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[MSL] Avalon MSL Semi-Final A - Jaedong vs Calm - Page 8

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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
August 13 2009 10:05 GMT
#141
On August 13 2009 19:03 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 19:02 Shikyo wrote:
On August 13 2009 19:00 FireGuyX wrote:
Calm had the game when his first offense was at Jaedong's natural, but instead split his units to attack both the expansion and the natural, dumb mistake that was.

So he split his forces to attack both the natural and the natural?


oops I meant his natural expansion and his natural base.

you need to get your terms right
POGGERS
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
August 13 2009 10:05 GMT
#142
Natural means natural expansion. Main means main base, the starting location.
日本語が分かりますか
MannerMan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
371 Posts
August 13 2009 10:05 GMT
#143
On August 13 2009 19:05 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 19:03 MannerMan wrote:
I love how the guy second guessing progamers doesn't even know what natural means...


Natural means their main base, and an expansion is an expansion right?

Wrong
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29906 Posts
August 13 2009 10:06 GMT
#144
On August 13 2009 19:02 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
i wonder why i can't connect to the livestream...

Connection problem and/or browser freezes?
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
August 13 2009 10:06 GMT
#145
On August 13 2009 19:02 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
i wonder why i can't connect to the livestream...


Me2..thats the first time like this happening.
And everything else seems fine,just the livestream...
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 13 2009 10:06 GMT
#146
On August 13 2009 19:05 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 19:03 MannerMan wrote:
I love how the guy second guessing progamers doesn't even know what natural means...


Natural means their main base, and an expansion is an expansion right?

Natural means their Natural expansion, main base = main
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 13 2009 10:06 GMT
#147
"The brain of Zerg"
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#1 olleh KT 팬 http://sports.kt.com/ | #1 김택용 선수 팬 | 좋은 선수: 송병구, 이제동, 도제욱, 정명훈, 이성은 | KeSPA 한국 e-Sports 협회
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 13 2009 10:06 GMT
#148
On August 13 2009 19:05 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 19:03 MannerMan wrote:
I love how the guy second guessing progamers doesn't even know what natural means...


Natural means their main base and an expansion is an expansion right?


Swing and a miss.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
August 13 2009 10:06 GMT
#149
"the brain of zerg" too bad brain is not that important in zvz like flawless muta micro
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
August 13 2009 10:06 GMT
#150
--- Nuked ---
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 13 2009 10:07 GMT
#151
They probably mean the overmind. BUT IM NO EXPERT.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 13 2009 10:07 GMT
#152
Jaedong red again lol.
Brood War loyalist
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
August 13 2009 10:07 GMT
#153
Ok nvm finally connected...weird.
Thannks kone nee-san
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
August 13 2009 10:07 GMT
#154
On August 13 2009 19:01 sAw wrote:
Guys if you are so smart and skilled, why don't you go to Korea and beat pros? Don't give tips to professional players, you suck at Starcraft and know nothing.

What do you recommend then? That we stop trying to identify what players did wrong? Just watch without wondering what the fuck is going on?

Are you able to beat every player in this thread right now who "suck at Starcraft and know nothing" in Bo5s then?
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
August 13 2009 10:08 GMT
#155
On August 13 2009 19:06 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 19:05 FireGuyX wrote:
On August 13 2009 19:03 MannerMan wrote:
I love how the guy second guessing progamers doesn't even know what natural means...


Natural means their main base, and an expansion is an expansion right?

Natural means their Natural expansion, main base = main



Okay I got it, sorry I'm new at this.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
August 13 2009 10:08 GMT
#156
here we go, calm with overpool, jd with 12pool
beep boop
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 10:09:28
August 13 2009 10:09 GMT
#157
Haha Jaedong 12pools again. He finally realized that if he 12pools every game in zvz he'd probably win.

Calm better 5pool next game.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
August 13 2009 10:09 GMT
#158
calm 9 pool speed JD 12 pool expo
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
sAw
Profile Joined November 2008
965 Posts
August 13 2009 10:09 GMT
#159
On August 13 2009 19:07 o3.power91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 19:01 sAw wrote:
Guys if you are so smart and skilled, why don't you go to Korea and beat pros? Don't give tips to professional players, you suck at Starcraft and know nothing.

What do you recommend then? That we stop trying to identify what players did wrong? Just watch without wondering what the fuck is going on?

Are you able to beat every player in this thread right now who "suck at Starcraft and know nothing" in Bo5s then?

I said that to those few guys which said "idiot should have done this/that".
Patrio
Profile Joined September 2007
Norway706 Posts
August 13 2009 10:09 GMT
#160
jds gonna 12pool ZvZ for the rest of his life... good desicion imo
Zerg Bunker
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