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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 07 2006 10:39 GMT
#541
882 deserves to get flamed because instead of saying "Some random black dude" or "some random african immigrant" he chose to use the racist and derogatory term "nigger" which goes completely against the (Seemingly) forgotten commandments of this very forum

8882 grow the fuck up. This is a forum for kidding around and being immature at times, but if your going to be some random racist, leave.
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
August 07 2006 11:36 GMT
#542
8882 is pretty stupid and imo should be banned, if nothing else to make an example that we arent gonna let it slide just because he has thousands of posts. I feel uncomfortable just being on the same forum as someone who practices such ignorance.
Broom
bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
August 07 2006 11:55 GMT
#543
On August 07 2006 18:17 Luhh wrote:
No need to flame 8882 really. In fact, if you ask a first generation or second generation immigrant wether they feel completely assimilated, just like the stereotype citizen of that particular nation, I'm sure nearly all of them would say - nah. The feeling is often that they are both nationalities or neither. That is what my friends think and feel on the matter that aren't "completely swedish" in lack of a better term.

Another normal and common reaction is that immigrants and minorities often become rather patriotic to their parents nation or their ancestors heritage and take some sort of pride in their difference. I can't really say if it's true pride or a reaction to their own difference compared to the stereotype citizens.

My personal take on things? If you are an:
- immigrant you are a citizen of that nation after a certain time, but I wouldn't go as far as to call an immigrant swedish normally.
- generation immigrant, then I would consider that person a swede if that person himself considers himself a swede and masters the language, ie not the familys language mother tongue. If that person would still have a strong accent and raised with different cultural values, then I would probably consider that person just as he is, a generation immigrant rather than a swede.

See, nothing rascist about that. Just common sense. Also, while looks may have an impact on how others perceive them, I prefer to go by how they perceive themselves. But in the end, I don't think anyone instinctively would consider an african generation immigrant a swede even if his swedish was perfect.

In history, what finally seems to determine these things is assimilation, in language, culture and looks. This happens over several generations, not just because your passport says so.

To me, that is just plain common sense. Not racism. The end.

Edit: Oh, and don't compare european countries with longer histories to the US, which is a new construct and a different kind of nation built on immigrants from varying nationalities, cultures and genepools from the get go and a very short history to boot.


Are you crazy? Not racism? He said that black people from Poland are just "random niggers." This is all rationalization of racist neo-nazi intolerance... He is using racial signifiers, not national ones (ie. "no blacks can be polish" etc.). Let's just be clear: the discussion is NOT over, and you have not conclusively shown anything to dissuade anyone from acknowledging racist statements.
bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
August 07 2006 11:57 GMT
#544
On August 07 2006 17:02 Ilvy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2006 16:25 8882 wrote:
he is not polish. he has polish citizenship.
I speak german, does it make me german? lol

and if someone was black and played for korean football team, would it make him korean?
no you dumbass, he would still be black

some random nigger from africa got the citizenshp too and played for our football team, but he still is a random nigger and definitely not polish


a polish person is someone whose parents are polish


your parents didn´t teach you how to talk about other ppl, you shouldnt have any cititzenship than i guess since there isn´t a "nation of faggots" made yet.



I feel just as much frustration about this as you do, but let's try to avoid shifting from one form of bigotry to another.
bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
August 07 2006 11:58 GMT
#545
On August 07 2006 16:25 8882 wrote:
he is not polish. he has polish citizenship.
I speak german, does it make me german? lol

and if someone was black and played for korean football team, would it make him korean?
no you dumbass, he would still be black

some random nigger from africa got the citizenshp too and played for our football team, but he still is a random nigger and definitely not polish


a polish person is someone whose parents are polish


you sir, are disgusting. I feel sorry for you.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
August 07 2006 12:15 GMT
#546
He un-necessarily threw nigger into his argument when he could've just as easily said "a black man" in his example.

wow you kids are idiots lol.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1857 Posts
August 07 2006 12:47 GMT
#547
On August 07 2006 16:25 8882 wrote:
he is not polish. he has polish citizenship.
I speak german, does it make me german? lol

and if someone was black and played for korean football team, would it make him korean?
no you dumbass, he would still be black

some random nigger from africa got the citizenshp too and played for our football team, but he still is a random nigger and definitely not polish


a polish person is someone whose parents are polish


wow O_O
dream-_-
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1857 Posts
August 07 2006 12:55 GMT
#548
After reading a few of the various posts regarding his post, let me point something out. The hate is just oozing out of every inch of his post. Its disgusting that someone would have so much hate for someone without knowing them simply because of their skin.

The fact is that if you grow up in poland, you will feel polish, have polish traits, and feel at home much more than suncow would in saudia arabia or wherever he is originaly from. Thus the term 'african american' is more acceptable than african or nigger as you so kindly decided to blurt out. I have no problem with people using the word nigger, but when it becomes a word of hate as it has in this instance, then it is not acceptable.
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-07 13:10:20
August 07 2006 13:08 GMT
#549
On August 07 2006 20:57 bine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2006 17:02 Ilvy wrote:
your parents didn´t teach you how to talk about other ppl, you shouldnt have any cititzenship than i guess since there isn´t a "nation of faggots" made yet.

I feel just as much frustration about this as you do, but let's try to avoid shifting from one form of bigotry to another.

yes. i agree. glad i'm not the only one. ageism also big on these forums. ageism and homophobia that is, and big as in popular.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
August 07 2006 13:45 GMT
#550
That was really poor. I'm black and it kinda hurts too know that 8822 would make such a racist statement on tl.net. That statement was really uncalled for and deserves a ban.
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
WOstick
Profile Joined June 2005
Norway433 Posts
August 07 2006 13:50 GMT
#551
On August 07 2006 16:25 8882 wrote:
he is not polish. he has polish citizenship.
I speak german, does it make me german? lol

and if someone was black and played for korean football team, would it make him korean?
no you dumbass, he would still be black

some random nigger from africa got the citizenshp too and played for our football team, but he still is a random nigger and definitely not polish


a polish person is someone whose parents are polish


fucking asshole
Are you suggestion that a cocunut is migrating?
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 07 2006 14:32 GMT
#552
i'm black too
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
August 07 2006 15:22 GMT
#553
Ban him and give me updates on draco pls, we know 8882 is not the smartest guy, but we still dont know anything about draco's team;
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27143 Posts
August 07 2006 15:25 GMT
#554
I know everything about Draco's team.
ModeratorGodfather
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 07 2006 15:48 GMT
#555
Me too.
why so 진지해?
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-07 16:11:48
August 07 2006 16:09 GMT
#556
edit : nvm;
amoxicilline
Profile Joined August 2005
France1124 Posts
August 07 2006 16:20 GMT
#557
tell us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3683 Posts
August 07 2006 17:09 GMT
#558
On August 07 2006 22:50 WOstick wrote:
fucking asshole

8882 is a _fucking asshole_ because of his opinion (which I share) ? Please grow up and improve your insults.
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
August 07 2006 17:14 GMT
#559
Polish people must learn that this forum is much more stricted than i.e netwars.pl .. You must think about every one word you gonna write :s
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 07 2006 18:51 GMT
#560
On August 08 2006 02:09 superjoppe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2006 22:50 WOstick wrote:
fucking asshole

8882 is a _fucking asshole_ because of his opinion (which I share) ? Please grow up and improve your insults.

Joppe, unless you're a neo-nazi you DON'T. No, I'm not basing this on this post alone - 8882 is just very racist and likes germans so..
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