hope that happens, I don't really like him
3. Innovation - Provided that he doesn't lose to soO in the second round, or Zest in the semis, he could beat both Bomber and herO. I think...
4. Bomber - looking amazing right now. Or I'm just stupid. Jaedong should not be a threat. MMA or Stardust also.
5. soO - If It weren't for the Kong aspect of the past year, I would have put him first. Alas...
6. Taeja - If his wrists don't die, and soO goes all Kespa cup on his backside he could get to the finals. He did beat both Zest and Innovation before.
7. Polt - used to be Sir Polt of Terran - If he can keep it up, he'll get beaten by Bomber in the semis, right after he snipes 6 or so Medivacs full of units just because Bomber will make 56 Marines at a time an remax in 2 minutes.
8. Life - Bad Luck Life, facing Zest in the first round. Maybe, just maybe, he can make it.
9. MMA - actually my darkhorse for the tournament. I don't know... if somehow JD beats Bomber...
10. Hyun - Impresive level of consistency, but in a much weaker region. I don't think he gets past Inno.
11. Classic - Not sure about him, Haven't seen many of his games since season 2. And, he didn't impress me all that much eve though he won. I think soO just choked.
12. Stardust - May Cheesetoss cheese his way to the finals and win it all!!!
13. Jaedong - He promised guys, he promised...
14. San - Bad bracket luck. ro.8 tops
15. jjakji - Never going to leave the ro.16
16. MC - if he decides to play dirty and cheese - he could beat herO - who doesn't scout very often. sOs style. Otherwise, not taking a map.
So, that was my extensive, and yet extremely boring and stupid anal-sis of winning chances for all participants. Hope you didn't loose your hype after reading this
Nice post. I think you underestimate the inconsistency of this game though. Every player has a real chance (1%+) of winning the whole thing and at least a 25% chance of making it past the first round How do you mean? I don't get it Well, every player here qualified by doing well at some point except maybe Jaedong. Therefore, they definitely have the ability to upset others. OK, I get it. But I somehow don't find it possible for say, jjakji to upset San, Zest/Life, soO, Innovation... all in one tournament. sOs did that last year I watched last years Blizzcon, but that was the first tournament I watched. but I'd say, from what I heard form the casters that he upset just Bomber and Jaedong. That he was at least slightly favored against HerO and Polt. I'm probably wrong though. sOs winning BlizzCon shouldn't have been a surprise or upset. He had a the highest winrate in Proleague last year and the fourth most wins total; got to a semi in GSL and the final of S1; as well as a few other pretty good results throughtout the year. I know that.. But was he seriously considered an underdog against Jaedong? if you didn't take into account what made sOs sOs, then yes the important thing is that this doesn't actually make any sense
Why doesn't it?
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On October 15 2014 23:37 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 23:32 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:31 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:30 Shellshock wrote:On October 15 2014 23:29 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:28 Shellshock wrote:On October 15 2014 23:27 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:26 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:25 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:23 Sakat wrote:
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I find it funny how biased they can be about Jaedong sometimes. I got the picture he did really well in 2013. but this year he is just bad. considering where he should be Don't ever listen to the cast when JD plays if you dont want bias which players are caster most biased about? Scarlett and JD imo bomber polt taeja False and you know it. Unless those are ranks 3-5. And a lot of casters don't like Bomber it was in addition to the first 2 names. red bull washington finals were unbearable Oh yeah true. That was also because everyone ignored Cure the entire event for some reason. I think it was cure vs Scarlett where I ignored the thread and turned off the cast "Scarlett is playing so well" --> loses
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On October 15 2014 23:38 Shellshock wrote:
So we don't actually know who is casting for Blizzcon yet? I assume it'll probably just be the WCS AM guys for the Ro16 since it's at their studio right?
On the other hand it's owned by ESL so it could be anyone (except Kaelaris - he never gets invited to anything but IEM).
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On October 15 2014 23:37 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 23:32 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:31 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:30 Shellshock wrote:On October 15 2014 23:29 Yorkie wrote:On October 15 2014 23:28 Shellshock wrote:On October 15 2014 23:27 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:26 Sakat wrote:On October 15 2014 23:25 GumBa wrote:On October 15 2014 23:23 Sakat wrote:
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I find it funny how biased they can be about Jaedong sometimes. I got the picture he did really well in 2013. but this year he is just bad. considering where he should be Don't ever listen to the cast when JD plays if you dont want bias which players are caster most biased about? Scarlett and JD imo bomber polt taeja False and you know it. Unless those are ranks 3-5. And a lot of casters don't like Bomber it was in addition to the first 2 names. red bull washington finals were unbearable Oh yeah true. That was also because everyone ignored Cure the entire event for some reason. I think it was cure vs Scarlett where I ignored the thread and turned off the cast "Scarlett is playing so well" --> loses
Playing so well doesn't mean the other person can't be playing better
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On October 15 2014 23:38 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 23:35 FFW_Rude wrote:On October 15 2014 23:21 GumBa wrote:
Imo sOs upset no one. Just fans were salty God Gumba, you are so bad at trolling. Also nice one y0su :p forgot the piano story I am not trolling. sOs had a great year and was favoured vs HerO and equal woth Polt bomber and JD and equal or favoured to JD
JD fan here !
Is bashing scarlett some kind of "seeker signal" ? You want her to come here right ?
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On October 15 2014 23:38 Shellshock wrote:
So we don't actually know who is casting for Blizzcon yet? I assume it'll probably just be the WCS AM guys for the Ro16 since it's at their studio right?
I imagine it'll be a combination of all the ESL casters since it's an ESL studio. Maybe NA casters one day EU the next. Then all bets are off for top 8. Artosis will probably be too busy casting Hearthstone to come though
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